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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 8, 2024 18:27:35 GMT
I think there is a disconnect between the Tory membership and the general public. That showed over the last couple of years.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 8, 2024 18:43:48 GMT
I think there is a disconnect between the Tory membership and the general public. That showed over the last couple of years. Tory membership or Tory politicians? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 8, 2024 18:45:35 GMT
Tory membership.
Although there is also a disconnect between the Tory parliamentary party and the Tory party membership too.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 8, 2024 18:48:23 GMT
Tory membership. Although there is also a disconnect between the Tory parliamentary party and the Tory party membership too. So how exactly is the Tory party membership disconnected to the general public ? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2024 19:08:30 GMT
I think there is a disconnect between the Tory membership and the general public. That showed over the last couple of years. Tory membership or Tory politicians? Tory membership voted for Liz Truss. When she resigned, Rishi got elected as leader without a vote. You'd wonder how that could happen. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 8, 2024 19:11:51 GMT
Tory membership. Although there is also a disconnect between the Tory parliamentary party and the Tory party membership too. So how exactly is the Tory party membership disconnected to the general public ? The general public would not have voted for Liz Truss. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 8, 2024 19:18:56 GMT
So how exactly is the Tory party membership disconnected to the general public ? The general public would not have voted for Liz Truss. How do you know that given the same choices that the Tory party membership were given , the general public would not have supported Truss ? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 8, 2024 19:25:00 GMT
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 8, 2024 19:31:51 GMT
Interesting poll 23% of the general public expressed a preference for Sunak But 27% said ‘none of the above’ |
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Post by Orac on Feb 8, 2024 19:32:05 GMT
That poll would include people who wouldn't vote Conservative.
Which reminds me - it's surprising how much interest there is on this issue from people who aren't conservatives and would rather conservatism failed.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 8, 2024 19:36:15 GMT
That pol would include people who wouldn't vote Conservative. Which reminds me - it's surprising how much interest there is on this issue from people who aren't conservatives and would rather conservatism failed. Indeed. It reminds me of the polls that show a majority would vote to rejoin the EU but do not include the new terms to rejoin . |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2024 22:13:13 GMT
All I will say in response to that is that if you think my beliefs make me an idiot, they are shared by many economists who know far more about economics than either of us, not to mention much of the media commentariat. And have the virtue of not being dependent upon belief in a conspiracy theory, which is always a red flag unless there is evidence to support the existence of such a conspiracy. It doesn't matter how many paid liars are persuaded to fall in line, the notion is still idiotic on a basic level. I'm reminded of the recent expert assertion that the Covid 19 could not possibly have leaked from a Lab. Many fell for that because the lacked the basic tools to be able to see it was idiotic. To give an idea of the moribund and corrupt state 'economics' is in, economic theory that has been rigorously shown to be faulty is still preferred because it serves political interests. Your interests in this matter are broader than the Labour party and stretch to maintaining the public sector soviet in its current position - hence, anyone playing with tax cuts gives you the willies. For someone trying to close off the conversation, you seem to be adding quite a few paragraphs btw.Could say the same about you. Lol. You talk of a "public sector soviet" whilst trying to claim you are the only one grounded in reality. Laughable really. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2024 22:15:50 GMT
That poll would include people who wouldn't vote Conservative. Which reminds me - it's surprising how much interest there is on this issue from people who aren't conservatives and would rather conservatism failed. Sometime when you are observing from outside the maelstrom, with very little vested interest in it, you have a far better perspective on what is really happening. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 8, 2024 22:35:04 GMT
I think there is a disconnect between the Tory membership and the general public. That showed over the last couple of years. in what way? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 9, 2024 7:08:51 GMT
I think there is a disconnect between the Tory membership and the general public. That showed over the last couple of years. in what way? As I said above they wouldn't have voted for Liz Truss. |
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