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Post by Steve on Feb 8, 2024 20:08:40 GMT
Use that if you want. Why is it immoral for a singer to express their political views. Because it's using your singing fame / popularity to advertise and promote your side in a dispute. Except you've failed abysmally to show the lady in question did any such thing
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Post by Orac on Feb 8, 2024 20:11:17 GMT
Because it's using your singing fame / popularity to advertise and promote your side in a dispute. Except you've failed abysmally to show the lady in question did any such thing You are missing bits of the argument - which, being a generalisation or loose hypothetical, doesn't need a specific example.
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Post by Tinculin on Feb 9, 2024 11:22:23 GMT
Exactly, her work is not aimed at any political movement and certainly not at old fogies like wot I am but even I can see it's a very good body of work. I wonder how John would react if some shit ran a website showing his travels in detail. It is stalking but that said she has been very naïve using a personalised registration that was a big giveaway. But seems she's sold it now so the problem is not that the data is in the public domain, but that HER data is … I’m not sure how anyone could LEGALLY obtain details of my movements. I know where i could get them, and how, but the intrusion would be logged. And i’ve already planned how to travel by private jets hired from other people when i win the euro millions. Well, I checked on flightradar and i can't see her plane, it's removed from public view, but generally you can track any flight taking place in the world on sites like that by just putting in the planes ID. I'd imagine there is some process to remove a plane from public view.
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 9, 2024 12:03:35 GMT
so the problem is not that the data is in the public domain, but that HER data is … I’m not sure how anyone could LEGALLY obtain details of my movements. I know where i could get them, and how, but the intrusion would be logged. And i’ve already planned how to travel by private jets hired from other people when i win the euro millions. Well, I checked on flightradar and i can't see her plane, it's removed from public view, but generally you can track any flight taking place in the world on sites like that by just putting in the planes ID. I'd imagine there is some process to remove a plane from public view. that's very interesting. as you say i imagine there is a way to remove a plane from public view. as i no longer work for the UK CAA IT Team and have not yet won the lottery (when i DO, I am going to buy G-RTFM (look it up !!!)) i do not know how one might do this I wonder if her "removing the plane from public view" was done as a result of this case, if so she has, in my view, no case to whinge about she should have known and taken steps earlier.
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Post by Tinculin on Feb 9, 2024 12:31:50 GMT
I imagine so, but i've no idea whether Sweeney was using sites like this (and therefore no longer can track her), or whether he's using something else.
In any case, this isn't the first time he's fallen foul of celebrities - Musk banned him from Twitter for posting his 'assassination coordinates', and kinda posting the location of celebrities is kinda weird....
I guess we don't know what the threat to sue was - usually lawyers send a 'Cease and desist' order to try and push people to stop, corporations do it all the time over brand infractions etc, it's possible it was nothing more than that?
Swift isn't one to avoid protecting herself, she sued someone for 1$, after he grabbed her ass, not to financially ruin him (which she probably could have done), but just to make a point - and tbh, in that case, she was completely justified.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2024 20:22:02 GMT
so the problem is not that the data is in the public domain, but that HER data is … I’m not sure how anyone could LEGALLY obtain details of my movements. I know where i could get them, and how, but the intrusion would be logged. And i’ve already planned how to travel by private jets hired from other people when i win the euro millions. Well, I checked on flightradar and i can't see her plane, it's removed from public view, but generally you can track any flight taking place in the world on sites like that by just putting in the planes ID. I'd imagine there is some process to remove a plane from public view. I could see it on 7th Feb when I posted, with recent flight details, but they have all been removed. I take it money talks.
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Post by buccaneer on Feb 10, 2024 4:44:38 GMT
Is it not legitimate for anyone including celebrities to campaign for society as a whole to behave in different ways even if their career does not allow them to practice what they preach? I suspect many people don't heed, or care what a hypocrite is trying to preach to them. 'Do as I say not as I do' isn't usually best practise when trying to convince people about what to do.
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