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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 9, 2024 17:50:03 GMT
What austerity? Tax & spend, tax & spend. The Tories are the same as Labour. And if Flip-Flop wins, no one will be able to tell the difference.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 9, 2024 17:55:21 GMT
That was some austerity ... No one claimed austerity was successful. perhaps because it was never tried.. ..bit like controlling the borders..
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Post by see2 on Feb 9, 2024 18:25:40 GMT
What austerity? Tax & spend, tax & spend. The Tories are the same as Labour. And if Flip-Flop wins, no one will be able to tell the difference. You are good at posting nonsense so that you can denigrate the reality, still I suppose its good to let it all out in a post, it probably, not necessarily, helps to ease the lives of those around you.
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Post by see2 on Feb 9, 2024 18:35:43 GMT
No one claimed austerity was successful. perhaps because it was never tried.. ..bit like controlling the borders.. You know that austerity was a reality. It was discussed at the G20 in 2009, was acknowledged by the EU to include cuts and growth side by side in 2012, then the Tories bragged that it ended in 2019. The private sector had its own austerity program in lower wages which is why the government took a hard line on wage increases for government workers like the nurses.
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Post by zanygame on Feb 9, 2024 18:36:47 GMT
What austerity? Tax & spend, tax & spend. The Tories are the same as Labour. And if Flip-Flop wins, no one will be able to tell the difference. Tory tax increases needed to reflect the reduction in tax take caused by a shrinking economy. There are many articles citing how after a recession governments drive growth, not cut back. The Tories have given good evidence of this idea.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 9, 2024 18:41:30 GMT
perhaps because it was never tried.. ..bit like controlling the borders.. You know that austerity was a reality. It was discussed at the G20 in 2009, was acknowledged by the EU to include cuts and growth side by side in 2012, then the Tories bragged that it ended in 2019. The private sector had its own austerity program in lower wages which is why the government took a hard line on wage increases for government workers like the nurses. Spending (fueled by borrowing) went up - the complete opposite of austerity.. Just because spending did not rise as fast as you might have wished that does not make it austerity.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 9, 2024 18:43:19 GMT
What austerity? Tax & spend, tax & spend. The Tories are the same as Labour. And if Flip-Flop wins, no one will be able to tell the difference. Tory tax increases needed to reflect the reduction in tax take caused by a shrinking economy. There are many articles citing how after a recession governments drive growth, not cut back. The Tories have given good evidence of this idea. GDP grew every year between 2010 and 2020..
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Post by zanygame on Feb 9, 2024 18:55:01 GMT
Tory tax increases needed to reflect the reduction in tax take caused by a shrinking economy. There are many articles citing how after a recession governments drive growth, not cut back. The Tories have given good evidence of this idea. GDP grew every year between 2010 and 2020.. Only by increasing the population by millions. And I thought you didn't like GDP as a measure.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 9, 2024 18:57:21 GMT
What is the public spending rate in the UK since 2010? Then the financial crisis of 2008 took over and boosted public spending to 45.47 percent of GDP in 2010. Public spending steadied at about 40 percent GDP in the late 2010s, before exceeding 50 percent GDP in the COVID year of 2021. www.ukpublicspending.co.uk › ... Charts of Recent Spending - UkPublicSpending.co.uk
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 9, 2024 19:11:38 GMT
Rishi Sunak criticises local authorities for requesting steep council tax rises Criticism comes as councils struggle to cope with shortfalls that have left several on brink of bankruptcy
Councils in England are facing a widespread funding crisis after seeing their grant funding from central government fall by 40% from 2010 to 2020. Eight English councils, including Birmingham, Nottingham and Croydon, have issued so-called section 114 notices in recent years, in effect declaring themselves bankrupt.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 9, 2024 20:01:20 GMT
GDP grew every year between 2010 and 2020.. Only by increasing the population by millions. And I thought you didn't like GDP as a measure. So you're against immigration?
Who knew?
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Post by zanygame on Feb 9, 2024 20:05:54 GMT
Only by increasing the population by millions. And I thought you didn't like GDP as a measure. So you're against immigration?
Who knew?
You would if you took your head out your arse.
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Post by see2 on Feb 9, 2024 20:15:41 GMT
You know that austerity was a reality. It was discussed at the G20 in 2009, was acknowledged by the EU to include cuts and growth side by side in 2012, then the Tories bragged that it ended in 2019. The private sector had its own austerity program in lower wages which is why the government took a hard line on wage increases for government workers like the nurses. Spending (fueled by borrowing) went up - the complete opposite of austerity.. Just because spending did not rise as fast as you might have wished that does not make it austerity. Obviously government spending would have been far worse but for austerity. Obvious because austerity was very real in terms of money in pockets with a 2% increase in VAT being an unarguable fact of part of austerity.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 9, 2024 20:53:55 GMT
Only by increasing the population by millions. And I thought you didn't like GDP as a measure. So you're against immigration?
Who knew?
Oh the irony Zany I's against immigration like you Are you saying them that are against immigration don't tell the truth?
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 9, 2024 20:56:52 GMT
So you're against immigration?
Who knew?
Oh the irony Zany I's against immigration like you Are you saying them that are against immigration don't tell the truth? Buy Zany dosent blame all the Country problems on immigrants
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