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Post by Totheleft on Feb 5, 2024 9:11:59 GMT
From. Glasgow university.
Over 300,000 ‘excess’ deaths in Great Britain attributed to UK Government austerity policies Recent evidence has shown people across the UK are dying younger as a result of austerity, with people living in the poorest areas hardest hit. A new study published today now quantifies the scale of these deaths.
The study, led by the Glasgow Centre for Population Health (GCPH) and the University of Glasgow, and published in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, reports that compared to what previous trends predicted, an additional 335,000 deaths were observed across Scotland, England & Wales between 2012 and 2019.
Statistical analyses demonstrate that previously improving mortality trends changed around 2011-2013 in both Scotland and England (following the implementation of austerity policies in 2010).
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 5, 2024 12:19:00 GMT
What austerity?
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 5, 2024 13:17:07 GMT
From. Glasgow university. Over 300,000 ‘excess’ deaths in Great Britain attributed to UK Government austerity policies Recent evidence has shown people across the UK are dying younger as a result of austerity, with people living in the poorest areas hardest hit. A new study published today now quantifies the scale of these deaths. The study, led by the Glasgow Centre for Population Health (GCPH) and the University of Glasgow, and published in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, reports that compared to what previous trends predicted, an additional 335,000 deaths were observed across Scotland, England & Wales between 2012 and 2019. Statistical analyses demonstrate that previously improving mortality trends changed around 2011-2013 in both Scotland and England (following the implementation of austerity policies in 2010). Let's see Official. GOVERNMENT SITE Punlic sector pay and pensions 2.18 A two year pay freeze will be introduced from 2011-12 for public sector workforces, except for those earning £21,000 or less, who will receive an increase of at least £250 a year. This will save £3.3 billion a year by 2014-15. 2.19 Pay will also be frozen in 2010-11 for civil servants who are yet to agree a legally binding pay deal, except for those earning £21,000 or less, who will receive at least £250 a year. These civil servants will then exit the freeze ahead of other group Big issue published Metropolitan districts – primarily local authorities in cities – and London local authorities have seen the biggest reductions in spending power since 2010 because government grants made up a larger share of their funding. They have also had to deal with rising demand for social care, which they must provide and therefore makes up more and more of their spending. Education Between 2010 and 2019, total public spending on education across the UK fell by £10bn, or 8 per cent in real terms, according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies. The IFS also found deprived schools have seen larger cuts. It found the most deprived secondary schools saw a 14 per cent real-terms fall in spending per pupil between 2009/10 and 2019/20, compared with a 9 per cent drop for the least deprived schools. Homelessness Homelessness services are largely funded by councils. Homeless Link says that funding restraints have contributed to 39 per cent fewer accommodation providers and 26 per cent fewer bed spaces for people experiencing homelessness than in 2010. NHS Data from The King’s Fund shows the Department for Health and Social Care budget increased annually between 2009/10 and 2018/19, from £116.8bn to £132.9bn in real terms by 2019/20 prices. The reason the NHS is struggling is because its funding growth has slowed. A lot. In its first 70 years, the NHS’s average annual budget rise was 3.7 per cent. Between 2009/10 and 2018/19 it was just 1.5 per cent. Ahead of his Autumn Statement, Hunt acknowledged “massive pressures in the NHS” but said it received a lot of money, adding: “We need to do everything we can to find efficiencies.” Social care As council budgets were gutted, spending on social care bore the brunt. Between 2009/10 and 2017/18, average per-person spending on social care for the over 65s fell by 31 per cent, according to the IFS. These cuts went hand-in-hand with a reduction in the number of people receiving government-funded social care. Age UK says since 2010 the state has cut its spending on adult social care by £86m, despite a rapidly increasing demand because of the ageing population. Big Issue he new analysis highlights that for eight of the ten benefit level changes between 2013 and 2022, the basic rate of unemployment benefits has lost value, leaving it at a 35-year low in real terms. From 2013-2019, ministers chose to reduce benefits in real terms by freezing their value or increasing them by a lower rate than inflation (at the same time as introducing other cuts). While there is historical precedent for benefit levels not keeping pace with real inflation due to volatility in inflation, this tends to cancel out over time. However this year marks the first time that benefit levels will fall significantly in real terms due to this volatility following a sustained period of loss in
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Post by dodgydave on Feb 5, 2024 14:01:36 GMT
You talk about Austerity as if there was a choice. We had a trillion pound debt after the Financial Crisis, and the EU mandated austerity for the all counties effected. You can argue whether we came out of it quick enough, but there was no option but to have it. We had literally just started to pay some of the debt off when Covid hit... now we are completely screwed.
When Labour come into power do you think they are magically going to make the debt and interest disappear?
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Post by steppenwolf on Feb 5, 2024 14:08:10 GMT
Actually there was NO such thing as austerity because govt spending continued to rise overall throughout the period that Cameron and Osborne talked about austerity. They just had to talk about austerity to calm the markets. In fact the funding of the NHS continued to rise above inflation throughout austerity. The police budget git cut but that was their fault - they fiddled the crime figures so much that they got their staff numbers cut. Serves 'em right.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 5, 2024 14:36:53 GMT
You talk about Austerity as if there was a choice. We had a trillion pound debt after the Financial Crisis, and the EU mandated austerity for the all counties effected. You can argue whether we came out of it quick enough, but there was no option but to have it. We had literally just started to pay some of the debt off when Covid hit... now we are completely screwed. When Labour come into power do you think they are magically going to make the debt and interest disappear? No I don't think they will just pull money out of the hat . And think after the mess the Economy in now they might have to have austerity measures . Has for Blaming the EU I've answered that Else where in this Country we had austerity Measures. And if it was imposed by the EU have you seen how well Greece .Italy .both countery under Threat of Bankruptcy. Plus Ireland and Portugal. All have Come out laughing the other side of austerity except us Has for Covid typical Rory excuse are we the only country to Suffer from. It ? Post hight of the pandemic we were the laughing stock. Of the G7 and EU because are Growth was so bad the worst of the lot. It's started to pick up now but still well below where we Should be . No Covid I's no.excuse. The only main benefactor what dosent effect others is Brexit. Has for a trillion depth labour left after a world wide Recession . Have you seen the size of it now it's quadrupled. No Fella this Government has made a right pigs ear of it. Good Has for Covid The UK had the worse death rate in Europe. This Government is incompetent the quicker we get rid the Better.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 5, 2024 14:45:53 GMT
Actually there was NO such thing as austerity because govt spending continued to rise overall throughout the period that Cameron and Osborne talked about austerity. They just had to talk about austerity to calm the markets. In fact the funding of the NHS continued to rise above inflation throughout austerity. The police budget git cut but that was their fault - they fiddled the crime figures so much that they got their staff numbers cut. Serves 'em right. Have you read what kings trust said about the Funding the NHS got. What you mean have you seen the mess local Councils are in including Tory Lids has well has labour. They all say it's down to the cut I'n Government funding . And need i mention Social care
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 5, 2024 14:49:08 GMT
If we never have a Labour government then we will never have austerity cuts, when they bankrupt the country someone has to pick up the pieces of their mess...and that 'someone' is ..... us the tax payers.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 5, 2024 15:05:47 GMT
Actually there was NO such thing as austerity because govt spending continued to rise overall throughout the period that Cameron and Osborne talked about austerity. They just had to talk about austerity to calm the markets. In fact the funding of the NHS continued to rise above inflation throughout austerity. The police budget git cut but that was their fault - they fiddled the crime figures so much that they got their staff numbers cut. Serves 'em right. And of course we have record high taxation and that money's getting spent all over.
Austerity? LOL!
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 5, 2024 15:11:12 GMT
If we never have a Labour government then we will never have austerity cuts, when they bankrupt the country someone has to pick up the pieces of their mess...and that 'someone' is ..... us the tax payers. Who do you think is going to pick up.the Shambles this Government made.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 5, 2024 15:18:05 GMT
Actually there was NO such thing as austerity because govt spending continued to rise overall throughout the period that Cameron and Osborne talked about austerity. They just had to talk about austerity to calm the markets. In fact the funding of the NHS continued to rise above inflation throughout austerity. The police budget git cut but that was their fault - they fiddled the crime figures so much that they got their staff numbers cut. Serves 'em right. And of course we have record high taxation and that money's getting spent all over.
Austerity? LOL! You do know know we have high Taxation..don't you . It's not because we spent so much have you read. My reply or ignored it because it proved you wrong once again. I suggest you read it and reply to that . But if we think there was no Austerity measures the labour didn't leave the country in dept thanks for clearing that up.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 5, 2024 15:35:14 GMT
You talk about Austerity as if there was a choice. We had a trillion pound debt after the Financial Crisis, and the EU mandated austerity for the all counties effected. You can argue whether we came out of it quick enough, but there was no option but to have it. We had literally just started to pay some of the debt off when Covid hit... now we are completely screwed. When Labour come into power do you think they are magically going to make the debt and interest disappear? Right, well the trick there is to borrow at one rate and invest in a thing that gives you a higher rate of return than what you pay to borrow the money. This investment can be made in both the private sector or the public sector. Lets say you invest an additional million pounds in the NHS, then that will go on fixing more people, so you look at what monitory effects this has. It might be they can get back to work, so your payback on your million quid is the overall difference in productivity between the two scenarios plus the subjective benefits to those who received the additional treatment. What you tend to get with investment is the law of diminishing returns, so your first million of additional funding will go to the people where the investment payback is highest, and then your next million is to those who are in the next highest category and so on until you are literally throwing money away, as per it works perfectly and does not need improving. The other tactic one should employ with investments is to diversify them. Each one comes with a certain risk, but with a diverse portfolio any big unpredicted change in the market might knock some investments out, but at the same time strengthen others, e.g. if you invested in an umbrella manufacturer and a sunglasses manufacturer, the two null each other out regarding the weather.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 5, 2024 15:50:28 GMT
Actually there was NO such thing as austerity because govt spending continued to rise overall throughout the period that Cameron and Osborne talked about austerity. They just had to talk about austerity to calm the markets. In fact the funding of the NHS continued to rise above inflation throughout austerity. The police budget git cut but that was their fault - they fiddled the crime figures so much that they got their staff numbers cut. Serves 'em right. Correct - the problem was not a reduction in spending on public services (there was none) but the total collapse in productivity since 1997. Unfortunately I don't see any major party having any policies to reverse this decline.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 5, 2024 15:59:52 GMT
Actually there was NO such thing as austerity because govt spending continued to rise overall throughout the period that Cameron and Osborne talked about austerity. They just had to talk about austerity to calm the markets. In fact the funding of the NHS continued to rise above inflation throughout austerity. The police budget git cut but that was their fault - they fiddled the crime figures so much that they got their staff numbers cut. Serves 'em right. Correct - the problem was not a reduction in spending on public services (there was none) but the total collapse in productivity since 1997. Unfortunately I don't see any major party having any policies to reverse this decline. Was there a pay freeze on public serves workers. Yes or no.will do.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 5, 2024 16:30:18 GMT
No idea - NHS pay has risen each each year. What public service workers do you have in mind?
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