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Post by Totheleft on Feb 4, 2024 21:25:53 GMT
Yes I know she was and Mayor picked up the Mantel after her . But no agreement until.Blair. Not sure how long the peace talks was over the Tory yrs. What I think.tells a story about how important to realise of Terrorist was to the GFA. Tony Blair signed the dotted line has they say . So what do you think she was offering instead? 🤔 A unconditional peace agreement with the withdrawal of Troops. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 4, 2024 22:08:07 GMT
So what do you think she was offering instead? 🤔 A unconditional peace agreement with the withdrawal of Troops. That's naive. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 5, 2024 0:05:23 GMT
A unconditional peace agreement with the withdrawal of Troops. That's naive. Why is it i think it's rather naive to think 2 Tory was in anyway near getting A peace argument in NI . What also had to. Have the backingr.of Eire |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2024 6:13:48 GMT
Rebel Labour MPs Face Final Warning Over Breaking Ranks With Party Line Rebel Labour MPs who vote against the whip or make controversial statements that break with the party's line are heading towards a final warning that breaches now may not be forgiven ahead of the election as patience wears thin in the whips' office. In recent years Labour MPs have lost the whip on a number of occasions as the party pivoted towards taking an increasingly tougher line on discipline under Keir Starmer's leadership. Labour MP Rupa Huq had the whip removed in October 2022 after calling then-chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng "superficially black" during a conference fringe event. Huq issued an apology, and five months later had the whip restored. However PoliticsHome understands that while previously an apology or period of reflection could result in the whip being reinstated, with the general election looming whip losses are now likely to be final and MPs who are suspended prevented from standing for Labour and new candidates will be selected instead. "The chief whip was annoyed that a lot of them voted with the SNP on Gaza, and he says he's at the end of his tether with a lot of them," a Labour source told PoliticsHome. www.politicshome.com/news/article/rebel-labour-mps-final-warning-patience-whips-office-wears-thinOf course if any member of a political party loses the support of the whip they should be Suspended and not stand again for the political party. In labours case it shows that Corbyn Supports are still Causing Division In the labour party . No wonder the Cheif Wip is losing his patience. Enough. I's enough if they Can't Support the official. Line of the party especially with a Election. Looming get rid. So elected representatives should do what they are told? Welcome to democracy, New Labour style. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 5, 2024 7:52:55 GMT
Why is it i think it's rather naive to think 2 Tory was in anyway near getting A peace argument in NI . What also had to. Have the backingr.of Eire Yes, of course, but what would have been in your proposal for the unionists? 🤔 |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 5, 2024 7:59:39 GMT
After the Division what corbyn and his Bunch caused last time yes .we need unity I'm sure you didn't feel so threat to Democomacy when Boris or thatcher got chucked out of Number 10?
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 5, 2024 8:02:06 GMT
Why is it i think it's rather naive to think 2 Tory was in anyway near getting A peace argument in NI . What also had to. Have the backingr.of Eire Yes, of course, but what would have been in your proposal for the unionists? 🤔 Same has the GFA why do you think I would of thought different. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 5, 2024 8:04:50 GMT
Because what you said that the Tories were negotiating and what the GFA is are not the same thing. The fact that you think that Labour significantly changed the deal is naive.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 5, 2024 8:17:02 GMT
Because what you said that the Tories were negotiating and what the GFA is are not the same thing. The fact that you think that Labour significantly changed the deal is naive. Of course it's not Naive the prove is in the pudding has they. Say Blair GFA obviously successEd. Like I said where the Torys didn't. It seems there something you.don't like about the GFA what is it. |
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Post by thomas on Feb 5, 2024 8:32:34 GMT
After the Division what corbyn and his Bunch caused last time yes .we need unity I'm sure you didn't feel so threat to Democomacy when Boris or thatcher got chucked out of Number 10? im not a labour supporter , but quite obviously the divisions In the Labour Party was caused by the blairites like starmer , his advisors like mandelson , stabbing Corbyn in the back and doing everything they could to stop him getting elected. what does this even mean? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 5, 2024 8:45:04 GMT
After the Division what corbyn and his Bunch caused last time yes .we need unity I'm sure you didn't feel so threat to Democomacy when Boris or thatcher got chucked out of Number 10? im onot a labour supporter , but quite obviously the divisions In the Labour Party was caused by the blairites like  starmer , his advisors like mandelson , stabbing Corbyn in the back and doing everything they could to stop him getting elected. what does this even mean? Sorry posted on the wrong thread. When you consider what damage the far left have caused to the labour party . No wonder a selection. Of the labour party won't to try and make sure they don't get elected. Look at the divison in the tory. Party now. No wonder some people are disillusioned with politics. |
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Post by thomas on Feb 5, 2024 8:52:51 GMT
im onot a labour supporter , but quite obviously the divisions In the Labour Party was caused by the blairites like starmer , his advisors like mandelson , stabbing Corbyn in the back and doing everything they could to stop him getting elected. what does this even mean? Sorry posted on the wrong thread. When you consider what damage the far left have caused to the labour party . No wonder a selection. Of the labour party won't to try and make sure they don't get elected. Look at the divison in the tory. Party now. No wonder some people are disillusioned with politics. so I take it you didnt vote Corbyns labour then? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 5, 2024 9:25:06 GMT
Sorry posted on the wrong thread. When you consider what damage the far left have caused to the labour party . No wonder a selection. Of the labour party won't to try and make sure they don't get elected. Look at the divison in the tory. Party now. No wonder some people are disillusioned with politics. so I take it you didnt vote Corbyns labour then? I was in two minds what to do . But yes I voted him because it's the only Alternative that Could possibly win against the Tory. How wrong I was seeing my Area was one of the red wall area that turned Tory.. That tells a story in its self . |
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Post by thomas on Feb 6, 2024 8:22:06 GMT
so I take it you didnt vote Corbyns labour then? I was in two minds what to do . But yes I voted him because it's the only Alternative that Could possibly win against the Tory. How wrong I was seeing my Area was one of the red wall area that turned Tory.. That tells a story in its self . so you voted for a man you consistently slag off ? I think you run with the hares and chase with the hounds lefty. absolute nonsense. Across the uk , there are the snp in scotland who are challenging the tories in their current seats , not labour , and in England , the liberals are challenging the tories in many seats. We have been over this dead end trope of uk politics many times. They said the snp couldnt break the fptp system , the snp broke it. Ukip nearly managed to , and sent such as shiver up the tories spine Cameron offered them a Brexit referendum. You have to be in it to win it , and if people dont try , they will always be stuck with the dead hand of labour and tory . |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 6, 2024 9:07:18 GMT
I was in two minds what to do . But yes I voted him because it's the only Alternative that Could possibly win against the Tory. How wrong I was seeing my Area was one of the red wall area that turned Tory.. That tells a story in its self . so you voted for a man you consistently slag off ? I think you run with the hares and chase with the hounds lefty. absolute nonsense. Across the uk , there are the snp in scotland who are challenging the tories in their current seats , not labour , and in England , the liberals are challenging the tories in many seats. We have been over this dead end trope of uk politics many times.  They said the snp couldnt break the fptp system , the snp broke it. Ukip nearly managed to , and sent such as shiver up the tories spine Cameron offered them a Brexit referendum. You have to be in it to win it , and if people dont try , they will always be stuck with the dead hand of labour and tory . Do you know your geography I live in the Borough of Rochdale in England. Not for example Run down Glasgow in Scotland |
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