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Post by thomas on Feb 3, 2024 21:22:05 GMT
you can't scream about Jeremy Corbyn being friends with people you dont like , while ignoring Tony Blair actively letting terrorists off the hook. You totally ignore my post Sir Tony couldn't of done it with out the Main support of most of the Unionist party And the people Support . Like I said you have plenty of things In common with the right Wingers And your Android Socolist very Strange. Jeremy talked a good game , but never got further than the pub talking revolution with the brothers and sisters over a pint of shandy. Tony Blair went much further , and actually let terrorists off the hook. I mind seeing the look on the then non Irish first minister Peter Robinsons face when he learned of Tony Blair and new labours betrayal. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 3, 2024 21:34:01 GMT
You totally ignore my post Sir Tony couldn't of done it with out the Main support of most of the Unionist party And the people Support . Like I said you have plenty of things In common with the right Wingers And your Android Socolist very Strange. Jeremy talked a good game , but never got further than the pub talking revolution with the brothers and sisters over a pint of shandy. Tony Blair went much further , and actually let terrorists off the hook. I mind seeing the look on the then non Irish first minister Peter Robinsons face when he learned of Tony Blair and new labours betrayal. Escaped IRA terrorists handed Royal pardons as part of peace deal Queen had to sign off on mercy pardons that allowed convicted killers and fanatics to return to normal lives By Tom Whitehead and Tomwhitehead 27 February 2014 • 5:31pm Royal pardons, signed by the Queen, were granted to escaped IRA terrorists as part of the Northern Ireland peace deal Royal pardons, signed by the Queen, were granted to escaped IRA terrorists as part of the Northern Ireland peace deal, it has emerged... Let's stop this Right wing Nonesence |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 3, 2024 22:25:57 GMT
Didnt your mate Tony Blair as leader of the Labour Party pardon ira republican prisoners on the run from justice? Pot and kettle spring to mind. and also went to a Referendum in South and North Ireland and was voted on by a huge Majority on both Sides of the boarder . Thought you agreed with the Democratic Majority. Seems not Can you point to the specific part of the GFA than mandates pardons for on the run terrorists? The Belfast Agreement |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 3, 2024 22:32:56 GMT
Would that be a pardon that was part of the Good Friday agreement what most Unionists agreed to and also went to a Referendum in South and North Ireland and was voted on by a huge Majority on both Sides of the boarder . Thought you agreed with the Democratic Majority. Seems not Can you point to the specific part of the GFA than mandates pardons for on the run terrorists? The Belfast AgreementLook. At the post above. That what you posted Might be to. Long winded for Me to.take in . But I try later on.. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 3, 2024 22:38:50 GMT
Can you point to the specific part of the GFA than mandates pardons for on the run terrorists? The Belfast AgreementLook. At the post above. That what you posted Might be to. Long winded for Me to.take in . But I try later on.. Yes - but that has nothing to do with the question I asked. You claimed that on the run terrorists were entitled to pardons due to the GFA - which is incorrect. There is absolutely nothing in the GFA that mandates pardons for terrorists . The decision to pardon IRA terrorists was taken by the Labour Party unilaterally - there was no commitment for them to do it. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 3, 2024 23:47:31 GMT
Look. At the post above. That what you posted Might be to. Long winded for Me to.take in . But I try later on.. Yes - but that has nothing to do with the question I asked. You claimed that on the run terrorists were entitled to pardons due to the GFA - which is incorrect. There is absolutely nothing in the GFA that mandates pardons for terrorists . The decision to pardon IRA terrorists was taken by the Labour Party unilaterally - there was no commitment for them to do it. OK it was added after the GFA But it doesn't just pardon IRA terrorist but also loyalists Paramilitary and police and Soldiers. I know one was charged and Convicted lately but that was down to the Conservative government not following the letter of the Law. Dozens of IRA fugitives wanted in connection with crimes committed before the Good Friday agreement in 1998 will be able to go home without serving prison sentences under legislation introduced by the government yesterday. The republican "on-the-runs" will be eligible for the scheme, as will loyalists as well as soldiers and police officers accused of committing crimes while combating terrorism during the 30-year Troubles. |
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Post by thomas on Feb 4, 2024 9:30:42 GMT
Yes - but that has nothing to do with the question I asked. You claimed that on the run terrorists were entitled to pardons due to the GFA - which is incorrect. There is absolutely nothing in the GFA that mandates pardons for terrorists . The decision to pardon IRA terrorists was taken by the Labour Party unilaterally - there was no commitment for them to do it. OK it was added after the GFA But it doesn't just pardon IRA terrorist but also loyalists Paramilitary and police and Soldiers. I know one was charged and Convicted lately but that was down to the Conservative government not following the letter of the Law. Dozens of IRA fugitives wanted in connection with crimes committed before the Good Friday agreement in 1998 will be able to go home without serving prison sentences under legislation introduced by the government yesterday. The republican "on-the-runs" will be eligible for the scheme, as will loyalists as well as soldiers and police officers accused of committing crimes while combating terrorism during the 30-year Troubles. more waffling nonsense to deflect from Tony Blair and new labours heinous legacy . What is keir starmers position on northern ireland today lefty? Does keir and labour support handing Northern Ireland back to Dublin via a border poll now that there is a Sinn Fein first minister? Will we see a new labour sos for NI begin the border poll process? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 4, 2024 11:25:54 GMT
OK it was added after the GFA But it doesn't just pardon IRA terrorist but also loyalists Paramilitary and police and Soldiers. I know one was charged and Convicted lately but that was down to the Conservative government not following the letter of the Law. Dozens of IRA fugitives wanted in connection with crimes committed before the Good Friday agreement in 1998 will be able to go home without serving prison sentences under legislation introduced by the government yesterday. The republican "on-the-runs" will be eligible for the scheme, as will loyalists as well as soldiers and police officers accused of committing crimes while combating terrorism during the 30-year Troubles. more waffling nonsense to deflect from Tony Blair and new labours heinous legacy . What is keir starmers position on northern ireland today lefty? Does keir and labour support handing Northern Ireland back to Dublin via a border poll now that there is a Sinn Fein first minister? Will we see a new labour sos for NI begin the border poll process? What you on about you calling Blair a treater saying he pardoned the on the run. IRA Terroist . Do you feel the Same way about the Conservatives having a British Soilger lock up for killing a suspected IRA terrorist even thou that was against the law ? Or what about the large Marjority of Catholics that supported the IRA has your post with the Pro IRA on Mural on . I bet you don't |
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Post by thomas on Feb 4, 2024 11:30:34 GMT
more waffling nonsense to deflect from Tony Blair and new labours heinous legacy . What is keir starmers position on northern ireland today lefty? Does keir and labour support handing Northern Ireland back to Dublin via a border poll now that there is a Sinn Fein first minister? Will we see a new labour sos for NI begin the border poll process? What you on about you calling Blair a treater saying he pardoned the on the run. IRA Terroist . Do you feel the Same way about the Conservatives having a British Soilger lock up for killing a suspected IRA terrorist even thou that was against the law ? Or what about the large Marjority of Catholics that supported the IRA has your post with the Pro IRA on Mural on . I bet you don't when you say treater , do you mean traitor? Please can you quote me where I have said Blair is a traitor? The point is Tony Blair , as uk prime minister, is supposed to uphold the law , and make sure those who have done wrong are brought to justice. The majority catholics in Northern Ireland are opposed to British rule , and by de fault people like Tony Blair being their prime minister , so why is their support for the IRA a surprise to you , or in any way comparable to Tony Blair allowing terrorists on the run a pardon? What is keir starmers position on neither ireland today? Will a new labour government allow a border poll? |
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Post by witchfinder on Feb 4, 2024 12:17:58 GMT
The ending of most wars involves pardons, releasing prisoners, and drawing a line in the sand to enable peace. The pardons and release of prisoners on both sides of the divide in Northern Ireland brought about a dividend which was worth it.
It was the cost of ending the long conflict which killed more people than the 911 attacks in the United States, and it was the price of peace.
Insisting that no prisoners should be released on either side is an admission that there can be no solution to the long running conflict, it is to literally Give Up on bringing peace, which was possibly the greatest achievement of the Blair premiership.
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 4, 2024 14:58:13 GMT
Quite. Also the idea that the NI Good Friday Agreement was party political effort is false. John Major's government had done a lot of work towards it, and to be fair to Mrs T, groundwork began under her. This was actually a case of both parties working on this. Unfortunately that lesson wasn'tearned in regards to other projects, hence why we get such short term politics.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 4, 2024 15:06:03 GMT
Quite. Also the idea that the NI Good Friday Agreement was party political effort is false. John Major's government had done a lot of work towards it, and to be fair to Mrs T, groundwork began under her. This was actually a case of both parties working on this. Unfortunately that lesson wasn'tearned in regards to other projects, hence why we get such short term politics. I Don't think the Toris would never agreed to the Release of IRA Terrorist So Any piece Agreement would of never kicked off.i |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 4, 2024 15:14:12 GMT
Quite. Also the idea that the NI Good Friday Agreement was party political effort is false. John Major's government had done a lot of work towards it, and to be fair to Mrs T, groundwork began under her. This was actually a case of both parties working on this. Unfortunately that lesson wasn'tearned in regards to other projects, hence why we get such short term politics. I Don't think the Toris would never agreed to the Release of IRA Terrorist So Any piece Agreement would of never kicked off.i I think that you're wrong. Thatcher was talking to the IRA before she quit. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 4, 2024 15:22:12 GMT
I Don't think the Toris would never agreed to the Release of IRA Terrorist So Any piece Agreement would of never kicked off.i I think that you're wrong. Thatcher was talking to the IRA before she quit. Yes I know she was and Mayor picked up the Mantel after her . But no agreement until.Blair. Not sure how long the peace talks was over the Tory yrs. What I think.tells a story about how important to realise of Terrorist was to the GFA. Tony Blair signed the dotted line has they say . |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 4, 2024 21:05:21 GMT
I think that you're wrong. Thatcher was talking to the IRA before she quit. Yes I know she was and Mayor picked up the Mantel after her . But no agreement until.Blair. Not sure how long the peace talks was over the Tory yrs. What I think.tells a story about how important to realise of Terrorist was to the GFA. Tony Blair signed the dotted line has they say . So what do you think she was offering instead? 🤔 |
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