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Post by thomas on Jan 29, 2024 18:07:48 GMT
What transgender problems , and who said they are all down to lefties? We saw from the Scottish Parliament vote on the gender reform issue while labour were at the forefront of support for gender reform , some tories voted in support too. Doesn't penny Mordaunt , and formerly Theresa may , for example among English tories support gender reform policies in England along with keir starmer? Im not sure what your you gov poll is proving in relation to your claim , but the various polls dont show anything radical we didnt already know.
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Post by thomas on Jan 29, 2024 18:08:29 GMT
what happens when it affects other people? Rules that don't allow them to affect other people maybe necessary, but that shouldn't stop adults from following their beliefs about themselves in this area of sexual orientation. what rules? Please explain ?
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Post by see2 on Jan 29, 2024 18:12:56 GMT
Look at it from another angle, how many parents have disowned their grown up child who has changed gender, there are many parents who will not accept their daughter is now a boy or their son is now a girl, and I really feel sorry for them, they clearly haven't encouraged or supported them in to this decision. It tears families apart, and parents wonder where they went 'wrong', my guess would be 'peer pressure', in other words the left woke snowflakes are wanting them to join their 'cult'. It is the grey areas of sexual make up that is the problem. Unless an individual is one of the people born in the grey areas of the biological mix, they are not really in a position to make arrogant and absolute comments which appear to serve no other purpose than to make themselves feel better.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 29, 2024 18:16:42 GMT
Look at it from another angle, how many parents have disowned their grown up child who has changed gender, there are many parents who will not accept their daughter is now a boy or their son is now a girl, and I really feel sorry for them, they clearly haven't encouraged or supported them in to this decision. It tears families apart, and parents wonder where they went 'wrong', my guess would be 'peer pressure', in other words the left woke snowflakes are wanting them to join their 'cult'. It is the grey areas of sexual make up that is the problem. Unless an individual is one of the people born in the grey areas of the biological mix, they are not really in a position to make arrogant and absolute comments which appear to serve no other purpose than to make themselves feel better. Which includes you ?
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Post by see2 on Jan 29, 2024 18:22:05 GMT
What transgender problems , and who said they are all down to lefties? We saw from the Scottish Parliament vote on the gender reform issue while labour were at the forefront of support for gender reform , some tories voted in support too. Doesn't penny Mordaunt , and formerly Theresa may , for example among English tories support gender reform policies in England along with keir starmer? Im not sure what your you gov poll is proving in relation to your claim , but the various polls dont show anything radical we didnt already know. Read the posts on this thread, the use of the word Left or lefty is not uncommon. It doesn't take the brightest kid in the class to deduct that the outcome from the research shows the wide spread reactions to the Gender debate. I have zero respect for your debating skills, so I pay little heed to your knee jerk reaction to my post.
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Post by thomas on Jan 29, 2024 18:27:27 GMT
What transgender problems , and who said they are all down to lefties? We saw from the Scottish Parliament vote on the gender reform issue while labour were at the forefront of support for gender reform , some tories voted in support too. Doesn't penny Mordaunt , and formerly Theresa may , for example among English tories support gender reform policies in England along with keir starmer? Im not sure what your you gov poll is proving in relation to your claim , but the various polls dont show anything radical we didnt already know. Read the posts on this thread, the use of the word Left or lefty is not uncommon. It doesn't take the brightest kid in the class to deduct that the outcome from the research shows the wide spread reactions to the Gender debate. I have zero respect for your debating skills, so I pay little heed to your knee jerk reaction to my post. im not interested in how you view me or my debating skills. While you are on here, posting on the main boards , I will continue to treat you as fair game in the debating contest. Im not interested in people squealing lefty either , or those offended by being called lefty. you aren't left wing , supporting starmer. so why are you worried? Im still non the wiser what your poll has to do with your earlier statement. Gender reform isn't a lefty issue , and you aren't a lefty , but its certainly something keir starmers new labour support , so its natural having seen the mess the snp and labour among others made in scotland , the English on here are worried about starmer taking power and implementing gender reforms.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 29, 2024 18:37:47 GMT
Look at it from another angle, how many parents have disowned their grown up child who has changed gender, there are many parents who will not accept their daughter is now a boy or their son is now a girl, and I really feel sorry for them, they clearly haven't encouraged or supported them in to this decision. It tears families apart, and parents wonder where they went 'wrong', my guess would be 'peer pressure', in other words the left woke snowflakes are wanting them to join their 'cult'. It is the grey areas of sexual make up that is the problem. Unless an individual is one of the people born in the grey areas of the biological mix, they are not really in a position to make arrogant and absolute comments which appear to serve no other purpose than to make themselves feel better. bugger of see2 go and do something more productive with your time like Uncle Tom did, do a few laps of your care home with your Zimmer frame, and raise some cash for your good woke snowflake causes, we'll cheer you on ....... Go for it Uncle see2 ...
... anything to give us a break from him.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 29, 2024 18:44:12 GMT
One of the most common things not discussed with transgender people is trans regret. It can lead to suicide.
But, discussion of a problem which can cause suicide, is now "transphobic". How absurd is that?
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 29, 2024 18:47:38 GMT
One of the most common things not discussed with transgender people is trans regret. It can lead to suicide. But, discussion of a problem which can cause suicide, is now "transphobic". How absurd is that? Absolutely, it's rammed down our throats how we must accept transgenders, but we never get to know the aftermath of what happens to transchildren, when they aren't accepted, and where they go from there.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 29, 2024 19:10:01 GMT
Why should we accept them for who they "Are" when they didn't accept themselves for who they were?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2024 19:41:17 GMT
Sure, but if a person believes they were born the wrong sex shouldn't a caring society allow them to change gender without prejudice? So long as that person is adult, knows that it really isn't a case of changing sex, (because that's impossible), it's actually a case of becoming a eunuch, and involves life altering irreversible surgery. A child is not old enough to understand this. Putting any child through such a process (ultimately with them undergoing life changing surgery) is abuse. It's criminal. The kid should be taken into care. If a person believes that they have grown wings and can fly like Batman shouldn't a caring society allow them to to fly off a building without prejudice?
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 29, 2024 23:20:33 GMT
It's also the right of his peers to know who or what he is. Their rights have been totally ignored and at least one girl has been left traumatised at his school about this. Are we really supposed to take that seriously? A girl was left traumatised? How exactly? Read the article FFS. You haven't even done that clearly, and yet you still feel qualified to rubbish the claims of at least one child who was left traumatised by this, but are happy to indulge the made-up reality of the trans-cult. Are we supposed to take you seriously?
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 29, 2024 23:22:49 GMT
Are we really supposed to take that seriously? A girl was left traumatised? How exactly? Read the article FFS. You haven't even done that clearly, and yet you still feel qualified to go on about the incident. Where's the link? Was this same girl traumatised when she found out that Father Christmas isn't real too?
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 29, 2024 23:28:55 GMT
Read the article FFS. You haven't even done that clearly, and yet you still feel qualified to go on about the incident. Where's the link? Was this same girl traumatised when she found out that Father Christmas isn't real too? Go and find it for yourself. Then once you've finished belittling a traumatised girl, while simultaneously indulging in the 'feelings' of trans-cult ideology the paradox of your premise should meet and greet you.
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 29, 2024 23:30:20 GMT
Where's the link? Was this same girl traumatised when she found out that Father Christmas isn't real too? Go and find it for yourself. Then once you've finished belittling a traumatised girl, while simultaneously indulging in the 'feelings' of trans-cult ideology the paradox of your premise should meet and greet you. Though, I highly doubt you'll be able to recognise it. Belittling a traumatised girl? What caused the trauma? Finding out that there had been a 'boy' in her class, that she had been lied to? Wait until she finds out Father Christmas is a lie. She'll need therapy.
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