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Post by Vinny on Jan 29, 2024 16:40:53 GMT
What they're doing is enforcing the idea in the child's mind that sex can be changed like clothes. It can't. And one day this very messed up person may end up committing suicide having been encouraged to go down the wrong path in life. edition.cnn.com/2023/06/28/health/transgender-suicide-risk/index.html82% of transgender people surveyed in the USA have had suicidal thoughts. 40% have attempted suicide. It is incredibly dangerous to encourage people who are not fully emotionally developed to go down this path. Especially 4 year olds. Four year olds should be playing games with other children and talking about their favourite dinosaurs etc, not this kind of insanity.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 29, 2024 16:44:58 GMT
So maybe the lefties should concentrate on campaigning for an acceptance of the few boys who think they are girls instead of constructing a lie to indulge it .
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 29, 2024 16:45:42 GMT
What they're doing is enforcing the idea in the child's mind that sex can be changed like clothes. It can't. And one day this very messed up person may end up committing suicide having been encouraged to go down the wrong path in life. edition.cnn.com/2023/06/28/health/transgender-suicide-risk/index.html82% of transgender people surveyed in the USA have had suicidal thoughts. 40% have attempted suicide. It is incredibly dangerous to encourage people who are not fully emotionally developed to go down this path. Especially 4 year olds. Four year olds should be playing games with other children and talking about their favourite dinosaurs etc, not this kind of insanity. Yes, they are a particularly suicide-vulnerable group. That's why this is something that has to be left in the hands of medical professionals.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 29, 2024 16:53:49 GMT
So maybe the lefties should concentrate on campaigning for an acceptance of the few boys who think they are girls instead of constructing a lie to indulge it . Yes we've all got to be enablers to Adult fantasies, you can't say children's fantasies because that's what children have 'fantasies'.
Enabling adults to allow their children to indulge in Adult fantasies we are basically enabling parents to carry out their child abuse, why social services haven't stepped in I'll never know.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 29, 2024 16:58:27 GMT
So maybe the lefties should concentrate on campaigning for an acceptance of the few boys who think they are girls instead of constructing a lie to indulge it . Yes we've all got to be enablers to Adult fantasies, you can't say children's fantasies because that's what children have 'fantasies'.
Enabling adults to allow their children to indulge in Adult fantasies we are basically enabling parents to carry out their child abuse, why social services haven't stepped in I'll never know.
Probably because the social workers are brain washed lefties and full members of the cult of woke .
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 29, 2024 17:07:15 GMT
Yes we've all got to be enablers to Adult fantasies, you can't say children's fantasies because that's what children have 'fantasies'.
Enabling adults to allow their children to indulge in Adult fantasies we are basically enabling parents to carry out their child abuse, why social services haven't stepped in I'll never know.
Probably because the social workers are brain washed lefties and full members of the cult of woke . Now you mention 'cults' if these children were part of a religious cult they would be taken in to care, what's the difference in a religious cult and a transgender cult, example ..
cult/ cults meaning
"a person or thing that is popular or fashionable among a particular group or section of society".
Exactly this is 'fashionable' and it's been forced on to children so as to indulge Adults just like religious cults ...
Cults
"a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object".
The police would instantly close them down and remove the vulnerable children, and rightly so.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 29, 2024 17:23:02 GMT
Probably because the social workers are brain washed lefties and full members of the cult of woke . Now you mention 'cults' if these children were part of a religious cult they would be taken in to care, what's the difference in a religious cult and a transgender cult, example ..
cult/ cults meaning
"a person or thing that is popular or fashionable among a particular group or section of society".
Exactly this is 'fashionable' and it's been forced on to children so as to indulge Adults just like religious cults ...
Cults
"a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object".
The police would instantly close them down and remove the vulnerable children, and rightly so.
Liberal lefties believe in magic words . They believe that reality is subjective and can be manipulative. They are latter day religious nuts
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 29, 2024 17:34:31 GMT
Now you mention 'cults' if these children were part of a religious cult they would be taken in to care, what's the difference in a religious cult and a transgender cult, example ..
cult/ cults meaning
"a person or thing that is popular or fashionable among a particular group or section of society".
Exactly this is 'fashionable' and it's been forced on to children so as to indulge Adults just like religious cults ...
Cults
"a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object".
The police would instantly close them down and remove the vulnerable children, and rightly so.
Liberal lefties believe in magic words . They believe that reality is subjective and can be manipulative. They are latter day religious nuts Actually you're not far off the mark there, when the head of our Church is Justin Welby the Archbishop of Canterbury is just a nut job, then that says it all.
I'd like to call him a Religious Nut but he's far from religious...
"Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby has said "he sometimes has doubts in his belief in God".
In an interview with BBC Bristol the leader of the Church of England said he doubted in "lots of different ways".
Welby is a lefty woke snowflake loony, and that's why people have lost faith in the Church, when he is figurehead, I'd like to say a bit more about him but for the sake of the forum I'll leave it there, but I'm sure you know where I'm coming from.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 29, 2024 17:38:06 GMT
Sure, but if a person believes they were born the wrong sex shouldn't a caring society allow them to change gender without prejudice? Of course, but that doesn't mean people have to accept them, in a ideal world that would be fine, but we don't live in a ideal world, fat people get abused, disabled people get abused, people with mental illness get abused, people with learning disabilities get abused, it's human nature to have prejudices, me personally I don't care what sex anyone wants to be, I don't care if you are gay lesbian or whatever, as long as it doesn't impact my life then I really don't care. You are doing a very good job of hiding that you don't care. A casual observer might think all your posts in the thread show you actually care very much about something which doesn't impact your life at all.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 29, 2024 17:47:00 GMT
Of course, but that doesn't mean people have to accept them, in a ideal world that would be fine, but we don't live in a ideal world, fat people get abused, disabled people get abused, people with mental illness get abused, people with learning disabilities get abused, it's human nature to have prejudices, me personally I don't care what sex anyone wants to be, I don't care if you are gay lesbian or whatever, as long as it doesn't impact my life then I really don't care. You are doing a very good job of hiding that you don't care. A casual observer might think all your posts in the thread show you actually care very much about something which doesn't impact your life at all. I'm a realist Monte, I know how the world ticks over, I know human nature, would you rather me say ... oh yes every one will love and accept transgenders, everyone will accept young boys going to school in dresses and recognising as a 'girl', I'd love to tell you that, but the stark reality in the real world many people wont accept it, other children at school wont accept it, you can't force your belief's on other people.
I'll only say this one more time, I do not care what people's choices are, and this might come as a great shock to you but I have gay/lesbian/trans friends, associates employees, it doesn't make one jot to me, if they aren't imposing on my life or causing me any trouble why would I care?
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 29, 2024 17:50:24 GMT
It doesn't alter the fact you are born either male or female ... FACT There is no in-between, and you can have all the medical prcedures known to man to transform you from male/female, female/male. But ultimately your birth DNA will not change, XX FEMALE - XY MALE ... it will never alter no matter what. Sure, but if a person believes they were born the wrong sex shouldn't a caring society allow them to change gender without prejudice? what happens when it affects other people?
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Post by thomas on Jan 29, 2024 17:55:03 GMT
Sure, but if a person believes they were born the wrong sex shouldn't a caring society allow them to change gender without prejudice? what happens when it affects other people? The nub of the argument.
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Post by see2 on Jan 29, 2024 18:01:33 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 29, 2024 18:04:48 GMT
Look at it from another angle, how many parents have disowned their grown up child who has changed gender, there are many parents who will not accept their daughter is now a boy or their son is now a girl, and I really feel sorry for them, they clearly haven't encouraged or supported them in to this decision.
It tears families apart, and parents wonder where they went 'wrong', my guess would be 'peer pressure', in other words the left woke snowflakes are wanting them to join their 'cult'.
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Post by see2 on Jan 29, 2024 18:06:36 GMT
Sure, but if a person believes they were born the wrong sex shouldn't a caring society allow them to change gender without prejudice? what happens when it affects other people? Rules that don't allow them to affect other people maybe necessary, but that shouldn't stop adults from following their beliefs about themselves in this area of sexual orientation.
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