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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 27, 2024 8:26:16 GMT
If you check out the complex details of the bitmap Arecibo Message … you notice the average human being would really struggle to concoct a very interesting, challenging educational reply. Yet a reply was received … with very interesting additional details. (See pic below). The Arecibo message is an interstellar radio message carrying basic information about humanity and Earth that was sent to the globular cluster Messier 13 in 1974. It was meant as a demonstration of human technological achievement, rather than a real attempt to enter into a conversation with extraterrestrials.
The message was broadcast into space a single time via frequency modulated radio waves at a ceremony to mark the remodeling of the Arecibo Telescope in Puerto Rico on 16 November 1974. The message was aimed at the current location of M13, about 25,000 light years from Earth, because M13 was a large and relatively close collection of stars that was available in the sky at the time and place of the ceremony. When correctly translated into graphics, characters, and spaces, the 1,679 bits of data contained within the message form the image shown here:  As you can see at the bottom of this Wikipedia page … the SETI Institute strangely, immediately dismissed the Arecibo Reply as a ‘hoax’. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_message“ The "Hampshire pattern" or "Chilbolton Code formation" or "Arecibo answer" was a crop circle that appeared in 2001 near the Chilbolton radio telescope in Hampshire, UK, which echoed the visual representation and most of the information from the original Arecibo message with some significant differences including location/origin, DNA configuration, and appearance.
The SETI Institute Online rebutted the idea that this was a genuine extraterrestrial response, by saying, "This is highly improbable. There is no evidence to suggest an other-than-earthly origin for these graphics. The crop circle is a near replica of the Arecibo message, with the same 23 × 73 grid. Most of the chemical data remains the same, with the exception that in the section detailing important chemical elements, silicon has been added, and the diagram of DNA has been rewritten. At the bottom, the pictogram of a human is replaced with a figure with a large, bulbous head. A solar system with 9 planets is also depicted, with emphasis placed on the 3rd, 4th, and 5th planets of the system. The Arecibo telescope is replaced by a replica of a crop circle that appeared in the same field one year before, and the binary representation of the transmitter's diameter is altered.” No visit, no lengthy study …just a brief message on their online site. Perhaps they were a bit hasty?🧐 When you stand in the field and survey from the ground the handiwork … you begin to doubt human hoaxers did this. Check out this observation/film study done at the time involving aerial photographer Lucy Pringle. Just the first 10 mins is all you need to view - to be stunned by the Arecibo Reply … I would love to see a skilled group of hoaxers lay all this out … including the face image … in a single night - with string, wellies and planks of wood! Maybe the ££€€$$$ millions, plus instrumentation and facilities the SETI Institute has accumulated over the years hasn’t been money well spent? 🤔 Maybe much of this should be given to these brilliant dedicated UFO/crop circle researchers recording for posterity phenomena in our airspace and the complex coded brief messages aliens are thought to be leaving in our own back yard? From this response, the tax-payers get the impression the SETI Institute is a sham … and not interested in the idea that highly advanced extra-terrestrials intercepted their message ……my guess is … before it left Earth! A Science Communicator and Astrophysicist popped up on Quora calculating how many light years the one-off broadcast will take to reach it’s intended star system …. his comment read: “ How can you expect a reply to a message that hasn't even arrived yet?
The message was directed at the M13 globular cluster and sent in 1974. That means we've still got about 24,953 years left before it arrives at the first planet that might have a chance of receiving it, and another 145 years after that before they'll all have seen it. And should any of the recipients want to send a reply of their own, it'll take another 25,000–25,145 years for that message to travel back to us. So the earliest we could possibly expect to get a reply here on Earth would be the year 51,974.
Frankly I'll be thrilled if there's even anyone left around to hear it by that point, given that the latency is longer than the entirety of our recorded history so far.” It’s pretty staggering today’s astrophysicists can’t image a message like this being intercepted by aliens before leaving our Solar System? … my guess is we have aliens living amongst us … who might ironically have helped write this! … or at least intercepted it before it left our Earth atmosphere … Astrophysicists have such colossal egos they just can’t imagine other Civilisations being much better at space travel than them. Definitely time to shut down these SETI Institutes … they are not open and receptive to the reality of an alien reply.🤔 … Why didn’t they show up and study this in detail? B. useless organisation! How about some SETI financial recognition to Team Lucy Pringle … ? - Like the Nazca Lines … more evidence written on the landscape that aliens are here and now. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 27, 2024 9:06:20 GMT
By what method can any one of us open up communication with extraterrestrials and verifiably test your claims?
You keep spouting claims.
Proof is required.
How do we get it? Forget dubious websites, how do we talk to extraterrestrials today?
Unless you can give us a method which works, we have to regard your claims as unverified.
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Post by Orac on Jan 27, 2024 9:27:31 GMT
The phenomena represents a genuine puzzler.
The claims that they are faked are not logically impossible, but they do often stretch plausibility. For instance, two men made themselves known as the hoaxers for a large number of the circles. Their claimed hoaxing method was to use pre-existing tracks (lines) to walk in and out of the area and use planks plus string to flatten the crops. When they were confronted with circles they had claimed they had hoaxed, in which there were no such tracks and were asked to explain how they did those, they claimed that they had pole-vaulted from an adjacent field. They are both elderly.
This is the point at which a person with wits should start to detect a lie - If your method is to use the tracks, why go to the bother of attempting to pole-vault into a field, when other fields with pre-existing tracks are available? Why highlight your use of pre-existing tracks if you have done something as dramatic as pole vaulting to avoid doing so ..ie why didn't you mention the pole-vaulting earlier? The final question is , why are you lying about this if it's just a bit of fun?
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Post by Orac on Jan 27, 2024 10:01:44 GMT
my guess is we have aliens living amongst us … who might ironically have helped write this! … or at least intercepted it before it left our Earth atmosphere Or even before it was written down and only existed as an intention in the minds of several people? US intelligence agencies in the seventies and eighties performed experimentation into something called 'remote viewing'. This is the apparent ability held by certain people under certain circumstances to see distant things even if they are hidden. While clearly not 100% reliable, there seemed to be a mountain of apparent soft evidence that there was something to this. When the limits of the ability were tested, it seemed to be possible to collect information about events in the future or plans that only existed as intentions |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 28, 2024 11:03:49 GMT
By what method can any one of us open up communication with extraterrestrials and verifiably test your claims? You keep spouting claims. Proof is required. How do we get it? Forget dubious websites, how do we talk to extraterrestrials today? Unless you can give us a method which works, we have to regard your claims as unverified. Firstly, … it’s not me making these claims … it’s v. experienced U.S. military witnesses to close encounter Contact and witnesses working within these secret Gov. projects and programmes that saw or were involved in joint alien/secret Black Ops projects. These sworn testimonies were gathered together by ex-Military officers … Dr Steven Greer and others in his team currently pushing Disclosure. This is why the BBC should be broadcasting this … the sources are at the very top of the power pyramid. When it is broken open … by public/Media pressure and publicity on the Internet… the whole shocking cover-up … our lab rat existence these 2,000 years … will be revealed. When it comes to you Vinny, personally talking to aliens … it depends entirely on which types you want to speak to! … Each person has a different experience of ethereal beings and ‘religious’ entities … and how they communicate with their ‘spirits’ … that might drop periodically from another dimension … (through a weak gravitational wormhole/portal?) … Shouting “Christ Almighty” when you dropped a Ukrainian shell on your foot might have sent some ‘ripple of communication’ through the ether … without you knowing it!😋 A minority of reliable witnesses(and a whole number of fantasists) claim to have had direct close encounters with physical craft and entities from other parts of the Universe and other Civilisations … entities looking exactly like us in some instances - Nordic types, orientals, Caucasians … hairy beings, … and others not so visible, possibly inter-dimensional … like reptilians … small green paloured entities. Some have communicated in the perfect language of their hosts … or by telepathy … or unintelligibly … and scared people immensely. Sci-Fi writers have trawled these reports for inspiration (eg Monster from the Black Lagoon) … and fakers have trawled Sci Fi and Hollywood … for 5 mins of FAME in the Media. The phenomena represents a genuine puzzler. The claims that they are faked are not logically impossible, but they do often stretch plausibility. For instance, two men made themselves known as the hoaxers for a large number of the circles. Their claimed hoaxing method was to use pre-existing tracks (lines) to walk in and out of the area and use planks plus string to flatten the crops. When they were confronted with circles they had claimed they had hoaxed, in which there were no such tracks and were asked to explain how they did those, they claimed that they had pole-vaulted from an adjacent field. They are both elderly. This is the point at which a person with wits should start to detect a lie - If your method is to use the tracks, why go to the bother of attempting to pole-vault into a field, when other fields with pre-existing tracks are available? Why highlight your use of pre-existing tracks if you have done something as dramatic as pole vaulting to avoid doing so ..ie why didn't you mention the pole-vaulting earlier? The final question is , why are you lying about this if it's just a bit of fun? That’s the problem with the Religious Lobby, sceptics, Deep State and those that gain power and wealth from keeping us in the DARK over this. eg: scientists. They lap up this BS from fakers like honey … and end up looking immensely stupid rolling out totally improbably explanations eg explaining the Rendlesham Forest incident as the local “lighthouse”. It puzzles everyone how can intelligent people take scientists and the Media seriously when they peddle totally stupid explanations like that? … As if the USAF Military … and their Station Commander were not familiar with the behaviour of the local lighthouse? Are scientists trying to infer the guy running a USAF Base is stupid? … that is the implication here. The public are rapidly losing trust in scientists and so-called experts like this … so many “so full of BS”. my guess is we have aliens living amongst us … who might ironically have helped write this! … or at least intercepted it before it left our Earth atmosphere Or even before it was written down and only existed as an intention in the minds of several people? US intelligence agencies in the seventies and eighties performed experimentation into something called 'remote viewing'. This is the apparent ability held by certain people under certain circumstances to see distant things even if they are hidden. While clearly not 100% reliable, there seemed to be a mountain of apparent soft evidence that there was something to this. When the limits of the ability were tested, it seemed to be possible to collect information about events in the future or plans that only existed as intentions If you are interested in the ‘remote viewing’ programme the CIA/Media tried to publicly discredit in the late 90’s … while the U.S. Military likely still explores it’s potential for espionage purposes - check out decorated U.S. Military whistle-blower David Morehouse’s fascinating memoir within the CIA’s Paranormal Espionage Programme. … this is an entertaining read! … www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/david-morehouse/psychic-warrior/… don’t be put off by the criticisms here … the author almost went through a complete mental breakdown from his experiences .. and critics( likely funded/promoted by the CIA) won’t cut any slack for human flaws in a person that whistleblows on a Security Programme. … some say he should have taken the easy career route … and stayed silent. 🤫😎🤫 … but he put Humanity’s interests first - so they pushed him into a mental hospital.🤪🤪 🫣 A cracking incredible true story. Written around 1995. Worth checking out. …The main reason he ‘blew the whistle’ … is illuminated on one of the last pages of this recommended book)  (Tap to expand and read) Note: Remote viewing was being used by the CIA back in the 70’s … this shows the power of Cover-Up … that most of the Public and Sceptics haven’t a clue about what the Programme did, how effective it was … because they are closed minded … and totally crap at research. Sceptics also have absolutely no idea … and quite frankly don’t CARE about the immense fallout and damage this ‘secrecy obsession’ had on ordinary people’s lives … and HUMANITY as a whole. There was no excuse for this SECRECY … because the Russians and Chinese were going through EXACTLY the same issues wrestling with the ‘alien question’ and the super advanced technology falling in their laps … |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 28, 2024 12:18:06 GMT
I know about Project Stargate, Ingo Swann, David Morehouse etc. I used to go on Ufomind back in the 90's when it was the biggest UFO / paranormal / conspiracy site on the internet.
But, this is a debating site.
Opinions and beliefs are irrelevant only facts and evidence.
Dodgy links are not evidence.
What method allows the man on the street to communicate with extra terrestrials and how do I put this to the test and meet aliens myself if they exist and can travel to our planet?
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Post by besoeker3 on Jan 28, 2024 12:30:57 GMT
By what method can any one of us open up communication with extraterrestrials and verifiably test your claims? You keep spouting claims. Proof is required. How do we get it? Forget dubious websites, how do we talk to extraterrestrials today? Unless you can give us a method which works, we have to regard your claims as unverified. Firstly, … it’s not me making these claims … it’s v. experienced U.S. military witnesses to close encounter Contact and witnesses working within these secret Gov. projects and programmes that saw or were involved in joint alien/secret Black Ops projects. These sworn testimonies were gathered together by ex-Military officers … Dr Steven Greer and others in his team currently pushing Disclosure. This is why the BBC should be broadcasting this … the sources are at the very top of the power pyramid. When it is broken open … by public/Media pressure and publicity on the Internet… the whole shocking cover-up … our lab rat existence these 2,000 years … will be revealed. When it comes to you Vinny, personally talking to aliens … it depends entirely on which types you want to speak to! … Each person has a different experience of ethereal beings and ‘religious’ entities … and how they communicate with their ‘spirits’ … that might drop periodically from another dimension … (through a weak gravitational wormhole/portal?) … Shouting “Christ Almighty” when you dropped a Ukrainian shell on your foot might have sent some ‘ripple of communication’ through the ether … without you knowing it!😋 A minority of reliable witnesses(and a whole number of fantasists) claim to have had direct close encounters with physical craft and entities from other parts of the Universe and other Civilisations … entities looking exactly like us in some instances - Nordic types, orientals, Caucasians … hairy beings, … and others not so visible, possibly inter-dimensional … like reptilians … small green paloured entities. Some have communicated in the perfect language of their hosts … or by telepathy … or unintelligibly … and scared people immensely. Sci-Fi writers have trawled these reports for inspiration (eg Monster from the Black Lagoon) … and fakers have trawled Sci Fi and Hollywood … for 5 mins of FAME in the Media. The phenomena represents a genuine puzzler. The claims that they are faked are not logically impossible, but they do often stretch plausibility. For instance, two men made themselves known as the hoaxers for a large number of the circles. Their claimed hoaxing method was to use pre-existing tracks (lines) to walk in and out of the area and use planks plus string to flatten the crops. When they were confronted with circles they had claimed they had hoaxed, in which there were no such tracks and were asked to explain how they did those, they claimed that they had pole-vaulted from an adjacent field. They are both elderly. This is the point at which a person with wits should start to detect a lie - If your method is to use the tracks, why go to the bother of attempting to pole-vault into a field, when other fields with pre-existing tracks are available? Why highlight your use of pre-existing tracks if you have done something as dramatic as pole vaulting to avoid doing so ..ie why didn't you mention the pole-vaulting earlier? The final question is , why are you lying about this if it's just a bit of fun? That’s the problem with the Religious Lobby, sceptics, Deep State and those that gain power and wealth from keeping us in the DARK over this. eg: scientists. They lap up this BS from fakers like honey … and end up looking immensely stupid rolling out totally improbably explanations eg explaining the Rendlesham Forest incident as the local “lighthouse”. It puzzles everyone how can intelligent people take scientists and the Media seriously when they peddle totally stupid explanations like that? … As if the USAF Military … and their Station Commander were not familiar with the behaviour of the local lighthouse? Are scientists trying to infer the guy running a USAF Base is stupid? … that is the implication here. The public are rapidly losing trust in scientists and so-called experts like this … so many “so full of BS”. Or even before it was written down and only existed as an intention in the minds of several people? US intelligence agencies in the seventies and eighties performed experimentation into something called 'remote viewing'. This is the apparent ability held by certain people under certain circumstances to see distant things even if they are hidden. While clearly not 100% reliable, there seemed to be a mountain of apparent soft evidence that there was something to this. When the limits of the ability were tested, it seemed to be possible to collect information about events in the future or plans that only existed as intentions If you are interested in the ‘remote viewing’ programme the CIA/Media tried to publicly discredit in the late 90’s … while the U.S. Military likely still explores it’s potential for espionage purposes - check out decorated U.S. Military whistle-blower David Morehouse’s fascinating memoir within the CIA’s Paranormal Espionage Programme. … this is an entertaining read! … www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/david-morehouse/psychic-warrior/… don’t be put off by the criticisms here … the author almost went through a complete mental breakdown from his experiences .. and critics( likely funded/promoted by the CIA) won’t cut any slack for human flaws in a person that whistleblows on a Security Programme. … some say he should have taken the easy career route … and stayed silent. 🤫😎🤫 … but he put Humanity’s interests first - so they pushed him into a mental hospital.🤪🤪 🫣 A cracking incredible true story. Written around 1995. Worth checking out. …The main reason he ‘blew the whistle’ … is illuminated on one of the last pages of this recommended book) View Attachment(Tap to expand and read) Note: Remote viewing was being used by the CIA back in the 70’s … this shows the power of Cover-Up … that most of the Public and Sceptics haven’t a clue about what the Programme did, how effective it was … because they are closed minded … and totally crap at research. Sceptics also have absolutely no idea … and quite frankly don’t CARE about the immense fallout and damage this ‘secrecy obsession’ had on ordinary people’s lives … and HUMANITY as a whole. There was no excuse for this SECRECY … because the Russians and Chinese were going through EXACTLY the same issues wrestling with the ‘alien question’ and the super advanced technology falling in their laps … And you STILL have no hard evidence of aliens............................. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 29, 2024 13:23:16 GMT
And you STILL have no hard evidence of aliens............................. No … not on a pixilated platform! …. ….. but I’ve discovered HARD EVIDENCE of a TROLL at work and CUT and PASTE stupidity! 😂 🤫 … but seriously … don’t tell anyone … make it our little secret! 🤫 |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 29, 2024 15:10:46 GMT
No evidence of alien communications, or how to communicate with aliens then.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 30, 2024 11:59:22 GMT
The ‘remote viewing’ project (RVP)was always something the CIA could pretend didn’t work … and could drop like a hot potato (like ‘Stargate’ ) - when it suited them … and the Public sniffed out an interest … and started with the ridicule.
[The CIA/Military like to be the one’s dishing out ridicule … not ‘taking it’ …. these guys can’t laugh at themselves … and see the funny side. Psychologists say some people with a screw loose don’t have a sense of humour. … especially serial killers.]
Years down the line from Morehouse and Inigo Swann … their names and their ‘genuine original discoveries’ - eg. rings around Jupiter before NASA research …. still leave ripples in the ether about our Planet and what might be hidden beneath the surface.
…oddly, this just popped up on my Youtube feed this morning … heavily related to Orac introducing RV here … It’s 52 mins long - bang on topic re: alien communication.
… psychic communication.
…. (yes, the heckle fish ruins what could be good serious analysis) …but worth the ride into some truly weird areas which are hard to believe … but we keep an open mind!
Is there some Black Ops joint human/alien secret network being developed around the World …
which might soon go ‘operational’ ?
…no, we are not talking Elon Musk’s Ethernet.
Confirming Remote Viewing results this weird …is v. difficult!
Many misses few hits might just be guess work… Also ‘alien screening/masking techniques are highly advanced … and can likely hide an elephant in a shopping mall if they wanted to.
Dive in … and enjoy! … But ignore the title … they haven’t ‘found’ any of these bases yet … and might never do so. … They could be just ‘distraction’/‘decoy’ mental projections designed by aliens to discredit RV.
Hmmm 🤔
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Post by Vinny on Jan 30, 2024 12:17:18 GMT
More youtube rubbish rather than a method for contacting extra terrestrials.
The thread is not about Remote Viewing the thread is about UFOs.
Stick to the topic rather than veering off because you were found to be mistaken, if you want to create a thread on Remote Viewing, for example discussing Project Stargate / The Men Who Stared at Goats / First Earth Battalion / INSCOM / General Albert Stubblebine III's laughable attempts to walk through walls, by all means create a new thread to discuss that.
BUT this thread is to do with SETI and Extra Terrestrials.
You have failed to provide any evidence for your assertions, only dodgy youtube links.
Anyone can create a dodgy youtube vid.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 30, 2024 12:28:23 GMT
If you bothered to watch the video (52 mins) before jumping in and posting your cut and paste criticisms after barely 17 mins … then you might see a relevance to alien communications in the video … and this conversation … where RV has already been mentioned.
If you want to air threads on Generals who became a laughing stock … and who had no talent for remote viewing .. but became obsessed with Cover-Up … do so elsewhere … I’m not interested.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 30, 2024 12:47:23 GMT
I'm at work and the pc doesn't have speakers. Besides, you've watched the whole 52 minutes and your arguments are rubbish, so why should any of us waste our time? I've been ufo spotting with a diehard believer friend and saw SOMETHING, whether it was ET or not, I cannot prove. Back in the 1990's I used to go on Glenn Campbell's UFOMIND dot com, it was the largest UFO site going. One of the things which took place when Labour was in, was that UFO reports were published by the MOD. www.gov.uk/government/publications/ufo-reports-in-the-ukReports go from 1997-2009. BUT, the issue is facts and evidence. You have not provided any evidence of extra terrestrials. There is more evidence in the published UFO reports than in any of your posts, and still it doesn't show what, or who was observed in the sky, or where from. The issue on this board, is proof. You haven't provided any. You're going to have to learn that youtube isn't proof. Project Blue Book isn't proof. Area 51, which exists, isn't proof of Alien visitors. Give us a method of how to contact extra terrestrials, for example a frequency to receive radio communications. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Feb 3, 2024 9:44:58 GMT
I'm at work and the pc doesn't have speakers.. Why are you commenting on a Discussion Forum that drops sound and vision as evidence … and you have a PC that doesn’t work properly? … and isn’t delivering sound? … knowing how to PROPERLY sift evidence dropped here … isn’t really your thing is it? …. All further serious discussion with Vinny … now becomes pointless. … who jumps on a Forum like this technically ‘deaf’ to most of the audio content dropped here? …. It certainly confirms why Members here continually post stuff you continually ignore … whose logic you refuse to process. … we are knocking on the door thinking ‘nobody is home’ … when the guy inside is just deaf! You are not working for SETI UK are you ?? … they seem deaf and blind to communications dropped by ET in the field next door. 🤣😂 🙈🙉🙊 Time you fixed your computer … then we might feel we are not wasting our time. … and can you get SETI to switch their instrumentation to look for alien life dropping into this Planet … and the field next door to their telescopes …. Please. …. getting an interesting Arrecibo Message reply so soon surely is a clue they are not 20 light years away?🤔 Idiots! 😂🤣 |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 3, 2024 9:53:10 GMT
My work PC is for Sage 50, Microsoft Office, VirtualBox, email, and occasional web browsing, not YouTube.
It doesn't have or need speakers to be functional.
It doesn't have a TPM module either.
Besides, your arguments are so abysmal, whatever you watched, can't be worth watching anyway.
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