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Post by buccaneer on Jan 28, 2024 10:36:28 GMT
Sad little nationalist. So defensive about some poor Scottish bloke in an article. You can't even bring yourself to discuss this poor man because he's Scottish. As usual, you took the OP as an attack on Scottish-ness, and get all defensive about that rather than the actual topic. You can't even bring yourself to discuss the plight of the poor bloke with English and Welsh people. How sad does that make you? so what do you think is the problem buck fast? Whats behind homelessness ? The bloke works 50 hours a week, and can't get a home. He's not a druggy and can't get any assistance because he isn't a bum. The system is rigged against hardworking taxpayers.
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Post by thomas on Jan 28, 2024 10:37:59 GMT
so what do you think is the problem buck fast? Whats behind homelessness ? The bloke works 50 hours a week, and can't get a home. He's not a druggy and can't get any assistance because he isn't a bum. The system is rigged against hardworking taxpayers. re read the question buck fast. What do you think is causing homelessness , im not asking you to give me a synopsis of the article.
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 28, 2024 10:39:06 GMT
The bloke works 50 hours a week, and can't get a home. He's not a druggy and can't get any assistance because he isn't a bum. The system is rigged against hardworking taxpayers. re read the question buck fast. What do you think is causing homelessness , im not asking you to give me a synopsis of the article. I've answered, the system is gamed against honest working taxpayers. Other people take priority over him because he works.
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Post by thomas on Jan 28, 2024 10:40:25 GMT
re read the question buck fast. What do you think is causing homelessness , im not asking you to give me a synopsis of the article. I've answered, the system is gamed against honest working taxpayers. Other people take priority over him because he works. what system ? how is it gamed?
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Post by borchester on Jan 28, 2024 12:59:15 GMT
I've answered, the system is gamed against honest working taxpayers. Other people take priority over him because he works. what system ? how is it gamed? It ain't, but this site is rapidly becoming the the home of low calorie racists who think the world owes them a living and that Mrs Dale's Diary should be up for the Nobel prize for literature.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 28, 2024 14:19:01 GMT
It's entering into a vicious circle where the more people like this guy, the more the need for carers and nurses and we as a nation have to pay so much for that part of the budget and it forever needs more money.
There should be a political name for this vicious cycle. A community has a small number of people who (apparently) 'can't look after themselves', so it makes provision for these people at the expense of everyone else. The extra costs mean now there is a new group of people who were previously able to look after themselves, who now can't. The community now makes provision for this new group. The extra costs mean now there is a new group of people who were...(n) The end of the road is total collapse Additionally, interventions like housing benefit raise rents - ie they increase the costs they are designed to mitigate. What is going on is the government think they administer medicine and in fact they administer poison to get the country well again. Wealth is generated by intelligence and work. If you intelligently work you will be productive, but you also need to trade. I make something for you and you swap it for something you can make for me, so we are both richer. This would work out fine since we both get richer why not do the trade. Well here is where the poison comes in. They tell you, oh well it isn't as simple as that, since it affects this law, that benefit, that contractual agreement and just loads of crap. So we think to ourselves, it is more trouble than it is worth as to do this trade we need to be some kind of contortionist, managing to do it in such a way it satisfies all the restrictions placed by government, insurance firms, the inspectors and all the other shit we have to restrict trade. Indeed the effects are even worse as the regulator jobs swallow up labour. We have to carry them on our backs as well as feed our own families. I suspect part of the problem is the numbers admitted to university. What kind of job are you going to do if you are qualified in psychology or one of the other social sciences? You are going to have to be a regulator, so you will want to push for more regulation and join Labour.
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Post by Orac on Jan 28, 2024 14:35:22 GMT
There should be a political name for this vicious cycle. A community has a small number of people who (apparently) 'can't look after themselves', so it makes provision for these people at the expense of everyone else. The extra costs mean now there is a new group of people who were previously able to look after themselves, who now can't. The community now makes provision for this new group. The extra costs mean now there is a new group of people who were...(n) The end of the road is total collapse Additionally, interventions like housing benefit raise rents - ie they increase the costs they are designed to mitigate. What is going on is the government think they administer medicine and in fact they administer poison to get the country well again. Wealth is generated by intelligence and work. If you intelligently work you will be productive, but you also need to trade. I make something for you and you swap it for something you can make for me, so we are both richer. This would work out fine since we both get richer why not do the trade. Well here is where the poison comes in. They tell you, oh well it isn't as simple as that, since it affects this law, that benefit, that contractual agreement and just loads of crap. So we think to ourselves, it is more trouble than it is worth as to do this trade we need to be some kind of contortionist, managing to do it in such a way it satisfies all the restrictions placed by government, insurance firms, the inspectors and all the other shit we have to restrict trade. Indeed the effects are even worse as the regulator jobs swallow up labour. We have to carry them on our backs as well as feed our own families. I suspect part of the problem is the numbers admitted to university. What kind of job are you going to do if you are qualified in psychology or one of the other social sciences? You are going to have to be a regulator, so you will want to push for more regulation and join Labour. Indeed. What comes to mind is, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" The initial motivation to help the unfortunate is that the cost will be small and suffering removed will be large. However, once it becomes set in place as a procedure, the rule creates bad incentives and changes the relative advantage of one action over another. The numbers in the equation that made it look like such a 'no brainer' to help the unfortunate start to change and at some point, the incentives created turn rancid and self perpetuating. For instance, the help system expands and now people have jobs and careers administering, creating and changing the rules. Abandoning such a system will now not only negatively affect 'the unfortunate' but many (perhaps influential) people with jobs. The system expands such that 50% of the population rely on its help and so it cannot be abandoned without massive upheaval. Things get worse and worse and all along those who are still engaged in production are giving a heavier and heavier load to carry. Regulation follows a similar pattern - its starts as a no brainer and ends as productivity and competition destroying corruption and is pushed into this corner by the bad incentives it creates.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 28, 2024 15:07:49 GMT
What is going on is the government think they administer medicine and in fact they administer poison to get the country well again. Wealth is generated by intelligence and work. If you intelligently work you will be productive, but you also need to trade. I make something for you and you swap it for something you can make for me, so we are both richer. This would work out fine since we both get richer why not do the trade. Well here is where the poison comes in. They tell you, oh well it isn't as simple as that, since it affects this law, that benefit, that contractual agreement and just loads of crap. So we think to ourselves, it is more trouble than it is worth as to do this trade we need to be some kind of contortionist, managing to do it in such a way it satisfies all the restrictions placed by government, insurance firms, the inspectors and all the other shit we have to restrict trade. Indeed the effects are even worse as the regulator jobs swallow up labour. We have to carry them on our backs as well as feed our own families. I suspect part of the problem is the numbers admitted to university. What kind of job are you going to do if you are qualified in psychology or one of the other social sciences? You are going to have to be a regulator, so you will want to push for more regulation and join Labour. Indeed. What comes to mind is, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" The initial motivation to help the unfortunate is that the cost will be small and suffering removed will be large. However, once it becomes set in place as a procedure, the rule creates bad incentives and changes the relative advantage of one action over another. The numbers in the equation that made it look like such a 'no brainer' to help the unfortunate start to change and at some point, the incentives created turn rancid and self perpetuating. For instance, the help system expands and now people have jobs and careers administering, creating and changing the rules. Abandoning such a system will now not only negatively affect 'the unfortunate' but many (perhaps influential) people with jobs. The system expands such that 50% of the population rely on its help and so it cannot be abandoned without massive upheaval. Things get worse and worse and all along those who are still engaged in production are giving a heavier and heavier load to carry. Regulation follows a similar pattern - its starts as a no brainer and ends as productivity and competition destroying corruption and is pushed into this corner by the bad incentives it creates. Do you remember the BS5750? The BS stands for British Standard, and it is to do with standards in an industry, so a firm can get accredited and are then more favourable for bidding government contracts. After the EU got going it was the renamed ISO9000 and serves the same purpose but is now far bigger than ever. You get one bit that says everyone in the company must be trained for the job. This is why when a man who had been self employed and run his own butchers for decades and then got a job in a supermarket had to do a training course before he was allowed to touch knives. You can see such a rule creates a massive demand for training, but it is interesting to note the psychology employed in this training. It is very abusive and can damage your brain. There are many dodgy psychological tricks one can employ to manipulate someone's mind, and this are is entirely unregulated.
This system of big brother knows best how to cut meat is a thing where it stifles the spread of knowledge. In the old days each tradesman would share their tricks of the trade and build up a wisdom gained empirically, much like the science system works. Now there is the right way to do something and all other ways illegal. Not doing it the right way can make you vulnerable to contractual clauses and all sorts. Britain invented this system and caused it to be adopted by their European friends. Now it looks like karma, where what we imposed on others bites us the hardest. The ECHR was also one of our other measures imposed on a wider number of countries, but that bites us the hardest too. I believe this is why we gold plated EU regs. We were the ones behind the doors pushing them onto the EU. Perhaps this is why the French who were in charge of our leaving at the time were unusually helpful and agreeable despite our arsehole behaviour. I guess a bit like the bouncer who is chucking you out of the club is very helpful in you finding the exit door. All of this dumb woke shit comes from us as well because we are related to the US, which is the creator of it.
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