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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 22, 2024 9:41:10 GMT
meanwhile John how's it going in Wales? so why aren't you saying the same to rishi the tory in engerlund , and drake ford the taffy in your own backyard? Ah but i have
I have for example criticised the party to their face on the fact they have declared wales a state of sanctuary and are brainashing our schoolkids that they must put themselves out to welcome rapists, freeloaders and fly by nights who want to come here to get rich not realising the fact our national minimum wage os a hundred times what they make because a mcdonalds costs a month's pay, and that they stood and whinged that they have no housing stock into which they could have moved people to avoid the bedroom tax whilst doing fuck all to provide any. That they have poired billions into a dozen vanity projects while doing fuck all about existing citizens' needs.
They donlt give a fuck, but i assure you they have had their failings identified...
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Post by wapentake on Jan 22, 2024 9:46:37 GMT
You do talk uneducated crap Sometimes. Try doing a bit of Research on the Subject and don't try to lecure me on the plight of Homelessness I've Given 18yrs+ of my time and Money being a Active Campaigner for Homelessness in Greater Manchester though Charity work Dose . That in your words make me A lefty Do Gooder? Maybe you should take your own advice lefty old bean and have a more objective approach rather than relying on labours book of bullshit. Blair hid the increased numbers on the dole on the streets and on NHS waiting lists by paper shuffling... Good for you TTL but Burnham is a politician and imo doesn’t give a stuff about Manchester what he sees is a route to leading the Labour Party once Steamer makes a hash of it as he will. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 22, 2024 10:03:45 GMT
meanwhile John how's it going in Wales? so why aren't you saying the same to rishi the tory in engerlund , and drake ford the taffy in your own backyard? Ah but i have
I have for example criticised the party to their face on the fact they have declared wales a state of sanctuary and are brainashing our schoolkids that they must put themselves out to welcome rapists, freeloaders and fly by nights who want to come here to get rich not realising the fact our national minimum wage os a hundred times what they make because a mcdonalds costs a month's pay, and that they stood and whinged that they have no housing stock into which they could have moved people to avoid the bedroom tax whilst doing fuck all to provide any. That they have poired billions into a dozen vanity projects while doing fuck all about existing citizens' needs.
They donlt give a fuck, but i assure you they have had their failings identified...
we all understand the problem mass immigration into the western world is causing in terms of housing John. It's nothing new , we have been talking about it since Blair opened the floodgates in 2004 , but it is a growing problem that is getting worse. We know you have criticised the devolved administrations. My point , which you aren't picking up though , is having criticised drake ford and useless , why aren't you criticising Sunak and the British who are in charge of all immigration including into Scotland and Wales , and the country where they do control housing and associated policies , England , has a worse homeless rate than Scotland and Wales put together? As usual , you can't see beyond your British nationalism and BNP hatred . While lefty can't tell us how labour will magically solve homelessness and much else , you can't tell us how the British will either. No major party in most western countries has a fucking clue what to do about mass immigration , this isn't a purely devolved administration problem , or even British problem. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 22, 2024 10:08:08 GMT
noticed how you are screaming about the snp and homelessness in Scotland John , but in your own article , for balance , its says this... meanwhile John how's it going in Wales?
Wales hits new homelessness high - so what is being done about it?.
www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/23789565.wales-hits-new-homelessness-high---done/ so why aren't you saying the same to rishi the tory in engerlund , and drake ford the taffy in your own backyard? another day , another snp bad story. next................? The point you spectacularly fail to address is that the SNP leader said this www.gov.scot/news/citizenship-in-an-independent-scotland/In short, he wants to work towards an independent scotland with few if any borders for outside migrants wishng to invade, yet he has nothing to offer this man. The suggestion i make is get your own fucking house in order and house your existeing citizens before making any more proud pakistani scotsmen to use his description of hmsef in the above
so you are outraged at something that is nothing more than useless Wishlist in a potential future Scotland? How many times does it need pointing out homelessness is a major issue currently in most western countries , and that neither drake ford , or useless , have control of immigration ? It is a reserved issue John. What Scotland potentially does regarding immigration in the miracle that useless actually leads us to independence is fuck all to do with you. Get your own British house in fucking order with the waves of boats docking on Hastings beach before lecturing others. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 22, 2024 10:14:09 GMT
Tony Blair and the last new labour government had homelessness through the roof . what are you actually talking about?
the number of homeless families in Scotland has decreased by 41% since the SNP came to power in 2007, having increased by many thousands under Labour’s rule.
Scottish Labour have, of course, always relied (usually fruitlessly) on the electorate having a short memory. But as a Labour government at Holyrood becomes a more and more distant memory, it’s a tactic they’ll probably deploy more and more often. And that’s why sites like this one are here to remember things, even when the Scottish press has forgotten which stories they ran two months ago
wingsoverscotland.com/yes-we-are-a-long-way-from-home/#more-105316Haha your printing A Article from Wings of Scotland to try and disprove a well known and published policy on Roughb Sleeping Homelessness in Britain Maybe I should start showing Articles by Dandy& Beno dont shoot the messenger because you dont like the message. The data wings linked to regard to the 41% fall in homelessness after labour were booted out , is there in the graph on the article , which leads you to the governments own figures.... www.gov.scot/publications/homelessness-scotland-2017-18/ A labour supporter like you moaning about homelessness under the snp in Scotland , and tories in England is a bit rich coming from a guy whose party , new labour over 13 years built less social housing than Margaret thatcher did , which massively contributed to housing and homelessness problems uk wide.....
Labour should “apologise” for its poor record of building social housing, the party’s own London housing spokesman has said.
Tom Copley said it galled him that Margaret Thatcher’s government built more council flats and houses in a single year than Tony Blair and Gordon Brown managed over 13 years in power.
www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-should-apologise-for-social-housing-failure-8932797.html |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 22, 2024 10:57:10 GMT
Haha your printing A Article from Wings of Scotland to try and disprove a well known and published policy on Roughb Sleeping Homelessness in Britain Maybe I should start showing Articles by Dandy& Beno dont shoot the messenger because you dont like the message. The data wings linked to regard to the 41% fall in homelessness after labour were booted out , is there in the graph on the article , which leads you to the governments own figures.... www.gov.scot/publications/homelessness-scotland-2017-18/ A labour supporter like you moaning about homelessness under the snp in Scotland , and tories in England is a bit rich coming from a guy whose party , new labour over 13 years built less social housing than Margaret thatcher did , which massively contributed to housing and homelessness problems uk wide.....
Labour should “apologise” for its poor record of building social housing, the party’s own London housing spokesman has said.
Tom Copley said it galled him that Margaret Thatcher’s government built more council flats and houses in a single year than Tony Blair and Gordon Brown managed over 13 years in power.
www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-should-apologise-for-social-housing-failure-8932797.htmlDon't Know why Thomas but thats the 3rd link.you posted that'd didn't open..it says not found . Yes your right that New labour built less social council. houses . But if you Inclide the Housing Association he allowed to build Social. Housing instead of Local Councils . They Built more Social housing then Thatcher . Also people who Make that Statement seem to forget that he had a Massive house Regeneration programme for Occupied and unoccupied .Don't know about Glasgow but I remember that there was large Areas of housing with Boarded up.windows because at the time there was considered unoccupible. And that doesn't take away the Successful programme of taking the Rough Sleeper of the Streets . |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2024 11:13:21 GMT
I see the ScotNat is whinging about the poor performance from Scottish Labour leaders - the traitors who GAVE the SNP power and shat on England.
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 22, 2024 11:30:52 GMT
www.insidehousing.co.uk/the stakes were raised in a new green paper. A fresh target was set to accelerate annual house building rates to 240,000 homes a year by 2016, plus an ambition to see 3 million new homes created by 2020. A new superagency, the HCA, would be set up to lead the charge on social housing, and a network of new ‘eco-towns’ would create up to an extra 100,000 homes. The housebuilding stats for that year provided rocket fuel for Labour’s housing ambition: 224,680 homes were built in the UK across all sectors - the highest figure since 1981. It was also the first year for at least two decades in which the number of social homes built outstripped those lost through right to buy. But hopes for a revolution in housing supply were soon dashed by the collapse of the global financial market. Banks stopped lending; developers stopped building; home building rates plunged to historically low levels. The HCA’s chief role became the housing market’s rescuer rather than accelerator. As UK development figures plummeted through 2008 to an all time low of just 37,380 completions in the first quarter of 2009, the HCA pumped an extra £1.5 billion of taxpayers’ money to kick-start stalled projects and help social landlords build through the credit crunch. ‘There’s still more to do’ became Labour’s new housing mantra. And as Labour’s third parliament headed into its dying days, the policy announcements continued (see box: Labour housing policy: is this the future?). The curtain call of Labour’s third term was perhaps its most significant reform: finally proposing plans to free councils from the shackles of the hated housing revenue account. The plans, out to consultation until July, would allow councils to spend tenants’ rents on new housing and keeping their existing homes up to scratch - rather than handing the cash to the Treasury through gritted teeth. Labour has achieved what some thought was impossible, making social housing decent again through its focus on refurbishment and its efforts to end segregation. How that is kept up lies in the hands of the government voted into power yesterday. Let’s hope things can only get better.
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Post by thomas on Jan 22, 2024 17:55:31 GMT
dont shoot the messenger because you dont like the message. The data wings linked to regard to the 41% fall in homelessness after labour were booted out , is there in the graph on the article , which leads you to the governments own figures.... www.gov.scot/publications/homelessness-scotland-2017-18/ A labour supporter like you moaning about homelessness under the snp in Scotland , and tories in England is a bit rich coming from a guy whose party , new labour over 13 years built less social housing than Margaret thatcher did , which massively contributed to housing and homelessness problems uk wide.....
Labour should “apologise” for its poor record of building social housing, the party’s own London housing spokesman has said.
Tom Copley said it galled him that Margaret Thatcher’s government built more council flats and houses in a single year than Tony Blair and Gordon Brown managed over 13 years in power.
www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-should-apologise-for-social-housing-failure-8932797.htmlDon't Know why Thomas but thats the 3rd link.you posted that'd didn't open..it says not found . Yes your right that New labour built less social council. houses . But if you Inclide the Housing Association he allowed to build Social. Housing instead of Local Councils . They Built more Social housing then Thatcher . the link opens for me. the gist of it is here...
He said: “As a Labour politician one of the things that really galls me is that there’s this statistic that more council homes were built in the last year of Thatcher’s government than were built in the 13 years of Labour government, and that’s something I think as a Labour Party we need to apologise for.” Official figures show only 6,330 council houses were completed from 1998 to 2010, compared with 17,710 in 1990 alone, which was Baroness Thatcher’s final year as prime minister. In one Labour year, 2004, the number fell to just 130 council homes completed.
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Post by thomas on Jan 22, 2024 18:08:22 GMT
I see the ScotNat is whinging about the poor performance from Scottish Labour leaders - the traitors who GAVE the SNP power and shat on England. where? |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 22, 2024 18:11:29 GMT
Don't Know why Thomas but thats the 3rd link.you posted that'd didn't open..it says not found . Yes your right that New labour built less social council. houses . But if you Inclide the Housing Association he allowed to build Social. Housing instead of Local Councils . They Built more Social housing then Thatcher . the link opens for me. the gist of it is here...
He said: “As a Labour politician one of the things that really galls me is that there’s this statistic that more council homes were built in the last year of Thatcher’s government than were built in the 13 years of Labour government, and that’s something I think as a Labour Party we need to apologise for.” Official figures show only 6,330 council houses were completed from 1998 to 2010, compared with 17,710 in 1990 alone, which was Baroness Thatcher’s final year as prime minister. In one Labour year, 2004, the number fell to just 130 council homes completed.
Prove It?
Can you show me what you mean?Right I already known what he said. I did agree that thatcher built more houses the New labour . If you look at the post above the other one you find in the copy and paste i did you find out about what Socal housing was built with the aid of housing Association's |
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Post by thomas on Jan 22, 2024 18:20:18 GMT
the link opens for me. the gist of it is here...
He said: “As a Labour politician one of the things that really galls me is that there’s this statistic that more council homes were built in the last year of Thatcher’s government than were built in the 13 years of Labour government, and that’s something I think as a Labour Party we need to apologise for.” Official figures show only 6,330 council houses were completed from 1998 to 2010, compared with 17,710 in 1990 alone, which was Baroness Thatcher’s final year as prime minister. In one Labour year, 2004, the number fell to just 130 council homes completed.
Prove It?
Can you show me what you mean?If you look at the post above the other one you find in the copy and paste i did you find out about what Socal housing was built with the aid of housing Association's Tony Blair and new labour took power in 1997 , and Blair stepped down having only met his own annual target of 200 000 uk wide houses in 2 of the 10 years he was in power. When brown took over , house building dropped off a cliff. So what are you talking about? Their record on housing whether social or uk wide total housebuilding remains a disgrace. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 22, 2024 18:43:23 GMT
If you look at the post above the other one you find in the copy and paste i did you find out about what Socal housing was built with the aid of housing Association's Tony Blair and new labour took power in 1997 , and Blair stepped dowon n having only met his own annual target of 200 000 uk wide houses in 2 of the 10 years he was in power. When brown took over , house building dropped off a cliff. So what are you talking about? Their record on housing whether social or uk wide total housebuilding remains a disgrace. Did you read this 224,680 homes were built in the UK across all sectors - the highest figure since 1981. It was also the first year for at least two decades in which the number of social homes built outstripped those lost through right to buy.and let's not forget the Social. Housing Regeration programme what improved the standard of occupied houses and regenerated unoccupied houses so they Could be lived in again. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 22, 2024 19:05:46 GMT
Yes but that is because instead of a happy family with one child sharing a place, you get one flat, one homeless and chances are that baby with be taken into "care" sic at some point as well. This man is at the back of the queue because he is an able-bodied single male who is employed and not drug addicted. Priority in public housing is given to women and children, is it not? No, priority is given to young mostly Muslim men who cross the channel in dinghies. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 22, 2024 19:19:06 GMT
Tony Blair and new labour took power in 1997 , and Blair stepped dowon n having only met his own annual target of 200 000 uk wide houses in 2 of the 10 years he was in power. When brown took over , house building dropped off a cliff. So what are you talking about? Their record on housing whether social or uk wide total housebuilding remains a disgrace. Did you read this 224,680 homes were built in the UK across all sectors - the highest figure since 1981. It was also the first year for at least two decades in which the number of social homes built outstripped those lost through right to buy.and let's not forget the Social. Housing Regeration programme what improved the standard of occupied houses and regenerated unoccupied houses so they Could be lived in again. aye , but where does this negate what I said in my previous posts? so are you implying the right to buy policy was wrong? |
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