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Post by Bentley on Jan 30, 2024 16:28:30 GMT
A well known mystic has researched the evolution of souls and has said some interesting things, it also aligns with astronomy in this way. The earth seems to be unique, so far we havent even come close to finding anything similar, and the earth is tailor made for its purpose, which is this. Its to give you the most varied experience in the physical, that your learning curve will be big, good and bad. And get this, your life was planned BEFORE birth. The people that incarnate onto the earth are from many different realms, get that, wow, what different realms? That explains why we are all unique, different, weird, but lumped into a human body. Whether you experience good things or bad things, or both, or whatever, its intention is good. Its to knock you into shape, develop you, become less of an animal, coarse, basic, more than just a blob of energy. To turn you from coal into a diamond. Surely the upper reaches of the Universe, creation has already travelled that path, and its where your destiny lies. All is good, the suffering you have experienced in your life has a purpose, life on earth means you have hit a jackpot, a rapid evolution, that has a drawback, it hurts. Karma, or cause and effect is real. And it all of that, it is highly likely you have led a trail of destruction in your path, knowingly or unknowingly, can you forgive yourself for your err, lets use religion, your sins.? Its important, and will lift the weights you have on your back. Imagine this, Putin gets to the realisation that genocide is wrong, can you imagine how that must feel? No amount of physical punishment can compare, and you are in the same boat. ( Wink). Forgiveness is part of developing, yourself and others. Congratulations if you got this far. This female mystic is well known, find her if your bothered, im not bothered if you do or not, all roads lead to Rome. I can communicate with spirits that cannot go over and when I do a light opens for them to cross. Normally most of these have some karma or are non-believers. in crossing over you are guided by someone you knew in your lifetime and then your energetic being meets your guides to help you understand your life and where you might have handled things differently. Once lessons are known you are educated on your next life purpose and catapulted into a different world that is not human. You will have no knowledge of humanity your new form will feel completely natural. The person that greeted you goes off on their new life too so you do not meet again. So pretty much every religion is written no then ….or at least not correct.
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Post by bancroft on Jan 30, 2024 18:52:37 GMT
Religions are often about dogma.
Yet there is an overlap.
There is a hell after death when you are in limbo, if you go to a red light - game over as you will meet an evil influence with no hope of escape.
If you go to a blue light then they will guide you to the white light.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 30, 2024 18:56:20 GMT
Religions are often about dogma. Yet there is an overlap. There is a hell after death when you are in limbo, if you go to a red light - game over as you will meet an evil influence with no hope of escape. If you go to a blue light then they will guide you to the white light. Of course there’s an overlap. Nevertheless, you have invented a new religion by pick and mixing bits of different ones .
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Post by bancroft on Jan 30, 2024 23:00:45 GMT
I heard a voice when I was twelve saying I was like Jesus.
Freaked me out for a while.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 30, 2024 23:29:22 GMT
I heard a voice when I was twelve saying I was like Jesus. Freaked me out for a while. Perhaps the voice was telling you Jesus was an ordinary bloke like you and not divine .
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Post by piglet on Jan 31, 2024 10:30:33 GMT
Wow, thats amazing Bancroft, those that think there is nothing beyond is in its turn amazing, that in the vast complexity of everything, life, stuff, whatever, it just stops. Paulus, is firing artillery shells into civilian flats, isnt that genocide, or bombing railway stations?
It isnt in your world, then what is?, is it the numbers?
Bancroft, id like to hear more, i know this is public though.
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Post by piglet on Jan 31, 2024 10:34:21 GMT
Jesus was an ordinary bloke that had come here to teach us that we are divine.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 31, 2024 10:46:04 GMT
Jesus was an ordinary bloke that had come here to teach us that we are divine. Now you have created a new religion . There are endless permutations and every new one of them makes their premises less likely.
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Post by piglet on Jan 31, 2024 10:56:50 GMT
No i havent, i presume all religions teach the same thing. The Bible teaches us that we are divine, god is not elsewhere.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 31, 2024 12:32:24 GMT
No i havent, i presume all religions teach the same thing. The Bible teaches us that we are divine, god is not elsewhere. Of course they don’t . Greek/ Roman ,Nordic , South American etc religion was different from Buddhism which is different from Abrahamic religions. They all had different premises. We have Wicca, Shinto,Taoism, The Satanic cults, Cargo cult etc etc . They all have different premises . You just created a religious premise that Jesus was an ordinary man. That contradicts all of the Abrahamic religions afaik. In fact that view would have got you executed a few centuries ago.
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Post by piglet on Feb 1, 2024 10:27:57 GMT
Oh, i havent studied religion, id be interested on an educational level, what those different premises are. As for Jesus being an ordinary man he was, he is or was like you or me, the difference being was that he was more evolved. Yes you are, you were created by the Universe, god or whatever you want to call it, you are a bit of all there is.
How can it be any different? including all the religions above.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 1, 2024 11:41:44 GMT
Oh, i havent studied religion, id be interested on an educational level, what those different premises are. As for Jesus being an ordinary man he was, he is or was like you or me, the difference being was that he was more evolved. Yes you are, you were created by the Universe, god or whatever you want to call it, you are a bit of all there is. How can it be any different? including all the religions above. Jesus wasn’t an ordinary man . He was a Demi god( as was Hercules and Achilles iirc) , born of a God and a virgin( as was some other mythical figures) . He was able to perform miracles , cast out demons and survive death etc etc. That isn’t an ordinary man . The Whole point of the new covenant was that Jesus was exceptional. As for Jesus being more ‘ evolved ‘ …evolution isn’t a mechanism for a species to advance , it’s a mechanism for a species to survive . It’s interesting to hear ‘ Christians ‘ using the term’ evolution’ and ‘ Karma ‘. Both if these terms contradict the Christian premise . Thing is ..you are constructing a cod religion from the bits and pieces of religions that you know about or have heard about . Thats fine and if it gives you comfort then go for it …. Also ..here’s something to think about. Buddhism tells us that there is no such thing as an ‘ immortal soul’ ….not only that but Buddhism denies that there is such things as ‘ self’. And this is a religion ( sometimes it denies that it is a religion ) that believes in reincarnation. It takes quite a bit of mental gymnastics to get your head around that .
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Post by borchester on Feb 1, 2024 11:51:48 GMT
Religion is all very well for foreigners and smackheads who have just come out of rehab, but God is an Englishman.
Accept that and you won't go far wrong.
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Post by piglet on Feb 2, 2024 10:20:06 GMT
Laet me help Bentley, i have read books on Buddhism, there much good stuff in there. It says that life is like a wave in the sea, it is seperate and is also part of the whole, you are human, but still part of a greater existence, as mentioned, you are a creation of the universe.
The immortal soul is not different either to the whole, its not seperate, you can concieve of it as being seperate or not, your consciousness is part of a bigger consciousness, and yes, it does notice every sparrow that falls, because a sparrow too is divine, a work of art, perfect in all ways.
As a human therein lies serious creativity, your mind, you can do anything with it, free will, etc, create heaven or hell. Where you go with it creates future paths, you are creating your future now, every second, beyond what we call death. God only knows what spheres there are beyond this life, created by people like you and me, think it, it becomes so in time. A hell like realm awaits people like Putin.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2024 11:22:39 GMT
The opening subject was forgiveness and Jesus' laws say that we should all forgive others, remember too that we are forgiven. Not automatically of course, for true repentance must feature largely on our part first. There is also the concept that forgiveness has to be accepted. We might be forgiven as a gift of God but if we cannot accept that, then we will not be comfortable in His presence so our acceptance will determine our eternal future. If we are unable to forgive others then we will be treated the same. Our aim throughout our earthly life is to become as much like Jesus and His Father as we can then God's Grace takes up the rest. Sadly the Old Testament set the bar too high and perfection was unattainable, fortunately the plan included the birth of Jesus in fulfilling the Old Testament prophesies which gave us a new order where forgiveness and redemption are possible and thus eternal life. There is a lot to be very grateful for.
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