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Post by Totheleft on Jan 17, 2024 9:03:45 GMT
You don't know if anyone going to Commit a Crime do you before they Commit it .Anyway is this coming from soT..meone who didn't comdem someone who pushed for the Knighthood of to Known Nounces They had allready commited a crime by breaking into your house lefty old bean What you on about what crime ? |
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Post by thomas on Jan 17, 2024 9:06:46 GMT
Evidently not. What, this BNP?   I said whatever name they go under Wether it be Ukip or Ukreform . Are you saying that The BMP have never winched about the No matter how many votes we get under FPTP system 😂 This article was written 11 years ago , and every word still rings true today............ Why (new) Labour are to blame for UKIP This shouldn’t take long. Since 1997, and particularly since 2001, what passes for the political ideology of the Labour Party in Britain could be accurately summed up in one short phrase: be the smallest possible single step to the left of the Tories. Protected by the grossly undemocratic First Past The Post electoral system – which discriminates massively against third parties and ensures that Labour or the Tories can secure huge, unassailable majorities on barely more than a third of the vote – Tony Blair’s brilliant, ruinous flash of political inspiration was the willingness to fully grasp the implication of that fact: that Labour could effectively all but become the Tories and still capture the left-wing vote, because that vote had nowhere else to go. For as long as Labour continue to handcuff themselves to the Tories in pursuit of Middle England votes, then, UKIP will continue to rise. And in the process, Labour will continue to dig itself deeper into a hole, pushing the terms of political discourse further and further onto the ground where it’s least comfortable and least trusted, and making it easier and easier for UKIP to dictate the agenda. (With a side effect that Labour voters in the poorest areas, especially in the north of England, will also become easier prey for super-extremists like the BNP, who capitalise on the desperation of working-class poverty with what are fairly left-wing economic policies ostensibly funded by excluding ethnic minorities from services.) Labour seems deadlocked into this cycle of self-destruction, completely bereft of the courage to offer the electorate a genuine alternative to Conservative ideology. The unfortunate British public has only begun to suffer the consequences. wingsoverscotland.com/why-labour-are-to-blame-for-ukip/#more-33702https://wingsoverscotland.com/why-labour-are-to-blame-for-ukip/#more-33702 |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 17, 2024 9:06:56 GMT
They had allready commited a crime by breaking into your house lefty old bean What you on about what crime ? Maybe you could get another to explain lefty old bean as you don't seem to know anything. But hey ho that's the result of having a woke lefty education so we have to accept your limitations. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 17, 2024 9:06:56 GMT
They had allready commited a crime by breaking into your house lefty old bean What you on about what crime ? Illegal Entry to UK. (Immigration Act 1971). |
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Post by thomas on Jan 17, 2024 9:08:03 GMT
can you translate this for me? who is the true left , and who is the enemy of the true left. over to you? the true left are them that stand against the right wing element of politics . That's who the true left are That someing you and Steve are not seeing you always agree with the Right wing element on this Forum. Who is the true left? Im asking you which political party is the true left. Who is the true right ? Which political party? |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 17, 2024 9:12:21 GMT
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 17, 2024 9:16:39 GMT
Evidently not. What, this BNP? There is some truth in that squeezed middle. The BNP as I understand them were economically to the left and socially right wing , but the crux of the matter to why they mopped up a lot of the old labour vote is that many of the white working class felt totally abandoned by new labour. People like trade union activists for example Paul embery have talked about this factor in great depth for a number of years. Still its easier to sit and scream racist and extremist rather than understand why your party no longer commands the white working class support as it once did. What right working class vote it once had You do know that New labour got into power 3 time by a landslide victory with the vote of the Working class don't you And if your talking about working Class labour would that be the labour party that lost the working class vote with high inflation at 20%+ or had electricity cuts and uncollected rubbish for months . That was brought down by the loony far left |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2024 9:19:35 GMT
The biggest trick the Jew hating Nazis attempted to pull off was to convince the world that they're Woke.
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Post by thomas on Jan 17, 2024 9:20:02 GMT
There is some truth in that squeezed middle. The BNP as I understand them were economically to the left and socially right wing , but the crux of the matter to why they mopped up a lot of the old labour vote is that many of the white working class felt totally abandoned by new labour. People like trade union activists for example Paul embery have talked about this factor in great depth for a number of years. Still its easier to sit and scream racist and extremist rather than understand why your party no longer commands the white working class support as it once did. What right working class vote it once had You do know that New labour got into power 3 time by a landslide victory with the vote of the Working class don't you And if your talking about working Class labour would that be the labour party that lost the working class vote with high inflation at 20%+ or had electricity cuts and uncollected rubbish for months . That was brought down by the loony far left its like im trying to engage with you , and you are ignoring what is being said while frothing at the mouth shouting about new labours three electoral victories. I will ask again. Which political party represents the true left.? If you can't tell me , or won't , then it doesn't speak much for you having the courage of your political convictions , and shows we must simply dismiss your latest ramblings . |
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Post by thomas on Jan 17, 2024 9:21:30 GMT
The biggest trick the Jew hating Nazis attempted to pull off was to convince the world that they're Woke. F.F.S.! Its like trying to have a political conversation with the lunatics in an asylum. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 17, 2024 9:23:26 GMT
I said whatever name they go under Wether it be Ukip or Ukreform . Are you saying that The BMP have never winched about the No matter how many votes we get under FPTP system 😂 This article was written 11 years ago , and every word still rings true today............ Why (new) Labour are to blame for UKIP This shouldn’t take long. Since 1997, and particularly since 2001, what passes for the political ideology of the Labour Party in Britain could be accurately summed up in one short phrase: be the smallest possible single step to the left of the Tories. Protected by the grossly undemocratic First Past The Post electoral system – which discriminates massively against third parties and ensures that Labour or the Tories can secure huge, unassailable majorities on barely more than a third of the vote – Tony Blair’s brilliant, ruinous flash of political inspiration was the willingness to fully grasp the implication of that fact: that Labour could effectively all but become the Tories and still capture the left-wing vote, because that vote had nowhere else to go. For as long as Labour continue to handcuff themselves to the Tories in pursuit of Middle England votes, then, UKIP will continue to rise. And in the process, Labour will continue to dig itself deeper into a hole, pushing the terms of political discourse further and further onto the ground where it’s least comfortable and least trusted, and making it easier and easier for UKIP to dictate the agenda. (With a side effect that Labour voters in the poorest areas, especially in the north of England, will also become easier prey for super-extremists like the BNP, who capitalise on the desperation of working-class poverty with what are fairly left-wing economic policies ostensibly funded by excluding ethnic minorities from services.) Labour seems deadlocked into this cycle of self-destruction, completely bereft of the courage to offer the electorate a genuine alternative to Conservative ideology. The unfortunate British public has only begun to suffer the consequences. wingsoverscotland.com/why-labour-are-to-blame-for-ukip/#more-33702https://wingsoverscotland.com/why-labour-are-to-blame-for-ukip/#more-33702That just proven my point that you loopy fair left agree with the Right wing Element of politics no matter how extrem They are .your even putting the working class element down by saying they Support the facist BNP .you should be Ashamed at yourselve it just shows what level you loopy far left will steep to. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 17, 2024 9:24:28 GMT
This article was written 11 years ago , and every word still rings true today............ Why (new) Labour are to blame for UKIP This shouldn’t take long. Since 1997, and particularly since 2001, what passes for the political ideology of the Labour Party in Britain could be accurately summed up in one short phrase: be the smallest possible single step to the left of the Tories. Protected by the grossly undemocratic First Past The Post electoral system – which discriminates massively against third parties and ensures that Labour or the Tories can secure huge, unassailable majorities on barely more than a third of the vote – Tony Blair’s brilliant, ruinous flash of political inspiration was the willingness to fully grasp the implication of that fact: that Labour could effectively all but become the Tories and still capture the left-wing vote, because that vote had nowhere else to go. For as long as Labour continue to handcuff themselves to the Tories in pursuit of Middle England votes, then, UKIP will continue to rise. And in the process, Labour will continue to dig itself deeper into a hole, pushing the terms of political discourse further and further onto the ground where it’s least comfortable and least trusted, and making it easier and easier for UKIP to dictate the agenda. (With a side effect that Labour voters in the poorest areas, especially in the north of England, will also become easier prey for super-extremists like the BNP, who capitalise on the desperation of working-class poverty with what are fairly left-wing economic policies ostensibly funded by excluding ethnic minorities from services.) Labour seems deadlocked into this cycle of self-destruction, completely bereft of the courage to offer the electorate a genuine alternative to Conservative ideology. The unfortunate British public has only begun to suffer the consequences. wingsoverscotland.com/why-labour-are-to-blame-for-ukip/#more-33702https://wingsoverscotland.com/why-labour-are-to-blame-for-ukip/#more-33702That just proven my point that you loopy fair left agree with the Right wing Element of politics no matter how extrem They are .your even putting the working class element down by saying they Support the facist BNP .you should be Ashamed at yourselve it just shows what level you loopy far left will steep to. oh well. I did try . |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2024 9:25:12 GMT
The biggest trick the Jew hating Nazis attempted to pull off was to convince the world that they're Woke. F.F.S.! Its like trying to have a political conversation with the lunatics in an asylum. Is Adam Binnie Bryson a man or a woman under National Socialism? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 17, 2024 9:25:33 GMT
There is some truth in that squeezed middle. The BNP as I understand them were economically to the left and socially right wing , but the crux of the matter to why they mopped up a lot of the old labour vote is that many of the white working class felt totally abandoned by new labour. People like trade union activists for example Paul embery have talked about this factor in great depth for a number of years. Still its easier to sit and scream racist and extremist rather than understand why your party no longer commands the white working class support as it once did. What right working class vote it once had You do know that New labour got into power 3 time by a landslide victory with the vote of the Working class don't you And if your talking about working Class labour would that be the labour party that lost the working class vote with high inflation at 20%+ or had electricity cuts and uncollected rubbish for months . That was brought down by the loony far left Gibberish. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 17, 2024 9:28:06 GMT
Sadly, you just can't engage with that level of stupidity. |
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