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Post by Totheleft on Jan 13, 2024 12:36:52 GMT
[br? Ha ha more knonsence from a right winger Are you a Supporter of Boris Johnson by any Chance if so that explains a lot.. You are Big Fat Liar if you say the Savile case never got to Starmer, a high profile 'celebrity' like Jimmy Savile will 110% landed on Starmer's desk.
He was FULLY aware of Savile when he was questioned under caution by Surrey Police in 2009, why are you lying, and why are you so desperate to cover up Starmer's failings?
Oh my last time I answer such. Persistent lies. Yes stammer was aware of the Alligedge Accusations against Savile. He would have allowed the investigation to happen. But no Charges was made by the Investigating police force So Sir Keir can't bring charges And I'm still waiting on my response of several times when I said that the Conservative Government was in charge when Savile was at the height of his abuse and there was plenty of Accusations. But brought no investigation. At least under Sir Starmer there was one opened. And let's not forget the Right wing ldol Thatcher Several times pushed for Savile To be knighted even after ministers told her about his Activitys with Children . And she was a close and personal friend of Savile end off
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 13, 2024 12:38:54 GMT
[br? Ha ha more knonsence from a right winger Are you a Supporter of Boris Johnson by any Chance if so that explains a lot.. You are Big Fat Liar if you say the Savile case never got to Starmer, a high profile 'celebrity' like Jimmy Savile will 110% landed on Starmer's desk.
He was FULLY aware of Savile when he was questioned under caution by Surrey Police in 2009, why are you lying, and why are you so desperate to cover up Starmer's failings?
Oh my last time I answer such. Persistent lies. Yes stammer was aware of the Alligedge Accusations against Savile. He would have allowed the investigation to happen. But no Charges was made by the Investigating police force So Sir Keir can't bring charges And I'm still waiting on my response of several times when I said that the Conservative Government was in charge when Savile was at the height of his abuse and there was plenty of Accusations. But brought no investigation. At least under Sir Starmer there was one opened. And let's not forget the Right wing ldol Thatcher Several times pushed for Savile To be knighted even after ministers told her about his Activitys with Children . And she was a close and personal friend of Savile end off
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 13, 2024 12:41:22 GMT
[br? Ha ha more knonsence from a right winger Are you a Supporter of Boris Johnson by any Chance if so that explains a lot.. Are you denying the fact that Sir Keir Starmer (aka Sir Kneeler/special pension rules just for him etc) was DPP at the relevant time of the CPS failed to prosecute Saville? Are you aware (obviously not so its a rhetorical question) that the DPP is the boss of the CPS ,( which authorises criminal prosecutions) , so is responsible for all work of the CPS. The buck always stops with the boss As an aside if you do not accept the above facts Do you honestly believe that in the event of a potential very serious criminal charge against a household name , very famous, celebrity the decision is not referred to the boss and at no time passed across his desk? To remind you The buck always stops with the boss I'd hazard a guess it went something like this ..
Police: This case needs to go to the highest level
CPS: We'll give it to the boss DPP Starmer
DPP: Starmer, "just say not enough evidence, and bury the case, Savile has threatened if he goes down he's taking every one with him, including MPs Royals, high profile celebs who are also kiddy fiddlers, just let him go"
... Or words to that effect ^^
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 13, 2024 12:44:53 GMT
[br? Ha ha more knonsence from a right winger Are you a Supporter of Boris Johnson by any Chance if so that explains a lot.. Are you the missing link lefty old bean? You ain't human and that's for sure. What link is that Sir Keir Starmer. Was found by a investigation looking into the police Mishandling of the police and local CPS Lawers into Savile case They concluded that Sir Starmer wasn't involved in the decision not to bring charges. Let that sink in.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 13, 2024 12:45:16 GMT
Starmer is a liar and should be called out.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 13, 2024 12:47:05 GMT
Are you the missing link lefty old bean? You ain't human and that's for sure. What link is that Sir Keir Starmer. Was found by a investigation looking into the police Mishandling of the police and local CPS Lawers into Savile case They concluded that Sir Starmer wasn't involved in the decision not to bring charges. Let that sink in.
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Post by ratcliff on Jan 13, 2024 12:47:42 GMT
You are Big Fat Liar if you say the Savile case never got to Starmer, a high profile 'celebrity' like Jimmy Savile will 110% landed on Starmer's desk.
He was FULLY aware of Savile when he was questioned under caution by Surrey Police in 2009, why are you lying, and why are you so desperate to cover up Starmer's failings?
Oh my last time I answer such. Persistent lies. Yes stammer was aware of the Alligedge Accusations against Savile. He would have allowed the investigation to happen. But no Charges was made by the Investigating police force So Sir Keir can't bring charges And I'm still waiting on my response of several times when I said that the Conservative Government was in charge when Savile was at the height of his abuse and there was plenty of Accusations. But brought no investigation. At least under Sir Starmer there was one opened. And let's not forget the Right wing ldol Thatcher Several times pushed for Savile To be knighted even after ministers told her about his Activitys with Children . And she was a close and personal friend of Savile end off You are wrong - again The police cannot bring charges on their own, that's the CPS job Sir Keir was boss of the CPS
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 13, 2024 12:49:49 GMT
Let's look at the points I raised Shall we No - lets hear you answer the question rather than yet another tedious rewriting of history. What sectors of the economy in Wales do you believe Labour has run better than the Tories in England. Seeing were talking about running. Country has a whole think that has no bearing on the discussion and dosent prove my findings wrong. But if you want to Compare look at the left wing Government of Scotland. How they provide a better health service then England and so on.
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 13, 2024 12:52:48 GMT
Oh my last time I answer such. Persistent lies. Yes stammer was aware of the Alligedge Accusations against Savile. He would have allowed the investigation to happen. But no Charges was made by the Investigating police force So Sir Keir can't bring charges And I'm still waiting on my response of several times when I said that the Conservative Government was in charge when Savile was at the height of his abuse and there was plenty of Accusations. But brought no investigation. At least under Sir Starmer there was one opened. And let's not forget the Right wing ldol Thatcher Several times pushed for Savile To be knighted even after ministers told her about his Activitys with Children . And she was a close and personal friend of Savile end off You are wrong - again The police cannot bring charges on their own, that's the CPS job Sir Keir was boss of the CPS Oh my the Lawer for the CPS decided not to bring Charges Not Sir Starmer let that sink in
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Post by thomas on Jan 13, 2024 12:54:21 GMT
No - lets hear you answer the question rather than yet another tedious rewriting of history. What sectors of the economy in Wales do you believe Labour has run better than the Tories in England. Seeing were talking about running. Country has a whole think that has no bearing on the discussion and dosent prove my findings wrong. But if you want to Compare look at the left wing Government of Scotland. How they provide a better health service then England and so on. Why is it in practically every single sector , the labour run welsh nation is behind the tories in England , and the snp in Scotland ?
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Post by Vinny on Jan 13, 2024 12:54:58 GMT
There will be a Labour government at some point, it is part of the cycle, but the thing is this, Starmer is the man who cost Labour the last election.
He ignored Labour's heartlands and cost Labour the red wall. He is not the man to lead the country.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 13, 2024 12:57:59 GMT
Starmer, How can we have a man running our country who is a confounded LIAR
Not just a LIAR, but also a corrupt liar, he knew about Savile, he knew about the Post Office scandal, he had a word with his mates to get him off the hook with Beergate, he's a dishonest, lying, double standard hypocrite, that's what you're getting when you get Starmer.
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Post by thomas on Jan 13, 2024 13:02:07 GMT
There will be a Labour government at some point, it is part of the cycle, but the thing is this, Starmer is the man who cost Labour the last election. He ignored Labour's heartlands and cost Labour the red wall. He is not the man to lead the country. This has been pointed out time and again , it was starmer who came up with the bright Brexit strategy for corbyns labour in 2019 , and pissed off the 62% of labour constituencies who voted Brexit . Corbyn , an out and out anti European of the old labour brigade , got the blame for stammers puerile strategy. He has nothing to offer anyone in any of the uk nations , a complete clown of a man who will possibly fall into government because of the anti democratic political system and two party stitch up. Never , in the run up to any uk general election , have I seen the two main British parties so despised as they are at this moment in time. pollsters are saying this could be the lowest turnout in uk general election history , such is the voter apathy. When starmer falls into power (possibly) and nothing much changes , what then?
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 13, 2024 13:02:20 GMT
Going by what they say on Labour blogs, I would say the main thing is they would not stuff their own pockets. You see Labour think the Tories just hand contracts and jobs to their mates and that is why everything fucks up. They also think the should pay some tax rather than offshoring it. Westminster Accounts: Labour and Starmer have accepted thousands from major Just Stop Oil donor.
Labour MP received £500,000 in funding from Chinese Communist agent
Gordon Brown’s office took Russian bank’s money.
Details of Tony Blair’s Dealings With Kazakhstan Leaked
The Mandelson loan scandal
Out of those The Chinese one is the United Front Works Department which is a kind of Chinese PR agency, so quite harmless. It's trying to develop better international relations.
The JSO one is more concerning since they are buying domestic policy which affects us.
Mandelson is suspect since he was hanging around with Epstein, and a Russian oligarch.
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 13, 2024 13:04:49 GMT
Seeing were talking about running. Country has a whole think that has no bearing on the discussion and dosent prove my findings wrong. But if you want to Compare look at the left wing Government of Scotland. How they provide a better health service then England and so on. Why is it in practically every single sector , the labour run welsh nation is behind the tories in England , and the snp in Scotland ? Because wales has a older population then England and Scotland. That obviously puts more pressure on the NHS system in Wales. And also put pressure on Economy and so On . Has your probley a SNP supporter or a supporter of the other party advocating Independent Scotland. Your left leaning and don't understand how you can support a right wing Govenment over labour. But it Seems where you Far left share Common Ground.
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