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Post by zanygame on Jan 9, 2024 7:49:04 GMT
Thanks Jonsky. Really good article. Once you get past the Daily Express spin bit. Its about British industry saying there are big opportunities if the government starts lowering interest rates. Well yes I agree there. Raising interest rates to lower inflation caused by foreign oil, gas and food prices was stupid in the first place. Sure its stopped inflation but only by killing the economy. you have a better way? Yep. Artificially keep fuel and food prices down for those on lower pay until the costs stabilise. This would have kept wage demands down and not driven inflation and the need to raise interest rates and cripple the economy. In the end we would all be better off including the government. The other way would be increase taxes instead of interest rates. Raising your taxes by £700 a month would hurt those with mortgages but also those without, would not harm the poorest but would harm the richest. It would have the effect of cooling demand just as do interest rate hikes but would at least allow government to pay down some of its debt rather than just make rich men even richer. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 9, 2024 8:00:53 GMT
You can avoid taxes, you cannot avoid interest rates so that would be damaging to the economy for no reason at all.
As for cheaper food and fuel for the low paid - I cant think of anything that would be a greater disincentive to work.
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Post by see2 on Jan 9, 2024 10:29:33 GMT
Oh dear remainers.... World class' Brexit Britain smashes EUSSR to claim new global status in Rejoiner hammer blow.
I read a lot of claims by 'Make UK', I'm still waiting for the results from those claims. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 9, 2024 10:38:53 GMT
Arguments before the referendum included lies mainly by those who voted Leave. I think the referendum itself, regardless of who won, is a permanent stain on the UKs reputation for fairness. Most of the 'arguments' by Remainers are usually about faults and failures so far, and IMO, as a remainer, Those who voted to leave should be big enough to take any truthful criticisms. I haven't seen many "truthful criticisms" on this forum about any of the alleged failings of Brexit. I have seen though, that the doom mongers who told us the world would nigh on end if we dared leave the EU, haven't changed their tact. Even though they were horrendously wrong with their dire predictions. The trickle of doom mongers are well outweighed by the lies and insinuations told about the EU by the Outers. I don't know where those 'doom mongers' are today, but I do know that the promises that all we had to do was to leave and everything would be great, is taking a long time to come about. And there is still the problem of Northern \ Ireland. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 9, 2024 10:46:31 GMT
Brexit Britain is fine. The whinging and whining hasn't stopped because certain people didn't get their own way back in 2016. These bunny boilers will look for any confirmation bias on dubious grounds to promote their ire at Brexit. Their arguments are as bad now as they were prior to the referendum. The project of pessimism and fear has failed them, yet they learn nothing. There is no point in whinging about Brexit, Brexit is a fact. There is nothing to compare with the lies, the whinging and the whining of the Outers before the Referendum. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 9, 2024 10:46:45 GMT
I haven't seen many "truthful criticisms" on this forum about any of the alleged failings of Brexit. I have seen though, that the doom mongers who told us the world would nigh on end if we dared leave the EU, haven't changed their tact. Even though they were horrendously wrong with their dire predictions. The trickle of doom mongers are well outweighed by the lies and insinuations told about the EU by the Outers. I don't know where those 'doom mongers' are today, but I do know that the promises that all we had to do was to leave and everything would be great, is taking a long time to come about. And there is still the problem of Northern \ Ireland. The avalanche of doom mongers and naysayers keeps on rolling to this very day. Desperate to be proved right, they're still fighting like those two Japanese soldiers in the Indonesian jungle who hadn't realised their nation had already lost the war. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 9, 2024 10:56:29 GMT
You can avoid taxes, you cannot avoid interest rates so that would be damaging to the economy for no reason at all. As for cheaper food and fuel for the low paid - I cant think of anything that would be a greater disincentive to work. Cheaper food and fuel is a DISINCENTIVE?? People might start to think that it might be possible to support themselves if they work. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 9, 2024 10:58:12 GMT
The trickle of doom mongers are well outweighed by the lies and insinuations told about the EU by the Outers. I don't know where those 'doom mongers' are today, but I do know that the promises that all we had to do was to leave and everything would be great, is taking a long time to come about. And there is still the problem of Northern \ Ireland. The avalanche of doom mongers and naysayers keeps on rolling to this very day. Desperate to be proved right, they're still fighting like those two Japanese soldiers in the Indonesian jungle who hadn't realised their nation had already lost the war. They dont have to fight that they were r9ght. They are spending enough time fighting for a decent standard of living. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 9, 2024 11:00:07 GMT
The avalanche of doom mongers and naysayers keeps on rolling to this very day. Desperate to be proved right, they're still fighting like those two Japanese soldiers in the Indonesian jungle who hadn't realised their nation had already lost the war. They dont have to fight that they were r9ght. They are spending enough time fighting for a decent standard of living. They were wrong then as they are now. You are just sad and bitter. I can't help that love. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 9, 2024 11:02:34 GMT
Thanks Jonsky. Really good article. Once you get past the Daily Express spin bit. Its about British industry saying there are big opportunities if the government starts lowering interest rates. Well yes I agree there. Raising interest rates to lower inflation caused by foreign oil, gas and food prices was stupid in the first place. Sure its stopped inflation but only by killing the economy. No news is good news for any ardent remaniners.
Italy calls for EUSSR Army - proving Brexiteers absolutely right, says Michael Heaver....
The idea of an EU army is inevitable sooner or later. Any united group of successful close knit countries (which is the aim of the EU) would eventually need to be able to protect itself. But GB garbage news about a call for an EU army by one EU country is the proof of anything is just silly. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 9, 2024 11:06:21 GMT
The trickle of doom mongers are well outweighed by the lies and insinuations told about the EU by the Outers. I don't know where those 'doom mongers' are today, but I do know that the promises that all we had to do was to leave and everything would be great, is taking a long time to come about. And there is still the problem of Northern \ Ireland. The avalanche of doom mongers and naysayers keeps on rolling to this very day. Desperate to be proved right, they're still fighting like those two Japanese soldiers in the Indonesian jungle who hadn't realised their nation had already lost the war. "the avalanche of doom mongers and naysayers keeps on rolling to this very day". Lets stay within the realms of reality. Who is claiming that Brexit will inevitably mean the destruction of the UK economy? |
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Post by see2 on Jan 9, 2024 11:18:22 GMT
Oh dear remainers.... World class' Brexit Britain smashes EUSSR to claim new global status in Rejoiner hammer blow.
Thanks Jonsky. Really good article. Once you get past the Daily Express spin bit. Its about British industry saying there are big opportunities if the government starts lowering interest rates. Well yes I agree there. Raising interest rates to lower inflation caused by foreign oil, gas and food prices was stupid in the first place. Sure its stopped inflation but only by killing the economy. Clarification. The government do not control Inflation the control of inflation was handed to the Bank of England by Gordon Brown in order to stop governments using inflation and deflation (boom and bust) to control the economy. The aim was to help create a more stable economy. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 9, 2024 11:40:59 GMT
Thanks Jonsky. Really good article. Once you get past the Daily Express spin bit. Its about British industry saying there are big opportunities if the government starts lowering interest rates. Well yes I agree there. Raising interest rates to lower inflation caused by foreign oil, gas and food prices was stupid in the first place. Sure its stopped inflation but only by killing the economy. Clarification. The government do not control Inflation the control of inflation was handed to the Bank of England by Gordon Brown in order to stop governments using inflation and deflation (boom and bust) to control the economy. The aim was to help create a more stable economy. Well, look how that's worked over the last decade, with appalling forecasting and policy records. The BoE has blamed just about everything else on inflation apart from itself. Living off ultra-low interest rates for the past last ten years to pumping billions upon billions into the economy has exacerbated inflation, not controlled it. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 9, 2024 14:05:24 GMT
The . Desperate to be proved right, they're still fighting like those two Japanese soldiers in the Indonesian jungle who hadn't realised their nation had already lost the war. "the avalanche of doom mongers and naysayers keeps on rolling to this very day". Lets stay within the realms of reality. Who is claiming that Brexit will inevitably mean the destruction of the UK economy? Who ever did? Even Bucks should be able to tell the difference between destruction and damage. Even he can count syllables. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 9, 2024 14:35:37 GMT
EUSSR says it wants a MILLION migrants every single YEAR: 'It's not enough'
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