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Post by see2 on Jan 25, 2024 9:59:19 GMT
--"Equality Act provisions which came into force on 1 October 2010: "the basic framework of protection against direct and indirect discrimination, harassment and victimisation in services and public functions, premi, work, education, associations and transport". Not sure of just what point you are making. You can say what the stated intent of an act is but one has to consider what it does in its practical application. It does not form a basic protection for all the above as in its clauses it clearly favours minorities especially racial minorities. The application of its powers by the EHRC is very selective in that the full force of its power is brought to bear in transgressions by the majority yet transgressions by the minorities are largely ignored. This is most apparent in the allowances for associations and pressure groups as well as political parties. The Equality duty incumbent on all public bodies actually works to the detriment of the racial majority if one couples its clauses with what is actually happening in society and the country at large and the upshot, if followed to its logical conclusion, will be the relegation of the racial majority to also rans in their country within a couple of generations. There is no other ethnic group in the world that would allow this to happen to them without some form of resistance as history shows only too clearly enacted out over the years in Ireland and the ME to name but two obvious cases. You mean it includes everyone. Thanks for your opinion, but I have to say I disagree with it. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 25, 2024 10:01:57 GMT
The EU have left themselves wide open to abuse by Putin. I wonder whose idea that was?  The picture you post shows just how willing you are to insinuate. |
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Post by sandypine on Jan 25, 2024 11:20:01 GMT
You can say what the stated intent of an act is but one has to consider what it does in its practical application. It does not form a basic protection for all the above as in its clauses it clearly favours minorities especially racial minorities. The application of its powers by the EHRC is very selective in that the full force of its power is brought to bear in transgressions by the majority yet transgressions by the minorities are largely ignored. This is most apparent in the allowances for associations and pressure groups as well as political parties. The Equality duty incumbent on all public bodies actually works to the detriment of the racial majority if one couples its clauses with what is actually happening in society and the country at large and the upshot, if followed to its logical conclusion, will be the relegation of the racial majority to also rans in their country within a couple of generations. There is no other ethnic group in the world that would allow this to happen to them without some form of resistance as history shows only too clearly enacted out over the years in Ireland and the ME to name but two obvious cases. You mean it includes everyone. Thanks for your opinion, but I have to say I disagree with it. If it allows exclusion of people based on a characteristic, and it does, then how is that including everyone? |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 25, 2024 12:04:11 GMT
Maybe the arsehole micron should use some of the cash he has embezzled from the UK for stopping third world crap cominng to oir shore.
France begs Britain for taxpayer cash as its attempts to find money for nuclear project.
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 25, 2024 12:48:59 GMT
Maybe the arsehole micron should use some of the cash he has embezzled from the UK for stopping third world crap cominng to oir shore.
France begs Britain for taxpayer cash as its attempts to find money for nuclear project.
OK. Go build your own. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 25, 2024 14:45:49 GMT
UK stock market's 20-year nightmare is OVER. Now it's set to smash US and EUSSR...
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Post by thomas on Jan 26, 2024 8:57:46 GMT
empty soundbite for the gullible. Well it is longer than the litany of three word alliterative slogans the Tories have tried to brainwash the public with. ok but why tel me ? im not a tory voter , and im not defending the tories on their shambolic record , merely pointing out labour aren't the answer and that their empty soundbite slogans are best left for those daft enough to believe them. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 26, 2024 11:11:17 GMT
Unfortunately daftness is spread right across the political spectrum.
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Post by see2 on Jan 26, 2024 14:14:20 GMT
You mean it includes everyone. Thanks for your opinion, but I have to say I disagree with it. If it allows exclusion of people based on a characteristic, and it does, then how is that including everyone? What characteristic? |
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Post by see2 on Jan 26, 2024 14:28:08 GMT
Well it is longer than the litany of three word alliterative slogans the Tories have tried to brainwash the public with. ok but why tel me ? im not a tory voter , and im not defending the tories on their shambolic record , merely pointing out labour aren't the answer and that their empty soundbite slogans are best left for those daft enough to believe them. You will not be in a position to pass an informed opinion on Labour's soundbites until they prove to be good or bad. You OPINION proves nothing. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 26, 2024 15:08:05 GMT
ok but why tel me ? im not a tory voter , and im not defending the tories on their shambolic record , merely pointing out labour aren't the answer and that their empty soundbite slogans are best left for those daft enough to believe them. You will not be in a position to pass an informed opinion on Labour's soundbites until they prove to be good or bad. You OPINION proves nothing. my opinion on this forum is as valid as yours , and we are discussing quite obviously labours previous record in power , across this forum , and of course their current record in Wales where they sadly remain. Looking ahead though , the average of the last few polls for the next general election has a turnout of around 50%. Arguably , this would give keir starmer and your dodgy new Labour Party , if they win , the weakest government on the lowest democratic mandate in uk electoral history of the modern era. Keir starmer has spent the last few years sitting on his hands , trying desperately to say and do nothing. Eventually , if he does indeed fall into place ,he will of course have to come out the bunker and start making decisions , and then I , and everyone else , will judge him accordingly. Make no mistake , we will be here pointing the finger at his every move. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 26, 2024 15:35:27 GMT
UK stock market's 20-year nightmare is OVER. Now it's set to smash US and EUSSR...
All going rather well so far. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 26, 2024 17:34:46 GMT
UK stock market's 20-year nightmare is OVER. Now it's set to smash US and EUSSR...
All going rather well so far. Its good to see the remainers pay the price for project fear Vinny... |
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Post by sandypine on Jan 26, 2024 18:10:40 GMT
If it allows exclusion of people based on a characteristic, and it does, then how is that including everyone? What characteristic? A 'protected' characteristic. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 26, 2024 19:05:06 GMT
You will not be in a position to pass an informed opinion on Labour's soundbites until they prove to be good or bad. You OPINION proves nothing. Looking ahead though , the average of the last few polls for the next general election has a turnout of around 50%. Arguably , this would give keir starmer and your dodgy new Labour Party , if they win , the weakest government on the lowest democratic mandate in uk electoral history of the modern era. Keir starmer has spent the last few years sitting on his hands , trying desperately to say and do nothing. Eventually , if he does indeed fall into place ,he will of course have to come out the bunker and start making decisions , and then I , and everyone else , will judge him accordingly. Make no mistake , we will be here pointing the finger at his every move. Yes of course, but there isn't much point in discussing opinions. Do you fully understand what's going on in Wales, and why they apparently prefer Labour control rather than anything else that's on offer ? If you don't then perhaps you should stop whinging on their behalf. New Labour's period in power was brilliant compared to the 18 years of Tory government that preceded it. It very much appears to be the case that you have sucked in any and all anti-NL propaganda as fast as you can. The number of voters that turn out vary from election to election. The winner still has to run the country. The last few years has seen a number of changes that point to necessary changes in the priorities of the next government. It would not matter what Labour had done in the last few years, you appear to have a deep emotional need to denigrate Labour, and that is not Logical debate, nor is it political debate. I hope you begin to practice logical political debate i.e. Criticize where criticism is due, and give credit where credit is due. |
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