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Post by Vinny on Jan 22, 2024 22:17:42 GMT
Roads are not subsidised - the receipts from VAT on vehicles, Road tax and Fuel duty is massively over what is spent on the roads. Driving on the roads subsidies other areas of the economy, trains perhaps. What next VAT on tractors subsidises farming. How tenuous can you get. Roads are not tolled, so they are paid for out of the public purse, doesn't matter how. The private sector pays for the public sector. Work it out. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 23, 2024 7:20:21 GMT
What next VAT on tractors subsidises farming. How tenuous can you get. Roads are not tolled, so they are paid for out of the public purse, doesn't matter how. The private sector pays for the public sector. Work it out. The public sector is paid for through taxation, borrowing and government bond issues. Not to mention arms sales. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 23, 2024 8:26:10 GMT
ok Steve , fair enough. I too am not going to get into a long winded argument regarding the minimum wage. Im simply offering my own opinion , and further rubbishing the fact labour are somehow the champions of the downtrodden wage earner. They aren't.They ceased to be that when New Labour took over. They are in fact now the party of affluent middle class liberal homeowners who have done well out of the Thacherite status quo, and hold the workers largely in contempt. They have bought into the thatcherite economic consensus lock, stock and barrel, and are currently run by a bunch of charlatans, shysters, and proven liars. the refusal to pay equal wages to female council workers in Glasgow Steve carried on under Corbyn's leadership. throw muck at the blairites when its due , but lets no paint all that is rotten on them alone in the Labour Party. Corbyn's branch manager , Rickie Leonard , who led labour in Scotland at the time , was one of the gmb head union officials who co ordinated with the labour leadership to do everything in his and the unions power to obstruct and hamper the woman's claims , and then , when labour lost Glasgow council in 2017 , Leonard , went onto the picket lines to protest and try and push the blame for labours decades old debacle onto the incoming snp administration. The whole party by and large is scum. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 23, 2024 8:29:18 GMT
So much bitterness from bad losers.
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Post by thomas on Jan 23, 2024 8:40:21 GMT
who are you talking about Vinny? all this time on the forum and you haven't learned to use the quote tags yet?
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Post by zanygame on Jan 23, 2024 9:23:31 GMT
What next VAT on tractors subsidises farming. How tenuous can you get. Roads are not tolled, so they are paid for out of the public purse, doesn't matter how. The private sector pays for the public sector. Work it out. Is it that you are being pointlessly rude? |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 23, 2024 9:37:51 GMT
Nope, just pointing out how important the private sector is.
It is absolutely vital that we build up our industries and scale back the apparatus of the state.
There are just under half a million civil servants. The average wage is £30,110.
That's a £14.9bn wage bill to the taxpayer.
Why do we need almost half a million of them?
Scaling back to 20% of current workforce and the bill could be lowered to £2.98 billion per year.
With that money we could either pay off national debt, or hire a lot more soldiers.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 23, 2024 10:28:43 GMT
'The last straw' for farmers in the EUSSR: 'Work isn't appreciated, no prospects for family farms'
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Post by jonksy on Jan 23, 2024 11:40:27 GMT
Lord Frost pinpoints £300bn Brexit win you probably never noticed as 'absurd' EUSSR rule axed..
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Post by zanygame on Jan 23, 2024 17:15:41 GMT
Nope, just pointing out how important the private sector is. It is absolutely vital that we build up our industries and scale back the apparatus of the state. There are just under half a million civil servants. The average wage is £30,110. That's a £14.9bn wage bill to the taxpayer. Why do we need almost half a million of them? Scaling back to 20% of current workforce and the bill could be lowered to £2.98 billion per year. With that money we could either pay off national debt, or hire a lot more soldiers. 1 civil servant for every 150 people. is that so bad? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2024 18:33:11 GMT
'The last straw' for farmers in the EUSSR: 'Work isn't appreciated, no prospects for family farms'
Why are you so obsessed with the EU when we are nit in it anymore? Is it an addiction? An obsession? |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 23, 2024 19:02:21 GMT
'The last straw' for farmers in the EUSSR: 'Work isn't appreciated, no prospects for family farms'
Why are you so obsessed with the EU when we are nit in it anymore? Is it an addiction? An obsession?I just like to watch them rip themselves apart and they are making a fine job of it...I think you will find its those like you srb who are still in mourning over their loss....FFS how much longer will your grief last? |
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Post by see2 on Jan 23, 2024 19:11:50 GMT
ok Steve , fair enough. I too am not going to get into a long winded argument regarding the minimum wage. Im simply offering my own opinion , and further rubbishing the fact labour are somehow the champions of the downtrodden wage earner. They aren't.They ceased to be that when New Labour took over. They are in fact now the party of affluent middle class liberal homeowners who have done well out of the Thacherite status quo, and hold the workers largely in contempt. They have bought into the thatcherite economic consensus lock, stock and barrel, and are currently run by a bunch of charlatans, shysters, and proven liars. Under New Labour "for the many not the few" meant just that. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 23, 2024 19:19:56 GMT
They ceased to be that when New Labour took over. They are in fact now the party of affluent middle class liberal homeowners who have done well out of the Thacherite status quo, and hold the workers largely in contempt. They have bought into the thatcherite economic consensus lock, stock and barrel, and are currently run by a bunch of charlatans, shysters, and proven liars. Under New Labour "for the many not the few" meant just that. empty soundbite for the gullible. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 23, 2024 19:27:39 GMT
Under New Labour "for the many not the few" meant just that. empty soundbite for the gullible. That is so untrue. You could check out State education and the NHS for starters. Both for the many not the few. |
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