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Post by see2 on Nov 10, 2022 23:24:19 GMT
In referring to the long past etymology/origin of the word, you have missed the point you tried to claim earlier. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 11, 2022 0:14:51 GMT
In referring to the long past etymology/origin of the word, you have missed the point you tried to claim earlier. I was just having a bit of a laugh. Who cares - it is hardly serious. The conversations in this country are like those of little children. I have to bend down to become attentive to it. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 11, 2022 9:26:40 GMT
In referring to the long past etymology/origin of the word, you have missed the point you tried to claim earlier. I was just having a bit of a laugh. Who cares - it is hardly serious. The conversations in this country are like those of little children. I have to bend down to become attentive to it. I see you slipping into a typical right-wing denigration mode. Using the escape routes of undefined; Lefty, Woke and general denigration is, apart from encouraging dishonest political attitudes, the hiding place of those on the right of politics who do not have the intellect to debate problems. But just wish to impose their own opinions on everyone else. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 11, 2022 9:29:50 GMT
I was just having a bit of a laugh. Who cares - it is hardly serious. The conversations in this country are like those of little children. I have to bend down to become attentive to it. I see you slipping into a typical right-wing denigration mode. Using the escape routes of undefined; Lefty, Woke and general denigration is, apart from encouraging dishonest political attitudes, the hiding place of those on the right of politics who do not have the intellect to debate problems. But just wish to impose their own opinions on everyone else. I am guessing as paid up member of woke, you don't see irony in what you posted? |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 11, 2022 9:30:52 GMT
I didn’t . You can’t refute it and found a way not to try . Now read it slowly and try a bit harder . You posted __" If lefties are over sensitive towards other points of view and consider themselves woke then why not define woke as being an over sensitive leftie or leftie over sensitive point of view?"__ I think a little explanation is required. The term 'Leftie' is far too often loosely and derogatively used apparently by right-wingers, without evidence, when attacking points of view they disagree with. Why would anyone, let alone people making left of centre comments think they were Woke? Especially when the term is used in a broad-brush way of insulting anything the right disagrees with. The term Leftie and the term Woke are repeatedly misused Only when it suits you . No doubt you huffed and puffed when the word ‘ Gay ‘ was generally accepted as meaning homosexual and got puffed even more about the use of ‘ queer’ . In fact the word ‘ queer’ was a derogatory term at first. You can whine as much as you like , you will change nothing . |
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Post by see2 on Nov 11, 2022 9:43:40 GMT
You posted __" If lefties are over sensitive towards other points of view and consider themselves woke then why not define woke as being an over sensitive leftie or leftie over sensitive point of view?"__ I think a little explanation is required. The term 'Leftie' is far too often loosely and derogatively used apparently by right-wingers, without evidence, when attacking points of view they disagree with. Why would anyone, let alone people making left of centre comments think they were Woke? Especially when the term is used in a broad-brush way of insulting anything the right disagrees with. The term Leftie and the term Woke are repeatedly misused Only when it suits you . No doubt you huffed and puffed when the word ‘ Gay ‘ was generally accepted as meaning homosexual and got puffed even more about the use of ‘ queer’ . In fact the word ‘ queer’ was a derogatory term at first. You can whine as much as you like , you will change nothing . ? I am not remotely interested in your misguided unproveable opinionated accusations. If you can't do better than using your imagination to whine and denigrate, then perhaps you should just shut up at least until you remember that this is a debating forum. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 11, 2022 9:52:37 GMT
I see you slipping into a typical right-wing denigration mode. Using the escape routes of undefined; Lefty, Woke and general denigration is, apart from encouraging dishonest political attitudes, the hiding place of those on the right of politics who do not have the intellect to debate problems. But just wish to impose their own opinions on everyone else. I am guessing as paid up member of woke, you don't see irony in what you posted? Are you posting that you are a "paid up member of woke" or that I am? If you are claiming that I am a "paid up member of woke" that is in woke as distorted by many right-wingers, I would have to ask why are you guessing and posting a lie about me? |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 11, 2022 9:56:56 GMT
I am guessing as paid up member of woke, you don't see irony in what you posted? Are you posting that you are a "paid up member of woke" or that I am? If you are claiming that I am a "paid up member of woke" that is in woke as distorted by many right-wingers, I would have to ask why are you guessing and posting a lie about me? LOL but you keep yelling woke is misunderstood, so that can only mean you have it all sussed, now you say I am telling lies, yet you also scream right wingers at every opportunity as though they are the enemy. Or as in a force of anti-woke. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 11, 2022 9:57:07 GMT
Only when it suits you . No doubt you huffed and puffed when the word ‘ Gay ‘ was generally accepted as meaning homosexual and got puffed even more about the use of ‘ queer’ . In fact the word ‘ queer’ was a derogatory term at first. You can whine as much as you like , you will change nothing . ? I am not remotely interested in your misguided unproveable opinionated accusations. If you can't do better than using your imagination to whine and denigrate, then perhaps you should just shut up at least until you remember that this is a debating forum. Yes you are. You are whining about a fact of language . Words mean whatever people want them to mean . Language changes . An old fart whining about how people he doesn’t like uses language will not change a thing . Another thing that probably won’t change is aforesaid old fart projecting his own faults and mirroring parts of others post. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 11, 2022 10:12:09 GMT
Only when it suits me? I am not remotely interested in your misguided unproveable opinionated accusations. If you can't do better than using your imagination to whine and denigrate, then perhaps you should just shut up at least until you remember that this is a debating forum. Yes you are. You are whining about a fact of language . Words mean whatever people want them to mean . Language changes . An old fart whining about how people he doesn’t like uses language will not change a thing . Another thing that probably won’t change is aforesaid old fart projecting his own faults and mirroring parts of others post. Bloody hell, I can smell your stench from here, you need to remove the typical right-wing denigrating nastiness in your posts. Going by your posts, you do enjoy whining, it gives me a chuckle to see the desperation in your posts. I do like pointing out how some right-wingers will look for and always seem to find, ways of opinionated broad brush denigration of things and people who challenge their right-wing silly needs. Very immature of them. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 11, 2022 10:32:05 GMT
Are you posting that you are a "paid up member of woke" or that I am? If you are claiming that I am a "paid up member of woke" that is in woke as distorted by many right-wingers, I would have to ask why are you guessing and posting a lie about me? LOL but you keep yelling woke is misunderstood, so that can only mean you have it all sussed, now you say I am telling lies, yet you also scream right wingers at every opportunity as though they are the enemy. Or as in a force of anti-woke. You need to drop your bias before you put your posts together, then perhaps you will not indulge in the use of your imagination so much. I am stating that Woke is often misused and that it is often used as a short-cut way of broad brushing, denigrating and dismissing the opinions of others, instead of debating them. It seems to me that the denigrating use of the term woke might fit those of whatever party that take extreme actions in the name of fairness or 'rightness', but not in the extreme broad-brush way it is used by right-wing posters. I draw attention to the derogative antics of right-wingers, and that seems to aggravate you which seems to put you in the misguided camp of right-wingers. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 11, 2022 10:34:20 GMT
LOL but you keep yelling woke is misunderstood, so that can only mean you have it all sussed, now you say I am telling lies, yet you also scream right wingers at every opportunity as though they are the enemy. Or as in a force of anti-woke. You need to drop your bias before you put your posts together, then perhaps you will not indulge in the use of your imagination so much. I am stating that Woke is often misused and that it is often used as a short-cut way of broad brushing, denigrating and dismissing the opinions of others, instead of debating them. It seems to me that the denigrating use of the term woke might fit those of whatever party that take extreme actions in the name of fairness or 'rightness', but not in the extreme broad-brush way it is used by right-wing posters. I draw attention to the derogative antics of right-wingers, and that seems to aggravate you which seems to put you in the misguided camp of right-wingers. Firstly I wouldn't tell me how I should think, I will make up my own mind junior, then act accordingly when I have decided. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 11, 2022 10:39:16 GMT
You need to drop your bias before you put your posts together, then perhaps you will not indulge in the use of your imagination so much. I am stating that Woke is often misused and that it is often used as a short-cut way of broad brushing, denigrating and dismissing the opinions of others, instead of debating them. It seems to me that the denigrating use of the term woke might fit those of whatever party that take extreme actions in the name of fairness or 'rightness', but not in the extreme broad-brush way it is used by right-wing posters. I draw attention to the derogative antics of right-wingers, and that seems to aggravate you which seems to put you in the misguided camp of right-wingers. Firstly I wouldn't tell me how I should think, I will make up my own mind junior, then act accordingly when I have decided. You shouldn't be distorting my posts claiming that I have done things I have not done or posting things that I have claimed when I have not. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 11, 2022 10:42:21 GMT
Firstly I wouldn't tell me how I should think, I will make up my own mind junior, then act accordingly when I have decided. You shouldn't be distorting my posts claiming that I have done things I have not done or posting things that I have claimed when I have not. I never distorted anything junior, I made a point of laughing at the irony, in your own post that went completely over your head. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 11, 2022 10:50:13 GMT
Woke: An umbrella term for self-righteous, left-wing ideologues obsessed by (often artificial) social justice issues relating to race, sexuality or gender. The woke consider themselves custodians of the moral high ground. Typical woke behaviours include advocating for the special treatment of minorities, denigration of the white working class and the promotion of mental illnesses as the norm. Woke is a politically correct narrative based on Marxist principles and is therefore intolerant to challenge. It often manifests as a pretentious demonstration of care for the supposed victims of social injustice (see also Virtue Signalling) although is often accompanied by an obsessive, blinkered or extreme approach to the same. Examples: White, middle-class people who pretend to hold opinions that they imagine a black working class person might hold. The belief that a man can be a woman. The tendency to see racism in everything in order to cast black people as victims who can then only be saved by the woke (see also Social Justice Warrior).
There, I think that pretty much covers it. 
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