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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 16:42:17 GMT
Exposing the ill-informed like yourself is part of the reason why I posted the OP. I suppose you didn't bother to read what the word woke actually means, or how the word is abused by people like yourself. Word meanings change. We can never win back gay as a descriptive word of a type of beauty, type of dress or a feeling. It has been lost becaseu some used it to describe something. Woke is changing before our eyes and the original meaning has been lost as it now embodies a description of something that is not at all involved with injustice and anti racism. It looks more like a foolish set of beliefs and attitudes and that is starting to stick. Yes, and once upon a time it may have just meant to remain aware. Today it's just another Communist hijacked thing that has taken over academia, and went around spreading critical race theory whilst pointing the finger at western civilisation and calling it racist. It's odd that the term is considered offensive to some people, like relying on made up stuff to call something racist is not.
It's the same with feminism. Women did want equality and on the most part this has become so in our country, but that's not enough, and to keep these ideals and movements going they have to go into the extreme and start hating men.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 10, 2022 16:44:13 GMT
If lefties are over sensitive towards other points of view and consider themselves woke then why not define woke as being an over sensitive leftie or leftie over sensitive point of view? If the more right wing commentators insisted that their views were listed as ‘ sensible ‘ then you can be pretty sure that lefties would re define the word ‘ sensible’ as having a view the right wing side of Attila the Hun.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 16:46:25 GMT
People who care about other people and their feelings. Do you care about the feelings of someone who wishes a white Britain? Yes, but I would hold a civilised conversation with them.
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Post by see2 on Nov 10, 2022 16:48:03 GMT
Exposing the ill-informed like yourself is part of the reason why I posted the OP. I suppose you didn't bother to read what the word woke actually means, or how the word is abused by people like yourself. Word meanings change. We can never win back gay as a descriptive word of a type of beauty, type of dress or a feeling. It has been lost becaseu some used it to describe something. Woke is changing before our eyes and the original meaning has been lost as it now embodies a description of something that is not at all involved with injustice and anti racism. It looks more like a foolish set of beliefs and attitudes and that is starting to stick. No. Woke is being used to insult decent people. If the nasty right-wingers get their own way and their distortions are recorded as being the true meaning of the word, then shame on you and every other mindless individual who has helped poison the use of an honest and decent word. You and others need to learn to attack the OTT actions of certain individuals and stop using woke as a broad brush using it against anything right-wingers disagree with. Right-wingers appear to be mostly sick and nasty. Remember "The Wets" ?
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Post by see2 on Nov 10, 2022 16:50:43 GMT
If lefties are over sensitive towards other points of view and consider themselves woke then why not define woke as being an over sensitive leftie or leftie over sensitive point of view? If the more right wing commentators insisted that their views were listed as ‘ sensible ‘ then you can be pretty sure that lefties would re define the word ‘ sensible’ as having a view the right wing side of Attila the Hun. "IF" After that you lost your way.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 10, 2022 16:53:12 GMT
Do you care about the feelings of someone who wishes a white Britain? Yes, but I would hold a civilised conversation with them. Most of those who are 'woke' would not hold a civilised conversation and in fact want to stop the aforementioned person having a conversation with anyone as that conversation may hurt the feelings of others. Once your conversation was over and you realised his views were at best entrenched would civility still sway your demeanour towards him? Edit I refer you the answer above by see2 as an example of how the feelings of others is of limited consequence.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 10, 2022 16:54:57 GMT
If lefties are over sensitive towards other points of view and consider themselves woke then why not define woke as being an over sensitive leftie or leftie over sensitive point of view? If the more right wing commentators insisted that their views were listed as ‘ sensible ‘ then you can be pretty sure that lefties would re define the word ‘ sensible’ as having a view the right wing side of Attila the Hun. "IF" After that you lost your way. I didn’t . You can’t refute it and found a way not to try . Now read it slowly and try a bit harder .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 16:54:59 GMT
Word meanings change. We can never win back gay as a descriptive word of a type of beauty, type of dress or a feeling. It has been lost becaseu some used it to describe something. Woke is changing before our eyes and the original meaning has been lost as it now embodies a description of something that is not at all involved with injustice and anti racism. It looks more like a foolish set of beliefs and attitudes and that is starting to stick. No. Woke is being used to insult decent people. If the nasty right-wingers get their own way and their distortions are recorded as being the true meaning of the word, then shame on you and every other mindless individual who has helped poison the use of an honest and decent word. You and others need to learn to attack the OTT actions of certain individuals and stop using woke as a broad brush using it against anything right-wingers disagree with. Right-wingers appear to be mostly sick and nasty. Remember "The Wets" ? Actual right wing individuals tend to dislike identity politics (divisive group collectivism). Those people from all backgrounds in right wing parties usually distance themselves from it.
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Post by patman post on Nov 10, 2022 17:05:10 GMT
Never use the word myself as its meaning has been high jacked by both the terminally soft and abrasive Right Wing, viewers of GBNews and Mail readers, etc…
It’s like all the isms, ists and ives attached to words by the terminally politically obsessed in their arguments.
They don’t seem to realise that their opinions would be far easier to understand if they didn’t lapse into the vogue jargon of the time…
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 17:06:47 GMT
Never use the word myself as its meaning has been high jacked by both the terminally soft and abrasive Right Wing, viewers of GBNews and Mail readers. It’s like all the isms, ists and ives attached to words by the terminally politically obsessed in their arguments. They’re opinions would be far easier to understand if they didn’t lapse into the vogue jargon of the time… What do you call it?
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Post by patman post on Nov 10, 2022 17:10:42 GMT
Why would I call it anything?
I do my best to be clear on what I mean. But there are historical references to its first use and meaning that can be googled…
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Post by sandypine on Nov 10, 2022 17:14:11 GMT
Word meanings change. We can never win back gay as a descriptive word of a type of beauty, type of dress or a feeling. It has been lost becaseu some used it to describe something. Woke is changing before our eyes and the original meaning has been lost as it now embodies a description of something that is not at all involved with injustice and anti racism. It looks more like a foolish set of beliefs and attitudes and that is starting to stick. No. Woke is being used to insult decent people. If the nasty right-wingers get their own way and their distortions are recorded as being the true meaning of the word, then shame on you and every other mindless individual who has helped poison the use of an honest and decent word. You and others need to learn to attack the OTT actions of certain individuals and stop using woke as a broad brush using it against anything right-wingers disagree with. Right-wingers appear to be mostly sick and nasty. Remember "The Wets" ? Well this is where opinion slides into view. It was never an honest and decent word largely because from the outset it was used as a means to attack others as the only way that 'woke' becomes a reality is if it highlights the nefarious activities of others and at that point that also slides into opinion. The problem is being woke has resulted in the race laws whereby injustice is tackled by applying exactly the same injustice to others. So perhaps many people are trying to be decent but getting it wrong and that is why the word has become a form of abuse.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 10, 2022 17:21:19 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 10, 2022 17:26:58 GMT
I've already very eloquently explained what 'woke' is, I have to assume my wise words of wisdom have been ignored. I feel hurt, I feel I should talk openly about my feelings and if necessary, have a good cry about it. See, I have seen the error of my ways, am at last coming to terms with my masculinity, and maybe if I wore one of Mrs R's dresses, Oh joy of joys, I'd feel more like Einy.
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Post by Toreador on Nov 10, 2022 20:42:50 GMT
Do you care about the feelings of someone who wishes a white Britain? Yes, but I would hold a civilised conversation with them. A first for you.
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