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Post by thomas on Jan 13, 2024 13:58:51 GMT
you moan about Johnny Foreigner coming to Britain and not respecting your culture , but you won't respect the culture of the welsh nation? Seems a strange attitude to take John. Cymru , as you know , isn't a new name. Its an ancient name spanning back to the tenth century , as the brythonic Celts stopped calling themselves britons , and started calling themselves the Cymry , (compatriots) in recognition of the real politik of the time , that they had lost their lands in what was to become England to the germanic English invaders. The problem, which i have stated many times, is my ancestors failed to drive the scum into the sea. which ancestors is that then John? You have had 1600 years , and if you haven't managed to do it by now , I think you have to accept you might just not manage it eh? Wales is an English name mate , so why should the welsh use your name for their country? Do you demand the germans call their country Germany instead of ze fatherland? |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 13, 2024 15:13:57 GMT
you moan about Johnny Foreigner coming to Britain and not respecting your culture , but you won't respect the culture of the welsh nation? Seems a strange attitude to take John. Cymru , as you know , isn't a new name. Its an ancient name spanning back to the tenth century , as the brythonic Celts stopped calling themselves britons , and started calling themselves the Cymry , (compatriots) in recognition of the real politik of the time , that they had lost their lands in what was to become England to the germanic English invaders. The problem, which i have stated many times, is my ancestors failed to drive the scum into the sea. If you go back far enough you might find that your ancestors were Celts. Either that or they were from one of the invading cultures. Most likely a mixture of both. My surname is of Norman origin but my DNA is a healthy mix of English, Scots, Irish, Norse, Iberian and even a little Italian. I strongly suspect yours is a similar bastard mix of cultures just like this Sceptered Isle we stand on. |
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Post by bancroft on Jan 13, 2024 15:16:54 GMT
The problem I have is with the Celts did they all speak the same language, no.
Did the Angles, Saxons and Jutes speak the same language, no.
What we are likely looking at is just earlier waves of migration that then settles.
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Post by thomas on Feb 3, 2024 12:11:43 GMT
The problem I have is with the Celts did they all speak the same language, no. Did the Angles, Saxons and Jutes speak the same language, no. What we are likely looking at is just earlier waves of migration that then settles. im not sure what your point is Bancroft? Who claimed the Celts spoke the same language ? Even within the same language groups like Gaelic there were vast dialectical differences . Celtic is an umbrella term for differing languages that have the same root language , similar to other linguistic terms like germanic , slavic hispanic etc. The welsh have the right to call their country what they like , including using their native name. Do you go to Germany , or France , or elsewhere and demand these countries use English language names ? The problem with language in the uk is that unionists , and those who buy into the nonsense about the British being a homogenous people can't handle the fact there is no British language to unite us , and all the countries of the uk have their own native languages. Hence the fury of the welsh wanting welsh language names. |
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Post by thomas on Feb 3, 2024 12:12:25 GMT
The problem, which i have stated many times, is my ancestors failed to drive the scum into the sea. If you go back far enough you might find that your ancestors were Celts. Either that or they were from one of the invading cultures. Most likely a mixture of both. My surname is of Norman origin but my DNA is a healthy mix of English, Scots, Irish, Norse, Iberian and even a little Italian. I strongly suspect yours is a similar bastard mix of cultures just like this Sceptered Isle we stand on. John is a good European like us monte. He just doesn't like admitting it. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 3, 2024 23:28:01 GMT
Join me in a petition to get rid of the name those bloody Germanic invaders forced on us. #Make England Albion Again. You are perfectly entitled to sign/start such a petition if you wish. I wouldn't sign it personally, but I would have thought woke lefties would jump at the chance to erase the nasty racist word 'England' from the lexicon. Pkaid would. They want wales full of all sorts of immigrants to cancel the sound of english on the streets |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 3, 2024 23:35:13 GMT
The problem, which i have stated many times, is my ancestors failed to drive the scum into the sea. If you go back far enough you might find that your ancestors were Celts. Either that or they were from one of the invading cultures. Most likely a mixture of both. My surname is of Norman origin but my DNA is a healthy mix of English, Scots, Irish, Norse, Iberian and even a little Italian. I strongly suspect yours is a similar bastard mix of cultures just like this Sceptered Isle we stand on. the bbc did tbe job for me decades ago On my fathers side i’m pretty much entirely sigurd viking, a group from norway who popped down to france. On my mothers side they're wild wooly welsh almost all the way back to cadwallader and his goats, apart from some markers in my mitochondrial dna suggesting the distaff side gad a hankering for a blonde blue eyed aryan |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 4, 2024 0:16:26 GMT
If you go back far enough you might find that your ancestors were Celts. Either that or they were from one of the invading cultures. Most likely a mixture of both. My surname is of Norman origin but my DNA is a healthy mix of English, Scots, Irish, Norse, Iberian and even a little Italian. I strongly suspect yours is a similar bastard mix of cultures just like this Sceptered Isle we stand on. the bbc did tbe job for me decades ago On my fathers side i’m pretty much entirely sigurd viking, a group from norway who popped down to france. On my mothers side they're wild wooly welsh almost all the way back to cadwallader and his goats, apart from some markers in my mitochondrial dna suggesting the distaff side gad a hankering for a blonde blue eyed aryan Interesting stuff. Can you JoG or Monte, recommend where to go to get ancestry and DNA checked? Yes I've had a quick shufty courtesy of google but any tips would be appreciated. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 4, 2024 0:29:51 GMT
I do not have a particular place i could suggest
As i mentioned, a few decades ago the BBC ran a call for volunteers and i responded. After explaining the details i knew, they passed me over to a bunch whose name i forget now who took blood and cheek swabs. A fair while later they came back to tell me what they had found. As i recall there were four distinct viking groups.
Unlike many others who refer to doing this i had few surprises.
The mitochondrial dna test was a but different it came from the new guys in my old research lab where my nephew was working. I’m not sure what they were after to be honest but the norse DNA markers they found there did surprise me
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 4, 2024 0:54:00 GMT
I do not have a particular place i could suggest As i mentioned, a few decades ago the BBC ran a call for volunteers and i responded. After explaining the details i knew, they passed me over to a bunch whose name i forget now who took blood and cheek swabs. A fair while later they came back to tell me what they had found. As i recall there were four distinct viking groups. Unlike many others who refer to doing this i had few surprises. The mitochondrial dna test was a but different it came from the new guys in my old research lab where my nephew was working. I’m not sure what they were after to be honest but the norse DNA markers they found there did surprise me OK, thanks for the response. |
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Post by Ripley on Feb 4, 2024 15:32:40 GMT
the bbc did tbe job for me decades ago On my fathers side i’m pretty much entirely sigurd viking, a group from norway who popped down to france. On my mothers side they're wild wooly welsh almost all the way back to cadwallader and his goats, apart from some markers in my mitochondrial dna suggesting the distaff side gad a hankering for a blonde blue eyed aryan Interesting stuff. Can you JoG or Monte, recommend where to go to get ancestry and DNA checked? Yes I've had a quick shufty courtesy of google but any tips would be appreciated. Ancestry and 23andMe are the ones I've heard of, but I'm surprised you would want your DNA data in the hands of a third party. Think of the ways this information could be used to discriminate against you. One way is that these repositories of your DNA information can be compelled by court order to share your data with law enforcement. Both the Golden State killer and the Zodiac killer were identified by using these online genealogical sites to compare genetic profiles. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 5, 2024 9:53:24 GMT
Interesting stuff. Can you JoG or Monte, recommend where to go to get ancestry and DNA checked? Yes I've had a quick shufty courtesy of google but any tips would be appreciated. Ancestry and 23andMe are the ones I've heard of, but I'm surprised you would want your DNA data in the hands of a third party. Think of the ways this information could be used to discriminate against you. One way is that these repositories of your DNA information can be compelled by court order to share your data with law enforcement. Both the Golden State killer and the Zodiac killer were identified by using these online genealogical sites to compare genetic profiles. Yes indeed, all very good points. |
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Post by dappy on Feb 5, 2024 10:07:16 GMT
Surely only a risk if you intend to be a serial killer (or indeed already are….).
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Post by Ripley on Feb 5, 2024 14:03:03 GMT
Surely only a risk if you intend to be a serial killer (or indeed already are….). Not necessarily. What if your genetic profile reveals something about heritable traits that an insurance company or bank might hold against you at some time in the future? Do you really want to grant third party access to that sort of personal data? |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 20, 2024 11:32:11 GMT
Surely only a risk if you intend to be a serial killer (or indeed already are….). Not necessarily. My own profile and dabs remain on the police database right next to those of the rapist, murderer, child murderer and arsonist put away by my daughter's testimony. Taken for 'exclusion' purposes to remove my traces left on the front door I failed to kick in thinking a person might be alive in the property Clegg allowed them to be stored forever on the PNC linked to the murderer with no clear statement these were taken from a witness (The number of database admins with clearance and access to the system is about the same as the number of cheeks on one arse and I knew them both, which is how I know the structure .... And Gwent paid refuse to erase them despite being told to remove the details of all such. The requirement to do so was never made mandatory..... Don't tell me Diane Flabbott wouldn't love to extract those to fit me up for something. Maybe implicate me in the death of David Kelly for example.... |
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