|
|
Post by zanygame on Jan 5, 2024 12:34:56 GMT
But no education. And more importantly, do desire of education. Andrew you'll have to join the queue. I'm still waiting for Jonsky to tell me how a heat pump works and why a brick layer was removing them from a housing development that didn't have any. 😅 😂 🤣 Good point . So what are your qualifications in the science of climate change ? Fairs fair ? 😉 Where did I ask for Jonsky's qualifications? I know he's a bricklayer so I would not presume he had some. He claims heat pumps don't work, I merely asked him if he knew how they worked, which he doesn't. All I required was that he look up how they work before claiming they don't. I think I can assume you know how they work and that I could have a reasonable conversation with you about their advantages and limitations. |
|
|
|
Post by jonksy on Jan 5, 2024 12:37:16 GMT
You can have your opinions. But then so can Dave. A biological male is not a biological female . That is a fact , not an opinion . That makes you wrong and Dave delusional. Note the usual MO of zany by using personal abuse to those who do not share his views. |
|
|
|
Post by zanygame on Jan 5, 2024 12:37:31 GMT
It was a joke (hence the laughing emoji's) About your style zany. Congratulations BTW yet another fucking thread you have diverted. I don't think I can claim the title of derailing this thread. I think you took that title with this. Jonsky wrote.
What's human about having to share toilets or changing facilities with perverts Andy? |
|
|
|
Post by jonksy on Jan 5, 2024 12:39:04 GMT
About your style zany. Congratulations BTW yet another fucking thread you have diverted. I don't think I can claim the title of derailing this thread. I think you took that title with this. Jonsky wrote.
What's human about having to share toilets or changing facilities with perverts Andy?The thread was about HR not a fucking ego trip for the lefties. |
|
|
|
Post by zanygame on Jan 5, 2024 12:39:42 GMT
A biological male is not a biological female . That is a fact , not an opinion . That makes you wrong and Dave delusional. Note the usual MO of zany by using personal abuse to those who do not share his views. Fire with fire. You started the personal abuse I just reciprocated. BTW you run the risk of becoming another B4 Shout abuse and try to bully, then when you fail cry victim. |
|
|
|
Post by zanygame on Jan 5, 2024 12:41:07 GMT
I don't think I can claim the title of derailing this thread. I think you took that title with this. Jonsky wrote.
What's human about having to share toilets or changing facilities with perverts Andy?The thread was about HR not a fucking ego trip for the lefties. This thread is about Rishi Sunaks reputation. Its called Rishi's reputation. |
|
|
|
Post by Red Rackham on Jan 5, 2024 12:44:25 GMT
Just heard this and it made me laugh. Not a genuine haha laugh you understand, more of a resigned grunt if I'm honest. I just heard someone say... "The reason Sunak will not withdraw the UK from the ECHR is because it would ruin his reputation on the dinner party circuit". Sounds perfectly plausible to me, whether it's true or not is neither here nor there because that is the perception and in politics perception is everything. Rich Rishi gives the impression of a wealthy geek rather than a competent conservative prime minister. I think he will be remembered as one of our worst, if not the worst conservative prime minister and I'm including Liz Truss. He should be a Labour MP, not a Tory. Why would you foist him on Labour. They don't want an out of touch billionaire who thinks its OK for the wife of the Prime Minister to pay her taxes in India while enjoying the joys and security of Britain. If you think being Labour is just about the EU its climb you climbed out of your rabbit hole. What I want from a Tory or Labour country is not to need food banks in the 6th richest economy in the world. Not to punish the poorest with interest hikes while giving the rich more tax breaks. But mostly a bit of honesty. Just what did we gain from all that austerity. Apart from making the filthy rich even filthier richer. "The UK is not alone amongst developed countries in having experienced an increase in income inequality over the last 60 years. But income inequality in the UK has grown more than in most OECD countries." So where is all that promised investment that would come from making the rich richer. Frankly I'm fed up with the lies and the scandals. And a few thousand asylum seekers playing the system is a puff of wind. I care not a jot about Sunak, I don't like him and never wanted him as a leader largely because he has more in common with Blair then a proper centre right Conservative, and if you honestly believe food banks will disappear under a Labour government then you're on the wrong forum, you should be on gumtree with the kids, don't forget foodbanks stated under a Labour government. You talk about the poor without seeing the big picture. Labour make no secret of the fact they are very pro minority and pro immigration, yet nothing has adversely affected the poor in this country over the past 20 years or so, more than mass immigration. A huge pool of unskilled labour in the workplace keeps rents up and wages down, and if you're homeless in this country you will die homeless because government both central and local are far more concerned about finding homes for hundreds of thousands illegal immigrants, and this is under a Tory government. I can only imagine what it would be like after five years of Starmers socialism. |
|
|
|
Post by jonksy on Jan 5, 2024 12:52:19 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Red Rackham on Jan 5, 2024 13:04:10 GMT
Do you even know what withdrawing is? What it means? Do we withdraw from the ECHR but keep international laws on refugees and human rights. Do you know the difference between the two? These knee jerk actions without any bothering to educate themselves is why we can never have the public making decisions. Yes I know Jonksy. Bumburgher leftie blah blah blah meaningless uneducated crap. I'm afraid, after reading that ^ I have to come to the conclusion that you don't know what you're talking about. Now I don't pretend to be an expert on constitutional law, but professor Richard Ekins is. And according to Richard Ekins, professor of law and constitutional government at Oxford University...the government should withdraw from the ECHR, withdrawal from the convention would also free the UK from the jurisdiction of the ECtHR. www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/thinktank-puts-echr-withdrawal-back-on-tory-agenda/5113817.article |
|
|
|
Post by andrewbrown on Jan 5, 2024 13:09:24 GMT
and this is under a Tory government. I can only imagine what it would be like after five years of Starmers socialism. I thought you said that both parties were the same, or was that someone else? |
|
|
|
Post by Bentley on Jan 5, 2024 13:21:16 GMT
Good point . So what are your qualifications in the science of climate change ? Fairs fair ? 😉 Where did I ask for Jonsky's qualifications? I know he's a bricklayer so I would not presume he had some. He claims heat pumps don't work, I merely asked him if he knew how they worked, which he doesn't. All I required was that he look up how they work before claiming they don't. I think I can assume you know how they work and that I could have a reasonable conversation with you about their advantages and limitations. How would you know if Jonksy was correct about how heat pumps work? Have you any training on heat pumps ? |
|
|
|
Post by zanygame on Jan 5, 2024 13:31:36 GMT
Why would you foist him on Labour. They don't want an out of touch billionaire who thinks its OK for the wife of the Prime Minister to pay her taxes in India while enjoying the joys and security of Britain. If you think being Labour is just about the EU its climb you climbed out of your rabbit hole. What I want from a Tory or Labour country is not to need food banks in the 6th richest economy in the world. Not to punish the poorest with interest hikes while giving the rich more tax breaks. But mostly a bit of honesty. Just what did we gain from all that austerity. Apart from making the filthy rich even filthier richer. "The UK is not alone amongst developed countries in having experienced an increase in income inequality over the last 60 years. But income inequality in the UK has grown more than in most OECD countries." So where is all that promised investment that would come from making the rich richer. Frankly I'm fed up with the lies and the scandals. And a few thousand asylum seekers playing the system is a puff of wind. I care not a jot about Sunak, I don't like him and never wanted him as a leader largely because he has more in common with Blair then a proper centre right Conservative, and if you honestly believe food banks will disappear under a Labour government then you're on the wrong forum, you should be on gumtree with the kids, don't forget foodbanks stated under a Labour government. I don't think Sunak has any resemblance to Blair, but I guess you would like to insult Blair, so I'll let that go. Food banks appeared under Blair for the homeless and were applauded. Now they have grown beyond all imagining. I would fully expect the need to be much reduced under Labour. Especially Sir Kier who has personal experience of being poor. A thing that I have experienced and makes me a champagne socialist in that I've been reasonably successful while not forgetting what its like to struggle. Immigration under the Tories has had a dramatic effect on the poor. That effect is the price of housing. THE BIGGEST THING ANY GOVERNMENT COULD DO FOR THE POORER IN THE UK WOULD BE TO BUILD AS MANY HOUSES AS THERE ARE PEOPLE NEEDING THEM. Cutting immigration would reduce the future need but not the current one (Unless you are going to expel those we invited here.) There is a huge shortage of labour in this country, my company increased pay by 14% in 2023 and still we struggle to hire new staff as we expand. Its not lack of jobs making people poor its cost of housing. I remind you. I am against immigration as I feel we are full. I have spent many a thread trying to explain why governments continue with it and what we must do to make it no longer necessary. And its not shoot some globalists. |
|
|
|
Post by zanygame on Jan 5, 2024 13:33:18 GMT
Where did I ask for Jonsky's qualifications? I know he's a bricklayer so I would not presume he had some. He claims heat pumps don't work, I merely asked him if he knew how they worked, which he doesn't. All I required was that he look up how they work before claiming they don't. I think I can assume you know how they work and that I could have a reasonable conversation with you about their advantages and limitations. How would you know if Jonksy was correct about how heat pumps work? Have you any training on heat pumps ? Jonsky has never said how heat pumps work, he has just said they don't which is patently incorrect. And yes I do know how heat pumps work, its not exactly rocket science is it. |
|
|
|
Post by zanygame on Jan 5, 2024 13:36:58 GMT
Do you even know what withdrawing is? What it means? Do we withdraw from the ECHR but keep international laws on refugees and human rights. Do you know the difference between the two? These knee jerk actions without any bothering to educate themselves is why we can never have the public making decisions. Yes I know Jonksy. Bumburgher leftie blah blah blah meaningless uneducated crap. I'm afraid, after reading that ^ I have to come to the conclusion that you don't know what you're talking about. Now I don't pretend to be an expert on constitutional law, but professor Richard Ekins is. And according to Richard Ekins, professor of law and constitutional government at Oxford University...the government should withdraw from the ECHR, withdrawal from the convention would also free the UK from the jurisdiction of the ECtHR. www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/thinktank-puts-echr-withdrawal-back-on-tory-agenda/5113817.articleAnd if I quote another professor saying we should be in the ECHR should we re-join? How do you know which professor to believe if you have no even basic knowledge of the difference between European and International human rights. |
|
|
|
Post by Red Rackham on Jan 5, 2024 13:54:35 GMT
I'm afraid, after reading that ^ I have to come to the conclusion that you don't know what you're talking about. Now I don't pretend to be an expert on constitutional law, but professor Richard Ekins is. And according to Richard Ekins, professor of law and constitutional government at Oxford University...the government should withdraw from the ECHR, withdrawal from the convention would also free the UK from the jurisdiction of the ECtHR. www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/thinktank-puts-echr-withdrawal-back-on-tory-agenda/5113817.articleAnd if I quote another professor saying we should be in the ECHR should we re-join? How do you know which professor to believe if you have no even basic knowledge of the difference between European and International human rights. I'm not interested in academics arguing whether we should or shouldn't leave the ECHR, everyone has an opinion. You appeared to be under the impression that we couldn't leave the ECHR. I quoted professor Ekins because he points out that we could lawfully leave the ECHR and the jurisdiction of the ECtHR. It is not a question of law, it's a question of political will. |
|
