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Post by om15 on Jan 6, 2024 13:01:22 GMT
Red shoes and red top give it away, and the haircut.
Never mind the CBE, she should be facing charges of perverting the course of justice, lying on oath, facilitating wrongful prosecution, being a woke appointee and being dishonest.
Why is it that all the short haired box ticking appointees such as Alison Rose, Nicola Sturgeon and now this old bird who are dishonest, incompetent and openly break the law not only get away with it are showered with honours?
I think that we should be told.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 6, 2024 13:06:07 GMT
I certainly hoped this was true but with my usual distrust of the Daily Fail I searched for the same news elsewhere. The BBC has the same information... www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67899189The Guardian is more nuanced. It states that lawyers involved with the enquiry say that there is enough evidence for the police to investigate. This does not mean that the police are actually investigating....at least not yet. www.theguardian.com/business/2023/dec/28/post-office-horizon-inquiry-enough-evidence-for-police-investigationGenerally the more nuanced account tends to be more accurate, all other things being equal. Though if the stories in the BBC and Mail are more recent then these might be more accurate possibly. No time to look into this further right now due to the fact I am about to leave for work
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 6, 2024 13:07:19 GMT
Red shoes and red top give it away, and the haircut. Never mind the CBE, she should be facing charges of perverting the course of justice, lying on oath, facilitating wrongful prosecution, being a woke appointee and being dishonest. Why is it that all the short haired box ticking appointees such as Alison Rose, Nicola Sturgeon and now this old bird who are dishonest, incompetent and openly break the law not only get away with it are showered with honours? I think that we should be told. The usual lefty box ticking, she fits the bill completely, I wonder why Labour aren't seeking a police investigation, I bet if she was a Tory they'd be demanding action. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 6, 2024 13:08:27 GMT
Red shoes and red top give it away, and the haircut. Never mind the CBE, she should be facing charges of perverting the course of justice, lying on oath, facilitating wrongful prosecution, being a woke appointee and being dishonest. Why is it that all the short haired box ticking appointees such as Alison Rose, Nicola Sturgeon and now this old bird who are dishonest, incompetent and openly break the law not only get away with it are showered with honours? I think that we should be told. Indeed. There is a certain look of aggressive femininity with them . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 6, 2024 13:11:40 GMT
Red shoes and red top give it away, and the haircut. Never mind the CBE, she should be facing charges of perverting the course of justice, lying on oath, facilitating wrongful prosecution, being a woke appointee and being dishonest. Why is it that all the short haired box ticking appointees such as Alison Rose, Nicola Sturgeon and now this old bird who are dishonest, incompetent and openly break the law not only get away with it are showered with honours? I think that we should be told. Indeed. There is a certain look of aggressive femininity with them . Yep, she'll be offered a job as chief advisor to Starmer, like the idiot who oversaw the partygate inquiry. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 6, 2024 13:15:29 GMT
To be fair, Rachel Reeves said a future Labour government would concentrate on compensation for the victims rather than stripping Vennells of her CBE. Imo that’s the right way to go . Honours are only ‘ gongs for the boys ‘ anyway. As an aside , everyone and their dog knew about this ‘ scandal’ for a number of years . I have no doubt that every MP , Lord or anyone with political influence knew as well but it’s taken an ITV ( note ..not BBC) television programme to bring the whole filthy mess into the public gaze . Only now ( bar one or two)are politicians falling over themselves to offer solutions . Well I hear today the petition to remove her CBE is now 500 000 strong. The TV series has boosted signatures from a very low number that it was before the programme, demonstrating how many were kept in the dark, even in today's world of 24hr News. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 6, 2024 13:17:06 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 6, 2024 13:18:57 GMT
To be fair, Rachel Reeves said a future Labour government would concentrate on compensation for the victims rather than stripping Vennells of her CBE. Imo that’s the right way to go . Honours are only ‘ gongs for the boys ‘ anyway. As an aside , everyone and their dog knew about this ‘ scandal’ for a number of years . I have no doubt that every MP , Lord or anyone with political influence knew as well but it’s taken an ITV ( note ..not BBC) television programme to bring the whole filthy mess into the public gaze . Only now ( bar one or two)are politicians falling over themselves to offer solutions . I remember watching a programme about this Post Office Horizon scandal a couple of years ago, ex postmasters in tears talking about losing their life savings, their homes, their friends and reputations and being sent to prison, 700 of them. You would have to be pretty hard nosed not to be moved. We all know legal wheels move slowly but as you say, people at the top must have known about this for years. I think any talk of stripping Vennells of her CBE is trivial, she should be investigated with a view to prosecution imo. She was in charge, the buck stops on her desk. |
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Post by ratcliff on Jan 6, 2024 13:23:29 GMT
What I want to know is where is all the money that was 'stolen' ? I mean if the post office reckons Ive nicked £20k and Ive paid it back surely there must be an extra £20K in the system somewhere . So when THEY do the accounts they will find the extra money (x loads) but it doesn't seem to have been declared as surplus Someone has their mittens in the till and its not the poor bastards behind the counter In the final episode it is mooted by the independent investigator asked that question by the convicted postmistress Jo -(after the verdict) that the ''missing on paper '' money entry was probably held in a suspense account then eventually transferred to the PO profit account -but he still had to prove it |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 6, 2024 13:25:13 GMT
Imo that’s the right way to go . Honours are only ‘ gongs for the boys ‘ anyway. As an aside , everyone and their dog knew about this ‘ scandal’ for a number of years . I have no doubt that every MP , Lord or anyone with political influence knew as well but it’s taken an ITV ( note ..not BBC) television programme to bring the whole filthy mess into the public gaze . Only now ( bar one or two)are politicians falling over themselves to offer solutions . I remember watching a programme about this Post Office Horizon scandal a couple of years ago, ex postmasters in tears talking about losing their life savings, their homes, their friends and reputations and being sent to prison, 700 of them. You would have to be pretty hard nosed not to be moved. We all know legal wheels move slowly but as you say, people at the top must have known about this for years. I think any talk of stripping Vennells of her CBE is trivial, she should be investigated with a view to prosecution imo. She was in charge, the buck stops on her desk. Bankruptcies, suicide attempts and jail sentences: the real stories of the victims of the Post Office Horizon scandal...
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Post by jonksy on Jan 6, 2024 13:27:28 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 6, 2024 13:31:47 GMT
I remember watching a programme about this Post Office Horizon scandal a couple of years ago, ex postmasters in tears talking about losing their life savings, their homes, their friends and reputations and being sent to prison, 700 of them. You would have to be pretty hard nosed not to be moved. We all know legal wheels move slowly but as you say, people at the top must have known about this for years. I think any talk of stripping Vennells of her CBE is trivial, she should be investigated with a view to prosecution imo. She was in charge, the buck stops on her desk. Bankruptcies, suicide attempts and jail sentences: the real stories of the victims of the Post Office Horizon scandal...
Bloody sad. It's good that this scandal is finally out in the open, but I doubt any of them will ever receive appropriate compensation. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 6, 2024 13:31:51 GMT
Imo that’s the right way to go . Honours are only ‘ gongs for the boys ‘ anyway. As an aside , everyone and their dog knew about this ‘ scandal’ for a number of years . I have no doubt that every MP , Lord or anyone with political influence knew as well but it’s taken an ITV ( note ..not BBC) television programme to bring the whole filthy mess into the public gaze . Only now ( bar one or two)are politicians falling over themselves to offer solutions . I remember watching a programme about this Post Office Horizon scandal a couple of years ago, ex postmasters in tears talking about losing their life savings, their homes, their friends and reputations and being sent to prison, 700 of them. You would have to be pretty hard nosed not to be moved. We all know legal wheels move slowly but as you say, people at the top must have known about this for years. I think any talk of stripping Vennells of her CBE is trivial, she should be investigated with a view to prosecution imo. She was in charge, the buck stops on her desk. I’d be quite happy for her to keep the gong . Everytime a criminal or ne’er do well gets one or gets to keep one it shows us just how much the elites despise ordinary people . |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 6, 2024 13:34:21 GMT
Bankruptcies, suicide attempts and jail sentences: the real stories of the victims of the Post Office Horizon scandal...
Bloody sad. It's good that this scandal is finally out in the open, but I doubt any of them will ever receive appropriate compensation. I wonder how many post masters of both sexes have died with that injustice still an open wound Red? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 6, 2024 14:17:09 GMT
Imo that’s the right way to go . Honours are only ‘ gongs for the boys ‘ anyway. As an aside , everyone and their dog knew about this ‘ scandal’ for a number of years . I have no doubt that every MP , Lord or anyone with political influence knew as well but it’s taken an ITV ( note ..not BBC) television programme to bring the whole filthy mess into the public gaze . Only now ( bar one or two)are politicians falling over themselves to offer solutions . I remember watching a programme about this Post Office Horizon scandal a couple of years ago, ex postmasters in tears talking about losing their life savings, their homes, their friends and reputations and being sent to prison, 700 of them. You would have to be pretty hard nosed not to be moved. We all know legal wheels move slowly but as you say, people at the top must have known about this for years. I think any talk of stripping Vennells of her CBE is trivial, she should be investigated with a view to prosecution imo. She was in charge, the buck stops on her desk. Stuff is moving forward as we speak now. A police criminal investigation has just started with two people so far interviewed under caution. |
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