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Post by see2 on Dec 27, 2023 10:21:32 GMT
While you are waiting for your different battlefield, where different political MPs will unite in order to keep Lefties and Righties in their place i.e. pushed out into no mans land, the sensible option would be to use the present system for the 'benefit of the many, not the few' (a comment introduced by New Labour) A system that is within reach. It makes a mockery of those who refuse to vote for it out of spite. As a call to arms to get me to vote for your lot, that is pitiful. You actually voted Conservative in 2019. So what the holy fuck makes you think i am ever going to vote for anyone on your say so? Because the big difference between you and I - and one which speaks volumes - is that I have never voted Conservative and never will. That you once did shows what a treacherous piece of crap you are if you have any claim to be left of anything. Any cause you support is yet another good reason for me not to. Your words are utterly wasted on me if you want me to vote Labour. The best chance you have is by yourself shutting the fuck up. Every word you utter convinces me even more forcefully that I will never vote the way you want me to. Your opening gambit is another case of your imagination twisting things to suit your own personal anger. Followed by a really dopey question. I am far too intelligent to vote Hard-Left, the more so when the Hard-Left is headed by an immature seriously naive individual. IMO, only the naive closed minded shallow thinkers could have been sold that nonsense. That you are too stupid to understand moderation in UK politics exposes just how hard Left and closed minded you are. I place myself in the moderate position of the Centre-Left, a position that is genuinely concerned about the majority of people in the UK. Yes I did favour a moderate Centre-Right politician to the ramblings that the Hard-Left 'silly man' had on offer. Pointing out your closed minded spiteful approach to politics insults you and your voting plans, its hardly designed to get you to grow up and to see the light. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 27, 2023 10:34:53 GMT
You mean between their ridiculously petty selves they have yet again created a cluster feck. While calling it representative democracy. Politicians appear to have the ability to screw up any system. IMO it is the quality of the Members of Parliament that counts. LOL well as it has been proven time and again, we don't have any of quality deemed votable. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 27, 2023 10:48:11 GMT
Politicians appear to have the ability to screw up any system. IMO it is the quality of the Members of Parliament that counts. LOL well as it has been proven time and again, we don't have any of quality deemed votable. Well yes, apart from New Labour that is  |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 27, 2023 10:49:05 GMT
How did I know that was coming ^^^^^^
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Post by see2 on Dec 27, 2023 10:58:24 GMT
How did I know that was coming ^^^^^^ Probably because there is truth in my comment. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 27, 2023 11:00:26 GMT
How did I know that was coming ^^^^^^ Probably because there is truth in my comment. Not really you see it as the only option. So, I knew it was coming. Whereas the rest of us know it will be just the same old round of bullshit. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 13:37:47 GMT
If you insist upon making a twat out of yourself, let me spell it out so even a simpleton can understand. Plymouth was a Tory led council until May when they got slaughtered. It has been Labour run since then. In trying to suggest something other than that you are either being a thick twat or wilfully dishonest. Its you who has made a twat of yourself as per usual. Your statement that you made that I linked too were made in June 2023. And you accuse others of lying LOL LOL LOL....
EDIT you thought you would be smart and delete your statement from June but as per usual you were to late as many have PM'd me telling me what a thick twat you are as they had already read it...
Jokesy, I don't care what dates are on any links you choose to post. It is a fact that Labour gained control of Plymouth in May 2023, and their leader - Tudor Evans - is still in charge of the Labour council. So please stop posting absolute rubbish and check your facts out. No Tory has been running the council snce May. How about educating yourself on some actual facts. Here is what happened last May.... www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-65491080As can be clearly seen and which would be well understood by anyone else not digging themselves into a hole marked "idiot" is that Labour won the local elections and now control Plymouth with 31 out of 58 seats, the Tories losing all but one of the seats they contested. The Labour leader and leader of the council is Tudor Evans. He is still leading now. He is not in jail. A Tory is not leading the council. So please do yourself a favour and stop making yourself look a tit. Most of the shit you are posting actually refers to the Tory led council in power before May and you are too dumb not to row back on that pitiful misunderstanding. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 13:40:03 GMT
As a call to arms to get me to vote for your lot, that is pitiful. You actually voted Conservative in 2019. So what the holy fuck makes you think i am ever going to vote for anyone on your say so? Because the big difference between you and I - and one which speaks volumes - is that I have never voted Conservative and never will. That you once did shows what a treacherous piece of crap you are if you have any claim to be left of anything. Any cause you support is yet another good reason for me not to. Your words are utterly wasted on me if you want me to vote Labour. The best chance you have is by yourself shutting the fuck up. Every word you utter convinces me even more forcefully that I will never vote the way you want me to. Your opening gambit is another case of your imagination twisting things to suit your own personal anger. Followed by a really dopey question. I am far too intelligent to vote Hard-Left, the more so when the Hard-Left is headed by an immature seriously naive individual. IMO, only the naive closed minded shallow thinkers could have been sold that nonsense. That you are too stupid to understand moderation in UK politics exposes just how hard Left and closed minded you are. I place myself in the moderate position of the Centre-Left, a position that is genuinely concerned about the majority of people in the UK. Yes I did favour a moderate Centre-Right politician to the ramblings that the Hard-Left 'silly man' had on offer. Pointing out your closed minded spiteful approach to politics insults you and your voting plans, its hardly designed to get you to grow up and to see the light. Yet apparently not intelligent enough to know what the hard left actually is, if you think it's me. lol |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 27, 2023 13:40:39 GMT
Its you who has made a twat of yourself as per usual. Your statement that you made that I linked too were made in June 2023. And you accuse others of lying LOL LOL LOL....
EDIT you thought you would be smart and delete your statement from June but as per usual you were to late as many have PM'd me telling me what a thick twat you are as they had already read it...
you choose to post. It is a fact that Labour gained control of Plymouth in May 2023, and their leader - Tudor Evans - is still in charge of the Labour council. So please stop posting absolute rubbish and check your facts out. No Tory has been running the council snce May. How about educating yourself on some actual facts. Here is what happened last May.... www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-65491080As can be clearly seen and which would be well understood by anyone else not digging themselves into a hole marked "idiot" is that Labour won the local elections and now control Plymouth with 31 out of 58 seats, the Tories losing all but one of the seats they contested. The Labour leader and leader of the council is Tudor Evans. He is still leading now. He is not in jail. A Tory is not leading the council. So please do yourself a favour and stop making yourself look a tit. Most of the shit you are posting actually refers to the Tory led council in power before May and you are too dumb not to row back on that pitiful misunderstanding. You got caught red handed srb and now you are struggling. I have had it with you...You never reply to the topic but just attack othere forum members. ie you are a troll. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 27, 2023 13:51:04 GMT
Probably because there is truth in my comment. Not really you see it as the only option. So, I knew it was coming. Whereas the rest of us know it will be just the same old round of bullshit. If ones head is full of anti-New Labour propaganda then I imagine that is how one would think. ^^^ I am centre-left in my political views, so centre-right is quite close to me, which is why I voted Conservative, or to be more precise voted centre-right in 2019. Now you have the reality perhaps you will stop posting misinformed posts about me. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 13:51:23 GMT
If you insist upon making a twat out of yourself, let me spell it out so even a simpleton can understand. Plymouth was a Tory led council until May when they got slaughtered. It has been Labour run since then. In trying to suggest something other than that you are either being a thick twat or wilfully dishonest. Its you who has made a twat of yourself as per usual. Your statement that you made that I linked too were made in June 2023. And you accuse others of lying LOL LOL LOL....
EDIT you thought you would be smart and delete your statement from June but as per usual you were to late as many have PM'd me telling me what a thick twat you are as they had already read it...
I very much doubt that because no one here is as stupid as you and would at least look up the relevant facts. Plymouth is Labour run, Tudor Evans is Labour leader. He is in charge of the council. He is not in jail. A Tory is not running Plymouth. Labour controls 31 of the 58 seats. If anyone wanted to support you they'd do it openly but probably know you are talking shit. As for anything I posted in June, are you that desperate as to dredge up 6 month old posts?. And I did attempt to check out both links to my posts. One of them appears not to exist and the other is dated March 2023, and was discussing the then Tory-led council. How much more of a tit are you going to make yourself? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 13:54:39 GMT
Jokesy, I don't care what dates are on any links you choose to post. It is a fact that Labour gained control of Plymouth in May 2023, and their leader - Tudor Evans - is still in charge of the Labour council. So please stop posting absolute rubbish and check your facts out. No Tory has been running the council snce May. How about educating yourself on some actual facts. Here is what happened last May.... www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-65491080As can be clearly seen and which would be well understood by anyone else not digging themselves into a hole marked "idiot" is that Labour won the local elections and now control Plymouth with 31 out of 58 seats, the Tories losing all but one of the seats they contested. The Labour leader and leader of the council is Tudor Evans. He is still leading now. He is not in jail. A Tory is not leading the council. So please do yourself a favour and stop making yourself look a tit. Most of the shit you are posting actually refers to the Tory led council in power before May and you are too dumb not to row back on that pitiful misunderstanding. You got caught red handed srb and now you are struggling. I have had it with you...You never reply to the topic but just attack othere forum members. ie you are a troll. Again, I did attempt to check out both links to my posts. One of them appears not to exist - or at least the link didnt work = and the other is dated March 2023, and was discussing the then Tory-led council. So you have made yourself look an utter clown on this one, apparently unaware of the facts today but too stupid to find them out before doubling down on utter bollocks, lol |
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Post by see2 on Dec 27, 2023 13:55:00 GMT
Your opening gambit is another case of your imagination twisting things to suit your own personal anger. Followed by a really dopey question. I am far too intelligent to vote Hard-Left, the more so when the Hard-Left is headed by an immature seriously naive individual. IMO, only the naive closed minded shallow thinkers could have been sold that nonsense. That you are too stupid to understand moderation in UK politics exposes just how hard Left and closed minded you are. I place myself in the moderate position of the Centre-Left, a position that is genuinely concerned about the majority of people in the UK. Yes I did favour a moderate Centre-Right politician to the ramblings that the Hard-Left 'silly man' had on offer. Pointing out your closed minded spiteful approach to politics insults you and your voting plans, its hardly designed to get you to grow up and to see the light. Yet apparently not intelligent enough to know what the hard left actually is, if you think it's me. lol You seem to think so much is about you when it isn't. You're so vain. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 14:03:33 GMT
Jokesy, I don't care what dates are on any links you choose to post. It is a fact that Labour gained control of Plymouth in May 2023, and their leader - Tudor Evans - is still in charge of the Labour council. So please stop posting absolute rubbish and check your facts out. No Tory has been running the council snce May. How about educating yourself on some actual facts. Here is what happened last May.... www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-65491080As can be clearly seen and which would be well understood by anyone else not digging themselves into a hole marked "idiot" is that Labour won the local elections and now control Plymouth with 31 out of 58 seats, the Tories losing all but one of the seats they contested. The Labour leader and leader of the council is Tudor Evans. He is still leading now. He is not in jail. A Tory is not leading the council. So please do yourself a favour and stop making yourself look a tit. Most of the shit you are posting actually refers to the Tory led council in power before May and you are too dumb not to row back on that pitiful misunderstanding. You got caught red handed srb and now you are struggling. I have had it with you...You never reply to the topic but just attack othere forum members. ie you are a troll. The only one caught red handed is you, you clown, lol. I told you what the situation in Plymouth is. I do live here after all. I provided all the relevant facts and have done so multiple times now. as well as a link confirming those facts. Here it is again.... www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-65491080So why did you come here trying to tell me that a Tory has had to take charge of the council, because of legal difficulties of the Labour leader. Even if there had been such a problem -and none has been reported and Tudor Evans is still in charge, if he had to step down - which he hasnt - with their majority some other Labour councillor would take charge, not a Tory. Are you trying to invent an alternate reality full of shit that never happened? Or are you just stupid? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 14:05:24 GMT
Yet apparently not intelligent enough to know what the hard left actually is, if you think it's me. lol You seem to think so much is about you when it isn't. You're so vain.I guess you think this song is about you, eh? Anyway, that's irony writ large from someone who shares only with the pope a belief in personal infallibilty. |
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