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Post by Dubdrifter on Dec 22, 2023 8:55:46 GMT
Here is an interesting archive interview (1 hr duration - so not for most snowflakes on here!).
It’s from over a decade ago - by Dr Steven Greer (respected Pentagon insider recently engaged pushing UFO/Alien Disclosure).
Here he talks to a military computer expert who was engaged in developing the earliest ID Chip technology initially to enable those in Authority to be able to rapidly track missing military/political personnel … even racehorses … that were kidnapped … Hopefully retrieve them before they were ‘de-programmed’ or damaged.
This became a concern after a number of cases in Europe in the 60’s/70’s occurred where top scientists/military were being nabbed and nobbled … and the prime minister of Italy was kidnapped.
Little did these ID Chip developers know … but secretive FACTIONS. behind the Deep State … were engineering a more sinister use for these chips … and would happily murder innocent people to keep their identities secret.
If you always thought the New World Order Agenda was just the paranoid imagination of Conspiracy Theorists … this man was right on the inside of this chip programme … with the highest security clearances … but was still outside the loop of this ‘Inner Circle’ that was answerable to no one.
A very bright guy who, due to safety concerns, only authorised release of this interview 3 years after his death in 2007.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 22, 2023 10:30:03 GMT
I can say I have seen these people in action and it is true they have immense power.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Dec 24, 2023 7:48:27 GMT
I can say I have seen these people in action and it is true they have immense power. What is interesting about this important interview is the degree to which the British are hand-in-glove with these amoral Americans engaged in so many assassinations around the World … killing mostly innocent people to basically perpetuate their position of power and control at the very top of this pyramid … .. as the guy basically says from 40 mins onwards … the concern is the money these people have, that operates without checks, regulation, laws … how that affects the safety of Americans and the Free World” … It’s shocks and disgusts most level minded British citizens that these gullible British Deep State operatives whoring themselves for a seat at the New World Order table … run by hidden groups solely propping up Israeli/American interests - seem oblivious to the FACTS this has always been a one-sided poodle relationship … and key technology the Americans got … was rarely shared with the British … the technology drain has always been rigged the other way…. and our best developments asset-stripped by America and Israel … and those running the EU. “GULLIBLE BRITS” is common knowledge thanks to these traitors within our UK Administrations that sell our assets + talents off so cheaply.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 24, 2023 8:31:12 GMT
You literally paid for a phone with a GPS tracker and quite possibly Chinese spyware in it.
Why would they need to carry out invasive surgery when they can sell you a tracking and bugging device you'll willingly carry around with you and not be able to do without?
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Post by Dubdrifter on Dec 24, 2023 11:22:07 GMT
You literally paid for a phone with a GPS tracker and quite possibly Chinese spyware in it. Why would they need to carry out invasive surgery when they can sell you a tracking and bugging device you'll willingly carry around with you and not be able to do without? It’s not the Russians and Chinese that are pushing Totalitarianism on the WEST today … China just provided the best devices at the cheapest prices for Silicon Valley companies to compete … most people know that it was the CIA and the Israelis running Silicon Valley that got together to create the backdoors in our devices through hardware and software designs that opened us up to being hacked, and manipulated by criminals and Deep State. They even used Chinese technology in their voting machines connected to the Internet to rig elections … but provided the designs and the intent to do that … engineered into the machines they ordered. They then turned around and tried to label the Chinese as the main threat to Western Democracy …. when the criminal intent was theirs. Nobody intelligent bought into recent paranoia about Tik Tok and that Huwai was the main protagonists of todays spyware … they are not a company that has declared war on it’s ordinary people… like Microsoft and Apple, Google and every search engine and American app did … getting into bed with.the CIA and Israel factions … marketing spyware. If you study the surveillance programme that has been engineered to sift ordinary people’s data …. and create the Orwellian world we inhabit … despite the fact most of us are not terrorists … but just need a bit of privacy and security of our PRIVATE information … most market push towards a cashless/gadget dependent Society that was vulnerably to drone attack … was down to the WEST … and mostly lead by American/Israeli Deep State initiatives … with British operatives poodling along behind … like an obedient puppy that wets itself when the two main Rottweilers bark at it. …. Meanwhile … to get back to one topic also brought up by this OP interview around the 51 minute mark … AVC’s … alien visitation craft …. where he talks about Aero-engineering Industries in the 60/70/80’s gradually managing to crack the reverse engineering of these crashed vehicles.
This is the bombshell reveal in this piece.
…. None of these engineers was ambivalent where these technologies came from …. there was no bullshit in these circles that they were terrestrial black ops project initiated …ie developed and designed by humans …… that was just ‘propaganda’ that was fed to the gullible Public and stupid scientists like Brian Cox convinced and happy to stay Religious to the idea aliens didn’t exist … and didn’t have the technology to reach us …
It took these top secret scientists with the best resources and unlimited money decades to catch up with what was dropped in their laps…. from Roswell, Kecksburg etc
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Post by Vinny on Dec 24, 2023 12:44:34 GMT
You're excusing evil with whatabout the West bollocks. 1) Even if there were an NWO plan, do you think they'd go to the trouble of an expensive project which people would reject when instead they could simply sell people smartspeakers and mobile phones with spyware in? For just £25, you too can be spied on from the comfort of your own living room and buy your very own big brother. www.argos.co.uk/product/1245792?clickPR=plp:9:21Or if smartspeakers aren't your thing to be spied on by, a mobile phone. For £450 you can pay to be spied on by one of these: www.argos.co.uk/product/2066781?clickSR=slp:term:samsung%20galaxy:10:112:1So why would they bother to chip you like a dog? There'd be a lot of resistance. What's your choice of Big Brother, Apple / Android / other? What's in your pocket listening to everything you say and tracking your every move? 2) Democracy in Russia is as dead as Boris Nemtsov, Alexei Nalvany was murdered the other week. You haven't even brought the issue of his murder up, do you think he's still alive? If so where is he? And why did Russia detain an anti war activist mother who wants to stand for office? Because it is run by criminals and deposing those criminals would result in their prosecution. www.hrw.org/europe/central-asia/russia3) China is a dictatorship with appalling human rights. www.hrw.org/world-report/2022/country-chapters/china-and-tibetIt's ok to not like Western governments but be consistent damn it, the dictatorships in Russia and China are killing people.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 24, 2023 21:56:20 GMT
You're excusing evil with whatabout the West bollocks. 1) Even if there were an NWO plan, do you think they'd go to the trouble of an expensive project which people would reject when instead they could simply sell people smartspeakers and mobile phones with spyware in? For just £25, you too can be spied on from the comfort of your own living room and buy your very own big brother. www.argos.co.uk/product/1245792?clickPR=plp:9:21Or if smartspeakers aren't your thing to be spied on by, a mobile phone. For £450 you can pay to be spied on by one of these: www.argos.co.uk/product/2066781?clickSR=slp:term:samsung%20galaxy:10:112:1So why would they bother to chip you like a dog? There'd be a lot of resistance. What's your choice of Big Brother, Apple / Android / other? What's in your pocket listening to everything you say and tracking your every move? 2) Democracy in Russia is as dead as Boris Nemtsov, Alexei Nalvany was murdered the other week. You haven't even brought the issue of his murder up, do you think he's still alive? If so where is he? And why did Russia detain an anti war activist mother who wants to stand for office? Because it is run by criminals and deposing those criminals would result in their prosecution. www.hrw.org/europe/central-asia/russia3) China is a dictatorship with appalling human rights. www.hrw.org/world-report/2022/country-chapters/china-and-tibetIt's ok to not like Western governments but be consistent damn it, the dictatorships in Russia and China are killing people. The problem with your link is it judges China through the eyes of the woke. Chinese culture is completely different to our own so what the Chinese like is quite different too. For example they are against LGBT propaganda, and I can't quite get what they argue about regarding China's one child policy. It is true it caused a demographic problem and has since been switched so now the government are trying to encourage more babies. According to your link, they are damned with the old way and damned in doing it the opposite way! A thing I see a lot with this type of reporting is they cherry pick facts. Even though the facts are often correct, by not explaining the full picture you the reader are left to assume the rest of the picture is the same as here and hence makes the thing they do look unfair. Like a classic one is where they say something like 95% of trials are found guilty, but neglect to explain how China's legal system works, as in for this the final hearing is the last step in the process, so faulty prosecutions are often thrown out before the final stage. Knowing this changes everything. just beware organisations like you link to are highly paid professional propaganda merchants who lie as a living. It's all political and it is all part of the US media control machine. I agree with you about smart "speakers". Someone checked and asked them to disclose all data held by Google. It was gigabytes worth or essentially all that was recorded on the smart speaker. Anyway, the proof is in the pudding. I think the Chinese are much happier now. My brother's wife was talking about fraud, saying we, as in we Chinese, had it all over there in the past. It is a case of was, not is. The Chinese government are slick operators and they work on this principle of not chasing intangible things like GDP, but relating their success to tangible improvements in people's lives. As the years go by in China everyone sees stuff work better and more conveniently than it did. This continual improvement is what keeps the state unified. It's very much like their version of our Victorian period. It was not a time for slackers, but people were generally happy that we were progressing.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 24, 2023 23:08:46 GMT
I have a friend in Hong Kong who witnessed the brutality of the dictatorship first hand.
Fuck Communism. Fuck Xi Jinping and fuck anyone who defends dictatorships.
If supporting human rights and democracy is offensive to you, I shall not stop so get over it.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Dec 25, 2023 12:35:00 GMT
I have a friend in Hong Kong who witnessed the brutality of the dictatorship first hand. Fuck Communism. Fuck Xi Jinping and fuck anyone who defends dictatorships. If supporting human rights and democracy is offensive to you, I shall not stop so get over it. When you start doing that … let us know. In the eyes of some on here … you are backing Nazi/Soros Posse Eastern Expansionists working towards World Domination. When you start to recognise that human rights and Democracy is now a figment of Western imagination … and that we now suffer in the West from an Islamic/Zionist-funded Totalitarianism orchestrated by a few nutcases within mostly American/Israeli/Middle Eastern circles …. heavily engaged in destabilising our Planet and creating problems and hardship FOR WESTERNERS many times worse than anything Russia and China has dished up since WW2 … then we might see some reality in your posts on this Forum. Let’s get back to the point of this thread … not distractions about mobile phone security or Chinese affairs … but the realisation that there are dangerous unaccountable highly secret groups hidden behind the fringes of our WESTERN Military complex around the World that have enormous wealth and power and spy capabilities to infiltrate into any situation, steal technology of the most advanced imaginable … and able to manipulate and murder without any intervention from the Law.
A lawless, stateless, immoral lying bunch of evil protagonists highly motivated to driving the stability of our Planet over a cliff.
Let’s stick to discussing the implications of that NEWS … and how best we can cooperate with all Nations on Earth … including the Russians and Chinese … to get rid of them, … and retake control of our Planet.
We can see on this Forum which Members are in bed with the Agendas this New World Order is pursuing … expansionist invasion … It explains why some of us are being heavily targeted for censorship and removal … for blowing the whistle on this really threatening scenario that inevitably spirals the West from one catastrophic situation to another since 9/11 …
…. the patterns in their behaviour are becoming very predictable … as a domino of false flag operations unfold … invariable triggered by terror groups and MSM propaganda narrative.
It will be interesting to note which extra-terrestrial/occult factions are engineering within these Cabals … As mentioned elsewhere, Religion is largely involved in these manipulations…. and we know how little they respect our Democracies … and the principle of Democracy.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 25, 2023 14:14:09 GMT
When are you going to realise, it's ok to not like our government, that of the USA, the EU or anyone else, but be rational.
Be objective.
They can sell you smart speakers and mobile phone pocket tracking devices which record your every step, why would they bother trying to force surgery onto anyone?
And why don't you condemn the bombing of civilians, the murder of political rivals and general corruption of the Putin mafia?
Your arguments are crap.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Dec 26, 2023 9:19:07 GMT
When are you going to realise, it's ok to not like our government, that of the USA, the EU or anyone else, but be rational. Be objective. They can sell you smart speakers and mobile phone pocket tracking devices which record your every step, why would they bother trying to force surgery onto anyone? And why don't you condemn the bombing of civilians, the murder of political rivals and general corruption of the Putin mafia? Your arguments are crap. You say that about everything I write … 🤣👏 Firstly, … threads about “Chipping billions of humans confirmed as a New World Order programme” is what it says on the tin …. not every thread you jump on has to refer to Putin and China when in reality they do very little that actually negatively affects our lives … to the degree the EU/Democrat/Tory poodles create immense hardship! If you analyse in detail, the recent Ukraine War and Sanctions/Depression/Hyper Inflation Economic war with China was ALL engineered/initiated by these secret Western Factions bullying our Governments + refusing Peace Talks with Putin that could have saved so much destruction and tragedy) Moving back on topic …. My guess is chipping humans by the billions could have easily been secretly implemented as part of the multiple Covid inoculation programme … when you look at the side effects and deaths that resulted in this mass inoculation programme … what could be a better way of getting billions of people to agree to being ID chipped in the arm in this way? … then shutting down Media stories and investigations into people complaining their arms are still magnetic … from something lodged under the skin. Once again we are pointing towards … Military bio-weapons/Fauci/Bill Gates/CIA/Israeli involvement with all these interlinked programmes … which as the OP video suggests has been well advanced and feasible since the 80’s … and you didn’t need to lug a ridiculous battery around your neck to be picked up by a satellite and ID’d back then. This and other Youtube videos claiming this is just Conspiracy Theory … is just distraction. Things are very advances today … far beyond what Scandinavian commercial tech companies are manufacturing.(see next post) Most spyware initiatives and chipping initiatives moving towards bullying conformity to lockdowns and injections come directly from these Western cabals that have jumped on TED talk stages and bombarded the MSM with articles about how we should conform to losing our FREEDOMS to the dubious science stat manipulations of the Green Agenda. …. 15 minute cities, a cashless Society. The reason the WESTERN Totalitarians want to put a minute tracking device and ID chip under the skin is because anyone can throw away a mobile phone and go “off the Grid” … once cash is removed and every transaction is controlled by bankers and their implants … compliance to everything they propose will be mandatory. …. Any resistance will result in an individual being branded an ‘Enemy of the State’ … and locked out of any financial support system they’ve worked to build … starvation and family support could be switched on and off overnight. Positively Orwellian - with certain Members on here … and even Scandinavians happily supporting the Western Regimes pushing this. Why?? With Finland and Sweden joining NATO … the pro-Stoltenberg Nazis are really in the building now! 🤔
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Post by Vinny on Dec 26, 2023 9:28:07 GMT
People are not going to be forced to be implanted with microchips, this is just mark of the beast millennialist bollocks.
Capitalism rules this planet and they've sold you your very own Big Brother mobile phone, it's listening to your every word, that's why the battery life is abysmal.
And they've sold you a smart speaker as well. Rather than talk about what is happening, you're distracted by fantasy (again).
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Post by Dubdrifter on Dec 26, 2023 9:35:22 GMT
It is ridiculous to suggest that the technologists who talk about nanobot engineering within the bloodstream … haven’t today managed to manufacture an ID chip smaller than this humungous lump developed by this Scandinavian concern.
Interesting the CEO of this Company calls himself the “Chief Disruption Officer” …. Hmmm … how Orwellian.
… but it reflects how enormous they made this chip … guaranteed to give you an embolism if it gives off a bad reaction to implantation.
The Americans had ID implants much smaller than this in the 80’s according to the OP.🙄 … this is a ridiculous size.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Dec 26, 2023 9:52:34 GMT
This is the last of the chipping billions ‘denial’ videos to make it through the Israeli-owned Youtube censorship programme … but it still gives clues who is involved in these programmes (the Military/Defence Dept) +(ApiJect Systems).
Note: $$$135million dollar contracts for PRE-FILLED syringes for Covid-19 vaccines. …Hmmm… 🤔 … how interesting … ??
… the potential here is becoming more evident.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 26, 2023 12:40:12 GMT
I have a friend in Hong Kong who witnessed the brutality of the dictatorship first hand. Fuck Communism. Fuck Xi Jinping and fuck anyone who defends dictatorships. If supporting human rights and democracy is offensive to you, I shall not stop so get over it. When you start doing that … let us know. In the eyes of some on here … you are backing Nazi/Soros Posse Eastern Expansionists working towards World Domination. When you start to recognise that human rights and Democracy is now a figment of Western imagination … and that we now suffer in the West from an Islamic/Zionist-funded Totalitarianism orchestrated by a few nutcases within mostly American/Israeli/Middle Eastern circles …. heavily engaged in destabilising our Planet and creating problems and hardship FOR WESTERNERS many times worse than anything Russia and China has dished up since WW2 … then we might see some reality in your posts on this Forum. Let’s get back to the point of this thread … not distractions about mobile phone security or Chinese affairs … but the realisation that there are dangerous unaccountable highly secret groups hidden behind the fringes of our WESTERN Military complex around the World that have enormous wealth and power and spy capabilities to infiltrate into any situation, steal technology of the most advanced imaginable … and able to manipulate and murder without any intervention from the Law.
A lawless, stateless, immoral lying bunch of evil protagonists highly motivated to driving the stability of our Planet over a cliff.
Let’s stick to discussing the implications of that NEWS … and how best we can cooperate with all Nations on Earth … including the Russians and Chinese … to get rid of them, … and retake control of our Planet.
We can see on this Forum which Members are in bed with the Agendas this New World Order is pursuing … expansionist invasion … It explains why some of us are being heavily targeted for censorship and removal … for blowing the whistle on this really threatening scenario that inevitably spirals the West from one catastrophic situation to another since 9/11 …
…. the patterns in their behaviour are becoming very predictable … as a domino of false flag operations unfold … invariable triggered by terror groups and MSM propaganda narrative.
It will be interesting to note which extra-terrestrial/occult factions are engineering within these Cabals … As mentioned elsewhere, Religion is largely involved in these manipulations…. and we know how little they respect our Democracies … and the principle of Democracy.Our country started all of this with the British East India Company, and we started the offshore banking in about 1200 by the creation of trusts for the purpose of the Knights Templar. Today offshore trusts are used to hide money from corrupt PPE deals which are currently under criminal investigation.
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