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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 17, 2023 17:27:08 GMT
According to a report in the Guardian a 'campaign and advocacy group', Reunite Families, has instructed solicitors Leigh, Day to look into legal avenues to challenge the government's proposed new minimum income threshold of £38,700 to bring in a foreign spouse or partner.
Campaigners are denouncing the proposals as 'cruel and inhumane' and are claiming that they will violate the ECHR's human rights provisions guaranteeing the right to family life. Per the Guardian, thousands such 'multinational families will be affected and many will have to split up.
The Guardian says it has received notification of hundreds of cases and goes full-court press with heart-rending examples, as well as full-length articles in the rest of the paper...
"Hundreds of people whose lives could be turned upside down by the new rules have contacted the Guardian warning that they will have to leave the UK if they want to stay with their foreign partners. Many work in sectors with severe worker shortages, such as care and social work.
One care worker, 50, said the rule was “ruining our plans for a happy future”; an academic, 35, said: “These new rules terrify me”; a marketing manager said: “Separating families is an atrocity”; and a music teacher, 35, facing a move to Kazakhstan, said they felt the comfort they had worked for “slipping away”.
An administrator at the University of Cambridge said she and her partner from Morocco were being kept apart by the existing salary threshold and were experiencing age-related fertility problems, meaning “this whole system has basically cost us the chance to have our own family”.
Leigh, Day will be salivating at the prospect of representing thousands of claimants, they have not had a payday on this scale since it sued the British government in the Mau Mau and al Sweady compensation cases.
'Reunite Families' is a bit of a puzzle. Since it is not a charity there are no published accounts in the public domain, although according to its website it receives funding from a number of the usual suspects, including the Paul Hamlyn Foundation, the JCWI and several others. It's unclear where all the funding comes from.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2023 17:46:08 GMT
Imagine a highly qualified surgeon, scientist, engineer or doctor considering coming to the UK to fill one of the skills gaps, and imagine if that skilled person wanted to bring their wife / husband and children with them, only to discover that in the UK, you cannot do that.
What will happen ?
They will go somewhere else
I hope the legal challenge is sucessfull because its a nasty, cruel policy.
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 17, 2023 17:49:29 GMT
Surely someone with such a valuable skill-set will earn enough to comfortably meet the income threshold?
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2023 17:50:53 GMT
Imagine a highly qualified surgeon, scientist, engineer or doctor considering coming to the UK to fill one of the skills gaps, and imagine if that skilled person wanted to bring their wife / husband and children with them, only to discover that in the UK, you cannot do that. What will happen ? They will go somewhere else I hope the legal challenge is sucessfull because its a nasty, cruel policy. I seriously doubt any of those will be coming with an offer less than 38k somehow, but then that is another matter. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 17, 2023 17:54:24 GMT
For the ones who want more migrants, every road leads to more migrants .
For the ones that hate the Tories , every road leads to nasty , cruel Tories .
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2023 17:56:33 GMT
It makes me smile; our arseholes are better than the present arseholes. Well the strange news is, no they are all arseholes.
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Post by Ripley on Dec 17, 2023 17:58:18 GMT
I have a relative who was born in the UK but taken overseas as an infant by her parents. She married overseas and lived there for a few more years.
She and her husband are both skilled, educated, and comfortably off. Her husband is highly educated. When she wanted to come back to the UK, the government stalled for more than two years on her husband's application and he was only able to gain admittance after he re-applied and could prove that his grandfather was British. Even then, the government insisted that their assets be liquid during the process. I don't think this is a proper way to treat the spouses of British born citizens.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 17, 2023 18:09:18 GMT
Imagine a highly qualified surgeon, scientist, engineer or doctor considering coming to the UK to fill one of the skills gaps, and imagine if that skilled person wanted to bring their wife / husband and children with them, only to discover that in the UK, you cannot do that. What will happen ? They will go somewhere else I hope the legal challenge is sucessfull because its a nasty, cruel policy. Whats cruel about it FFS fiddles? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 17, 2023 18:19:04 GMT
I have a relative who was born in the UK but taken overseas as an infant by her parents. She married overseas and lived there for a few more years. She and her husband are both skilled, educated, and comfortably off. Her husband is highly educated. When she wanted to come back to the UK, the government stalled for more than two years on her husband's application and he was only able to gain admittance after he re-applied and could prove that his grandfather was British. Even then, the government insisted that their assets be liquid during the process. I don't think this is a proper way to treat the spouses of British born citizens. If your British-born spouse earns enough money you don't need to have a British grandfather to accompany her to the UK.
Somebody's been telling you porkies.
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Post by Ripley on Dec 17, 2023 18:39:26 GMT
I have a relative who was born in the UK but taken overseas as an infant by her parents. She married overseas and lived there for a few more years. She and her husband are both skilled, educated, and comfortably off. Her husband is highly educated. When she wanted to come back to the UK, the government stalled for more than two years on her husband's application and he was only able to gain admittance after he re-applied and could prove that his grandfather was British. Even then, the government insisted that their assets be liquid during the process. I don't think this is a proper way to treat the spouses of British born citizens. If your British-born spouse earns enough money you don't need to have a British grandfather to accompany her to the UK.
Somebody's been telling you porkies.
My relative is a British born woman whose husband is foreign born. She had no trouble getting back in, but her husband got the runaround for two years until he remembered he had a British grandfather. That's when he reapplied under a different category and succeeded in getting in. These are two educated productive people who are comfortably off. It shouldn't have been that hard. |
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Post by om15 on Dec 17, 2023 18:46:50 GMT
The World shouldn't have a right to move into the UK whenever it sees fit.
People from the UK can't choose to live in other countries at a whim, expect to be put up free of charge in six star hotels and see a local dentist, whilst all the time telling all and sundry the hosts are dreadful far right racists.
The duty of our elected government is to put the welfare and future prosperity of our citizens first, Blair, Cameron, May, Johnson and the new bloke have failed on every count.
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Post by Ripley on Dec 17, 2023 18:50:08 GMT
The World shouldn't have a right to move into the UK whenever it sees fit. People from the UK can't choose to live in other countries at a whim, expect to be put up free of charge in six star hotels and see a local dentist, whilst all the time telling all and sundry the hosts are dreadful far right racists. The duty of our elected government is to put the welfare and future prosperity of our citizens first, Blair, Cameron, May, Johnson and the new bloke have failed on every count. Do you think that British born citizens should have the right to bring their foreign born spouses home when they have very marketable skills, abundant assets and need no government assistance? |
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Post by om15 on Dec 17, 2023 18:51:46 GMT
Yes they should have the right, and as far as I am aware they can.
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Post by Ripley on Dec 17, 2023 18:59:50 GMT
Yes they should have the right, and as far as I am aware they can. It is a lot more difficult than you might imagine. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 17, 2023 19:10:07 GMT
I have a relative who was born in the UK but taken overseas as an infant by her parents. She married overseas and lived there for a few more years. She and her husband are both skilled, educated, and comfortably off. Her husband is highly educated. When she wanted to come back to the UK, the government stalled for more than two years on her husband's application and he was only able to gain admittance after he re-applied and could prove that his grandfather was British. Even then, the government insisted that their assets be liquid during the process. I don't think this is a proper way to treat the spouses of British born citizens. If you do not earn enough why is it incumbent on the rest of us to keep a foreign born spouse as that is in reality what is being demanded. We keep loads of spouses of loads of people already here, trying to keep the numbers down seems like an excellent policy. |
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