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Post by sandypine on Dec 17, 2023 15:26:43 GMT
I cannot get behind that which I feel will not really work, I can accept if that is the way the world wants to go then I may be outvoted and would support whatever was tried but I can argue now that it will not work. Considering they want all the Jews out of Israel then of course it won't work. Sunak, who isn't even elected and is just some slimey liar who slipped in through the cracks is only for it because Tory HQ wants to win over the Muslim vote. You can tell from the language of RedRum that it will not work. He seems to believe that Israel expelled by forced removal 750,000 Arabs from their lands in 1948. This myth keeps the pot of injustice boiling and simplifies the right/wrong divide.
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Post by sandypine on Dec 17, 2023 15:29:26 GMT
It is not really solved though is it and that was not internationally imposed. Most people have peace there will always be those who try and change that, no it was imposed mostly by the yanks. Who are being very hypocritical for the minute. There may be generally peace, and it may last, but then under the surface the difficulties remain and people cannot do things that are recognised as freedoms elsewhere.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2023 15:34:42 GMT
Most people have peace there will always be those who try and change that, no it was imposed mostly by the yanks. Who are being very hypocritical for the minute. There may be generally peace, and it may last, but then under the surface the difficulties remain and people cannot do things that are recognised as freedoms elsewhere. There is generally peace you mean and as I said all along somebody or several countries will have to step in, which will happen, you cannot in this day and age constantly poke the rest of the world in the eye and keep getting away with it, such as using and taking the piss out of skull and bones in the US, it will come back on them for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2023 15:45:10 GMT
Considering they want all the Jews out of Israel then of course it won't work. Sunak, who isn't even elected and is just some slimey liar who slipped in through the cracks is only for it because Tory HQ wants to win over the Muslim vote. You can tell from the language of RedRum that it will not work. He seems to believe that Israel expelled by forced removal 750,000 Arabs from their lands in 1948. This myth keeps the pot of injustice boiling and simplifies the right/wrong divide. Most of them arrived in the 20th century and many actually live in Israel. Still, it's interesting to see the Left this pro-racialist when it comes to Arabs, yet are more than happy to scream racist toward English folk who oppose the cultural genocide of England and ethnocide of the English group.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2023 17:25:52 GMT
Considering they want all the Jews out of Israel then of course it won't work. Sunak, who isn't even elected and is just some slimey liar who slipped in through the cracks is only for it because Tory HQ wants to win over the Muslim vote. You can tell from the language of RedRum that it will not work. He seems to believe that Israel expelled by forced removal 750,000 Arabs from their lands in 1948. This myth keeps the pot of injustice boiling and simplifies the right/wrong divide. "Nakba" or "catastrophe" is a reference to the forced removal of an estimated 750,000 Palestinians from their homes when Israel was founded in 1948. Palestinians see it as a core element of their identity. During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, some Jewish militias massacred Palestinian civilians, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported." Sky News.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2023 17:26:53 GMT
You can tell from the language of RedRum that it will not work. He seems to believe that Israel expelled by forced removal 750,000 Arabs from their lands in 1948. This myth keeps the pot of injustice boiling and simplifies the right/wrong divide. Most of them arrived in the 20th century and many actually live in Israel. Still, it's interesting to see the Left this pro-racialist when it comes to Arabs, yet are more than happy to scream racist toward English folk who oppose the cultural genocide of England and ethnocide of the English group. Genocide of England - what planet do you live on?
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 17, 2023 18:23:44 GMT
Have we not already done that? No, it has been put up as a solution many times but always avoided in the end, this time it has rung home in places like Turkey, Saudi Arabia and China to name but a few of the big players. Turkey, Saudi and China are proposing to puts boots on the ground to impose a 2 state solution? Sounds like wishful thinking..
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 17, 2023 18:26:07 GMT
You can tell from the language of RedRum that it will not work. He seems to believe that Israel expelled by forced removal 750,000 Arabs from their lands in 1948. This myth keeps the pot of injustice boiling and simplifies the right/wrong divide. "Nakba" or "catastrophe" is a reference to the forced removal of an estimated 750,000 Palestinians from their homes when Israel was founded in 1948. Palestinians see it as a core element of their identity. During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, some Jewish militias massacred Palestinian civilians, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported." Sky News. millions were displaced at the end of WW2 - what is special about the Palestinians?
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2023 18:38:27 GMT
No, it has been put up as a solution many times but always avoided in the end, this time it has rung home in places like Turkey, Saudi Arabia and China to name but a few of the big players. Turkey, Saudi and China are proposing to puts boots on the ground to impose a 2 state solution? Sounds like wishful thinking.. Are they? I would take a guess that being much larger players in the global economy than Israel with its charitable status. They will be much more subtle, which no doubt the yanks will be expected to swallow the cost.
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Post by sandypine on Dec 17, 2023 18:44:12 GMT
You can tell from the language of RedRum that it will not work. He seems to believe that Israel expelled by forced removal 750,000 Arabs from their lands in 1948. This myth keeps the pot of injustice boiling and simplifies the right/wrong divide. "Nakba" or "catastrophe" is a reference to the forced removal of an estimated 750,000 Palestinians from their homes when Israel was founded in 1948. Palestinians see it as a core element of their identity. During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, some Jewish militias massacred Palestinian civilians, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported." Sky News. Why do you ignore the fact that the Arab armies advised/demanded that people leave and that they could return afyer Israel was destroyed and that there is evidence that some in Israel tried to keep the Arabs from moving. It is a complex picture to imply it was Israel that forced everyone out is just plain wrong and keeps the pot boiling. I repeat it is quite likely some Israeli groups behaved badly but that is not what you are saying which is historically inaccurate.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 17, 2023 18:52:15 GMT
Turkey, Saudi and China are proposing to puts boots on the ground to impose a 2 state solution? Sounds like wishful thinking.. Are they? I would take a guess that being much larger players in the global economy than Israel with its charitable status. They will be much more subtle, which no doubt the yanks will be expected to swallow the cost. You have to face reality - NO country is willing to puts its citizens in danger to impose a solution that neither side wants.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2023 19:00:30 GMT
Are they? I would take a guess that being much larger players in the global economy than Israel with its charitable status. They will be much more subtle, which no doubt the yanks will be expected to swallow the cost. You have to face reality - NO country is willing to puts its citizens in danger to impose a solution that neither side wants. No, you Zionists puppets will be facing reality. The world has taken all it is taking the lies and political manipulation has been pointed out long enough. You might think you can ignore it, but not this time.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2023 19:09:38 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 17, 2023 22:31:06 GMT
You have to face reality - NO country is willing to puts its citizens in danger to impose a solution that neither side wants. No, you Zionists puppets will be facing reality. The world has taken all it is taking the lies and political manipulation has been pointed out long enough. You might think you can ignore it, but not this time. LOL - listen to yourself. There is absolutely no country prepared to put it's troops in harms way to impose a solution that nobody wants. A few protesters on the streets is not going to change that reality.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2023 22:36:47 GMT
No, you Zionists puppets will be facing reality. The world has taken all it is taking the lies and political manipulation has been pointed out long enough. You might think you can ignore it, but not this time. LOL - listen to yourself. There is absolutely no country prepared to put it's troops in harms way to impose a solution that nobody wants. A few protesters on the streets is not going to change that reality. No listen to yourself, you sound a lot more worried than I am, the media is already changing its stance, as the horrors arrive out of Gaza. Israeli snipers shooting Christians, if they dare leave a church, I cannot see that going down well.
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