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Post by Bentley on Dec 13, 2023 12:43:11 GMT
They live in France . Meanwhile they pay criminals traffickers to get into the UK. Its said that some destroy or ‘lose’ their passports. If they don’t have passports then they have no proof of where they previously resided. International law does not require the UK to confer a pardon on the criminal traffickers; only those who employ their services to illegally enter the UK (subject to additional criteria). So I could paddle over to France without a passport and France would be obliged to accept me . |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 12:47:49 GMT
It appears that International Law is an even bigger ass than our own.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 13, 2023 12:52:24 GMT
It appears that International Law is an even bigger ass than our own. Indeed. It does suggest that the government is right to resist it . |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 13, 2023 12:54:46 GMT
Yes they fucking did need a visa. Some of them are now returning home because their visas have expired. And if they return by dinghy via France, they will be criminals. But they will be criminals whom the UK is required to pardon under its obligations as a signatory of the Refugee Convention. Any attempt to prosecute them will be a breach of international law. So this is yet another subject that we can chalk up that you know jackshit about. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2023 12:56:06 GMT
And if they return by dinghy via France, they will be criminals. But they will be criminals whom the UK is required to pardon under its obligations as a signatory of the Refugee Convention. Any attempt to prosecute them will be a breach of international law. So this is yet another subject that we can chalk up that you know jackshit about. Do what you like, Jonks. I'll still admire and respect you. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2023 12:56:48 GMT
International law does not require the UK to confer a pardon on the criminal traffickers; only those who employ their services to illegally enter the UK (subject to additional criteria). So I could paddle over to France without a passport and France would be obliged to accept me . Yes, but subject to the conditions previously mentioned. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 13, 2023 12:59:32 GMT
So I could paddle over to France without a passport and France would be obliged to accept me . Yes, but subject to the conditions previously mentioned. It’s a rather ridiculous situation isn’t it ? It needs reform and change . |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2023 13:02:30 GMT
Yes, but subject to the conditions previously mentioned. It’s a rather ridiculous situation isn’t it ? It needs reform and change . The simplest thing to do would be to leave the Refugee Convention. Reform and change are possibilities, too. Remote possibilities, perhaps, but possibilities nevertheless. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 13, 2023 15:22:39 GMT
How can you be even more stupid day in day out?. The Ukrainians were not allowed to set foot in the Country without a valid Visa. If you are now suggesting that we treat the Asylum seekers from France in the same way then I would be up for that - they stay in France until their claim has been assessed and if approved given a Visa to enter the UK. Of course I know that is not what you are suggesting as you are too stupid to understand what is going on in the world. The Ukrainians didn't need a visa. You really are the most stupid person on this forum.. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2023 15:27:56 GMT
The Ukrainians didn't need a visa. You really are the most stupid person on this forum.. Calm your tits, Doc. If those Ukrainians had appeared at Dover in dinghies they would have been criminals. A special category of criminal, though. A category that is entitled to a pardon under international law. You'll get it eventually. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 15:32:13 GMT
The Ukrainians didn't need a visa. You really are the most stupid person on this forum.. And the competition is quite strong. |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 13, 2023 15:42:15 GMT
You really are the most stupid person on this forum.. Calm your tits, Doc. If those Ukrainians had appeared at Dover in dinghies they would have been criminals. A special category of criminal, though. A category that is entitled to a pardon under international law. You'll get it eventually. They never turned up in dingheis darling. They came to the UK using the apropriate channels.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2023 15:44:19 GMT
Calm your tits, Doc. If those Ukrainians had appeared at Dover in dinghies they would have been criminals. A special category of criminal, though. A category that is entitled to a pardon under international law. You'll get it eventually. They never turned up in dingheis darling. They came to the UK using the apropriate channels.
Nothing gets past you, Jonks. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 13, 2023 15:48:19 GMT
International law does not require the UK to confer a pardon on the criminal traffickers; only those who employ their services to illegally enter the UK (subject to additional criteria). So I could paddle over to France without a passport and France would be obliged to accept me . Probably not, if the intention is to claim asylum. All EU states (plus the UK) have clauses in their domestic asylum regulations to the effect that claims from nationals of states considered to be as safe as them are deemed to be inadmissible. So if you rocked up on a French beach in your dinghy the gendarmes would likely just give you a good going over before bundling you straight back on the next ferry.
The UK's current inadmissibility regulations (s80a of the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002) is being upgraded as we speak to add other ultra-safe countries something a lot of lefties are in a right old lather about.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 13, 2023 15:49:46 GMT
They never turned up in dingheis darling. They came to the UK using the apropriate channels.
Well it would take more than a simpleton like you darling. |
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