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Post by Pacifico on Nov 15, 2022 22:17:28 GMT
But you have absolutely no idea whether that amount of CO2 is a significant amount or does anything to drastically change normal climate variations - you seem to be taking it on faith rather than science. Scientists say it. Common sense says it. So faith it is then. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2022 7:50:55 GMT
Scientists say it. Common sense says it. So faith it is then. Who mentioned faith. If you keep hitting your head against a wall, sooner or later you will realise you are damaging it and stop. |
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Post by Toreador on Nov 16, 2022 7:54:12 GMT
Who mentioned faith. If you keep hitting your head against a wall, sooner or later you will realise you are damaging it and stop. You will not feel the pain once you have hit your head long enough; get what I mean?  |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 16, 2022 8:11:11 GMT
Who mentioned faith. If you keep hitting your head against a wall, sooner or later you will realise you are damaging it and stop. Not sure what that word jumble is supposed to mean. All you had to say was that you had no scientific proof and were relying on your faith. After all it was a fairly simple question that for some reason you didnt want to answer. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Nov 16, 2022 8:19:28 GMT
I think Rishi Sunak's actions so far have been good. The pound is on the rise and our borrowing costs are falling back again. Stability is being restored to the markets because Rishi knows what he is doing, unlike Labour who do not have a bloody clue about economics. The only reason that has happened … is Klaus Schwab and the WEF and Black Cube have finally crow-barred their ‘man’ into power for a two year stint at least … by-passing Democracy and the VOTE of the Electorate. Rishi Sunak hasn’t suddenly developed restorative economic powers … his job was to get in the Cabinet … and severely bankrupt the UK during the Plandemic … put us back in debt and under CONTROL of the BANKERS and Globalists that tried to squeeze the Life and Funds out of us … while we were 40 years in the EU … and especially when we decided to leave their Mafia Group … and try and restore our Country’s economic fortunes. These Mafia Groups have done everything in their power to stop our bid for FREEDOM and CONTROL … in every way possible - internally and externally … wrapping every process possibly in RED TAPE.. The Markets are being manipulated by Schwab and the Soros Posse to make Sunak look good … like the ‘saviour’ of Britain’s fortunes and the Economy … This is purely an ‘illusion’. - These Globalists recognise Rishi Sunak will just help rack up future UK DEBT … and hand us kicking and screaming in protest to our slavery future. … something we DESPERATELY tried to escape VOTING BREXIT.
Rishi Sunak is young, smart and rich … and sadly isn’t the man to deliver UK citizens from slavery and invasion. … yet Mossad and The Monday Club secured him the TOP JOB … behind our backs. Something is seriously wrong with our Democracy here … the Tories SERIOUSLY exploited a LOOP HOLE … and Parliament rolled with it … AS USUAL ….complicit in this CORRUPTION. … but as for Sunak’s promise to STOP FRACKING IN BRITAIN 👏👍 … we will see how long that lasts … once the Globalists get us in our concrete overcoats and boots. … and threaten to throw us in Deep (State/Globalist) Waters.🙄😎 💩☠️ Not hard to guess why the U.S. and Israel so easily bullies it’s ‘little poodle’ … the UK. So many ‘stooges’ in Parliament with their tongues up the wrong derrières … they only switch to sticking them (oh so briefly - eeeew!) up the Electorate for a few hours once every 4 years. … In a Utopian Democracy … politicians should be just attentive to the Electorate’s interests … nobody else. Time for a complete Democratic overhaul to our Western System. …. Then the Markets will know who should REALLY be BOSS and will play the Game fairly. Hopefully restoring some integrity. Giving Countries and their People and Communities some RESPECT. Even Russians and Chinese. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2022 15:36:52 GMT
Who mentioned faith. If you keep hitting your head against a wall, sooner or later you will realise you are damaging it and stop. Not sure what that word jumble is supposed to mean. All you had to say was that you had no scientific proof and were relying on your faith. After all it was a fairly simple question that for some reason you didnt want to answer. I do not need to reiterate the proof that is already there, I am just adding the common-sense view of the facts. Do something that damages something, and you will damage something, simple. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 16, 2022 15:54:36 GMT
I think Rishi Sunak's actions so far have been good. The pound is on the rise and our borrowing costs are falling back again. Stability is being restored to the markets because Rishi knows what he is doing, unlike Labour who do not have a bloody clue about economics. The only reason that has happened … is Klaus Schwab and the WEF and Black Cube have finally crow-barred their ‘man’ into power for a two year stint at least … by-passing Democracy and the VOTE of the Electorate. Rishi Sunak hasn’t suddenly developed restorative economic powers … his job was to get in the Cabinet … and severely bankrupt the UK during the Plandemic … put us back in debt and under CONTROL of the BANKERS and Globalists that tried to squeeze the Life and Funds out of us … while we were 40 years in the EU … and especially when we decided to leave their Mafia Group … and try and restore our Country’s economic fortunes. These Mafia Groups have done everything in their power to stop our bid for FREEDOM and CONTROL … in every way possible - internally and externally … wrapping every process possibly in RED TAPE.. The Markets are being manipulated by Schwab and the Soros Posse to make Sunak look good … like the ‘saviour’ of Britain’s fortunes and the Economy … This is purely an ‘illusion’. - These Globalists recognise Rishi Sunak will just help rack up future UK DEBT … and hand us kicking and screaming in protest to our slavery future. … something we DESPERATELY tried to escape VOTING BREXIT.
Rishi Sunak is young, smart and rich … and sadly isn’t the man to deliver UK citizens from slavery and invasion. … yet Mossad and The Monday Club secured him the TOP JOB … behind our backs. Something is seriously wrong with our Democracy here … the Tories SERIOUSLY exploited a LOOP HOLE … and Parliament rolled with it … AS USUAL ….complicit in this CORRUPTION. … but as for Sunak’s promise to STOP FRACKING IN BRITAIN 👏👍 … we will see how long that lasts … once the Globalists get us in our concrete overcoats and boots. … and threaten to throw us in Deep (State/Globalist) Waters.🙄😎 💩☠️ Not hard to guess why the U.S. and Israel so easily bullies it’s ‘little poodle’ … the UK. So many ‘stooges’ in Parliament with their tongues up the wrong derrières … they only switch to sticking them (oh so briefly - eeeew!) up the Electorate for a few hours once every 4 years. … In a Utopian Democracy … politicians should be just attentive to the Electorate’s interests … nobody else. Time for a complete Democratic overhaul to our Western System. …. Then the Markets will know who should REALLY be BOSS and will play the Game fairly. Hopefully restoring some integrity. Giving Countries and their People and Communities some RESPECT. Even Russians and Chinese. I always like your posts. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 16, 2022 17:25:45 GMT
Not sure what that word jumble is supposed to mean. All you had to say was that you had no scientific proof and were relying on your faith. After all it was a fairly simple question that for some reason you didnt want to answer. I do not need to reiterate the proof that is already there, I am just adding the common-sense view of the facts. Do something that damages something, and you will damage something, simple. The proof so far seems to be yes C02 is a greenhouse gas along with quite a few others and will contribute to the warming of the planet. The point at which very few seem to agree is to what level that operates and varies from insignificant to disaster area. We are being asked (told?) to accept the disaster area scenario and as such are being expected (demanded?) to limit our carbon emissions. The problem of course is that those making those demands emit far more in a week than the rest of us do in our lifetime and it seems that they will continue to do so as the rest of us adopt the sackcloth and donkey trap. It is not just unproven what is happening it is also an immensely useful tool to control the populace with the help of a few useful idiots who will act as the camp commandants and guards. We saw it with Covid and the Vaccines and how some were too willing for others to wear badges of uncleanliness and be ostracised from society in general. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 16, 2022 17:53:54 GMT
Not sure what that word jumble is supposed to mean. All you had to say was that you had no scientific proof and were relying on your faith. After all it was a fairly simple question that for some reason you didnt want to answer. I do not need to reiterate the proof that is already there, I am just adding the common-sense view of the facts. Do something that damages something, and you will damage something, simple. You made an assertion that you were unable to back up - personally I dont consider your 'common sense' valid evidence. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 17, 2022 0:45:38 GMT
I think Rishi Sunak's actions so far have been good. The pound is on the rise and our borrowing costs are falling back again. Stability is being restored to the markets because Rishi knows what he is doing, unlike Labour who do not have a bloody clue about economics. The only reason that has happened … is Klaus Schwab and the WEF and Black Cube have finally crow-barred their ‘man’ into power for a two year stint at least … by-passing Democracy and the VOTE of the Electorate. Rishi Sunak hasn’t suddenly developed restorative economic powers … his job was to get in the Cabinet … and severely bankrupt the UK during the Plandemic … put us back in debt and under CONTROL of the BANKERS and Globalists that tried to squeeze the Life and Funds out of us … while we were 40 years in the EU … and especially when we decided to leave their Mafia Group … and try and restore our Country’s economic fortunes. These Mafia Groups have done everything in their power to stop our bid for FREEDOM and CONTROL … in every way possible - internally and externally … wrapping every process possibly in RED TAPE.. The Markets are being manipulated by Schwab and the Soros Posse to make Sunak look good … like the ‘saviour’ of Britain’s fortunes and the Economy … This is purely an ‘illusion’. - These Globalists recognise Rishi Sunak will just help rack up future UK DEBT … and hand us kicking and screaming in protest to our slavery future. … something we DESPERATELY tried to escape VOTING BREXIT.
Rishi Sunak is young, smart and rich … and sadly isn’t the man to deliver UK citizens from slavery and invasion. … yet Mossad and The Monday Club secured him the TOP JOB … behind our backs. Something is seriously wrong with our Democracy here … the Tories SERIOUSLY exploited a LOOP HOLE … and Parliament rolled with it … AS USUAL ….complicit in this CORRUPTION. … but as for Sunak’s promise to STOP FRACKING IN BRITAIN 👏👍 … we will see how long that lasts … once the Globalists get us in our concrete overcoats and boots. … and threaten to throw us in Deep (State/Globalist) Waters.🙄😎 💩☠️ Not hard to guess why the U.S. and Israel so easily bullies it’s ‘little poodle’ … the UK. So many ‘stooges’ in Parliament with their tongues up the wrong derrières … they only switch to sticking them (oh so briefly - eeeew!) up the Electorate for a few hours once every 4 years. … In a Utopian Democracy … politicians should be just attentive to the Electorate’s interests … nobody else. Time for a complete Democratic overhaul to our Western System. …. Then the Markets will know who should REALLY be BOSS and will play the Game fairly. Hopefully restoring some integrity. Giving Countries and their People and Communities some RESPECT. Even Russians and Chinese. Well sort of. You could say business as usual. The thing was Truss did make some logical mistakes which would cause the kind of chaos that ensued, like no hidden hand needed. What will they do about the Brics dedollarisation plan though? We have a lot invested in the US dollar. We are one of the world's top backers. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2022 5:09:20 GMT
I do not need to reiterate the proof that is already there, I am just adding the common-sense view of the facts. Do something that damages something, and you will damage something, simple. The proof so far seems to be yes C02 is a greenhouse gas along with quite a few others and will contribute to the warming of the planet. The point at which very few seem to agree is to what level that operates and varies from insignificant to disaster area. We are being asked (told?) to accept the disaster area scenario and as such are being expected (demanded?) to limit our carbon emissions. The problem of course is that those making those demands emit far more in a week than the rest of us do in our lifetime and it seems that they will continue to do so as the rest of us adopt the sackcloth and donkey trap. It is not just unproven what is happening it is also an immensely useful tool to control the populace with the help of a few useful idiots who will act as the camp commandants and guards. We saw it with Covid and the Vaccines and how some were too willing for others to wear badges of uncleanliness and be ostracised from society in general. Scientists are producing far more CO2 than the rest of us?? 😹 The western world gained its wealth from using fossil fuels and cutting down the rainforests for over a century. Now, when other countries attempt to do the same, we try to stop them because of global warming. They are looking for an equitable arrangement that allows them to develop, as we have, but not contribute to global warming. The west should be forging ahead with green energies and helping poorer countries do the same. I do agree however that controlling populations is a necessity. The big problem with a global disaster is that by the time everyone agrees it is happening it is too late; we saw that on a smaller scale with covid. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2022 5:15:34 GMT
I do not need to reiterate the proof that is already there, I am just adding the common-sense view of the facts. Do something that damages something, and you will damage something, simple. You made an assertion that you were unable to back up - personally I dont consider your 'common sense' valid evidence. A lot of dead people say that.  This is not actually a scientific debating forum; it is a discussion forum, I, unlike some, leave the evidence to those more qualified. The only 'evidence' I have seen from you is the 'view' of a minority of partially knowledgeable people and a few loonies. It would appear that my viewpoint needs evidence and proof whilst yours just needs denial. I do however believe in the idea that "every action has an equal and opposite reaction". |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Nov 17, 2022 5:21:26 GMT
Well sort of. You could say business as usual. The thing was Truss did make some logical mistakes which would cause the kind of chaos that ensued, like no hidden hand needed. What will they do about the Brics dedollarisation plan though? We have a lot invested in the US dollar. We are one of the world's top backers. People need to realise that chaos is only generated and engineered by Globalists like the Soros Posse … even if Truss had a sound economic plan and a top economist steering this Country out of debt and paying back all our creditors … that isn’t what Globalist Totalitarian Agenda players want … at the very top … they only make huge profits from chaos and panic, Sanctions and War. Soros drained the Bank of England of it’s gold reserves back @‘92 … Why do we invest in the currency of a Country that repeatedly shafts us … why don’t we have Bankers that invest in the Pound and building Briton’s fortunes… not boosting American and Israeli interests all the time. We need a Reset Programme … away from debt dependancy and WEF/IMF manipulation. … we called for that with the Brexit VOTE … we are still looking for leadership that will deliver. Time to move away from the Tory/Labour mindset that never delivers … we need a Farage Government with top advisors who know what they are doing. Iceland found indigenous leaders and advisors that steered them out of chronic debt and the clutches of IMF/WEF dependency … why can’t we create a political/leadership climate that attracts top people …?? …. Because we have a ROTTEN Media owned and run by foreign linked tribal factions who have always had designs to enslave us. … address that problem …and flush the System … and we might have a chance at significant change … environmentally too. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 17, 2022 7:42:12 GMT
You made an assertion that you were unable to back up - personally I dont consider your 'common sense' valid evidence. A lot of dead people say that. This is not actually a scientific debating forum; it is a discussion forum, I, unlike some, leave the evidence to those more qualified. The only 'evidence' I have seen from you is the 'view' of a minority of partially knowledgeable people and a few loonies. It would appear that my viewpoint needs evidence and proof whilst yours just needs denial.
I do however believe in the idea that "every action has an equal and opposite reaction". But I never claimed anything. It was you who suggested that man-made CO2 can drastically change normal climatic variations. A claim based on nothing but faith and 'common sense' apparently. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2022 8:14:00 GMT
A lot of dead people say that. This is not actually a scientific debating forum; it is a discussion forum, I, unlike some, leave the evidence to those more qualified. The only 'evidence' I have seen from you is the 'view' of a minority of partially knowledgeable people and a few loonies. It would appear that my viewpoint needs evidence and proof whilst yours just needs denial.
I do however believe in the idea that "every action has an equal and opposite reaction". But I never claimed anything. It was you who suggested that man-made CO2 can drastically change normal climatic variations. A claim based on nothing but faith and 'common sense' apparently. The only claim I have made is that humans have significantly made a difference to global warming. linkYou on the other hand appear to believe it is a 'made up' threat, rather like Piers Corbyn and his view of vaccines. If you cannot see what is in front of your face, get better glasses. |
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