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Post by Dogburger on Dec 18, 2023 22:29:12 GMT
Yes saw that , the people at the BBC who have years of experience of knowing what people want to watch have given way to answering to Woke . 50 years of being a top rated show destroyed by diversity quotas and poor recruitment . Top sports stars of the day replaced by people nobody would have any chance of getting in the mystery personality round if they stood face on to the camera and they wonder why its lost viewers . And don't even go there with Paddy Guinness , about as funny as Jeremy Corbyn knocking on your door at midnight . Football focus and most day time TV has gone the same way with quotas being all to evident . Dr Who might just survive its new cast ,surely even the BBC cant feck that up even though they are doing their best casting a gay black actor in the lead role . Hardly Jon Pertwee is it ? Not a great example. Jon Pertwee was an early adapter of ''woke''. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_PertweeAs good an example as any of the older Dr's . I didn't know the Pertwee story you allude to but surely that was a question of discrimination and an actor supporting his co-star which Im sure most would agree with . That's a long way from diversity quotas .
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Post by Montegriffo on Dec 18, 2023 22:35:58 GMT
As good an example as any of the older Dr's . I didn't know the Pertwee story you allude to but surely that was a question of discrimination and an actor supporting his co-star which Im sure most would agree with . That's a long way from diversity quotas . If you are opposed to discrimination in any form these days someone will be along to label you as 'woke'.
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 18, 2023 23:23:01 GMT
As good an example as any of the older Dr's . I didn't know the Pertwee story you allude to but surely that was a question of discrimination and an actor supporting his co-star which Im sure most would agree with . That's a long way from diversity quotas . If you are opposed to discrimination in any form these days someone will be along to label you as 'woke'. I oppose discrimination, no one has ever accused me of being woke.
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Post by Dogburger on Dec 19, 2023 6:13:06 GMT
As good an example as any of the older Dr's . I didn't know the Pertwee story you allude to but surely that was a question of discrimination and an actor supporting his co-star which Im sure most would agree with . That's a long way from diversity quotas . If you are opposed to discrimination in any form these days someone will be along to label you as 'woke'. Some are too keen to try to attach labels that don't stick
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 19:14:56 GMT
Re the TV license. My laptop is VPN enabled for added security. This is relevent because on the rare occasions when I want to watch something on the BBC I prefer to do so at a time of my choosing via iplayer. Yet I keep being denied access because they think I am accessing their service from outside the country, even though I have logged in under my own name whose address and payment details they have on record. It wants me to shut down VPN for an hour or so which I refuse to do just for their stupid convenience. So I find myself unable to view anything on iplayer for sometimes several hours, sometimes several days, sometimes a couple of weeks, then for no rhyme or reason I get access again.
The way I see it is that they keep refusing me a service I am paying for for no good reason. I have told them in the past that if this keeps happening, I will cancel my BBC license quarterly debit. It happened again last night. So I have done it. Cancelled my license debit.
Fact is, I rarely watch BBC News24 anymore since it's merger with World News because it mostly seems to be foreign news now. When I was in the Labour party my faith in its impartiality was utterly destroyed, since when I have come to view it as one of the propaganda arms of the establishment elite. I can very easily do without the BBC altogether, in fact I could easily do without TV entirely. And I refuse in any case to keep paying for an organisation which keeps refusing me what I am paying for. Nor do I have any interest in funding establishment propaganda. Good quality dramas that I might want to watch are few are far between and I can easily do without.
They can send me all the threatening letters they like. They can send twats to my door. I wont answer it unless I am expecting someone. If I do find myself opening the door to one I will refuse him access as is my right and tell him to fuck off. If he tries to force his way past me I will use greater force to manhandle the twat and physically throw him out. I am quite a big guy and would have little difficulty in doing that to most people (at least not yet whilst Parkinsons is not seriously impairing me).
I am not going to take any shit from the pigging BBC.
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 20, 2023 20:07:53 GMT
Re the TV license. My laptop is VPN enabled for added security. This is relevent because on the rare occasions when I want to watch something on the BBC I prefer to do so at a time of my choosing via iplayer. Yet I keep being denied access because they think I am accessing their service from outside the country, even though I have logged in under my own name whose address and payment details they have on record. It wants me to shut down VPN for an hour or so which I refuse to do just for their stupid convenience. So I find myself unable to view anything on iplayer for sometimes several hours, sometimes several days, sometimes a couple of weeks, then for no rhyme or reason I get access again. The way I see it is that they keep refusing me a service I am paying for for no good reason. I have told them in the past that if this keeps happening, I will cancel my BBC license quarterly debit. It happened again last night. So I have done it. Cancelled my license debit. Fact is, I rarely watch BBC News24 anymore since it's merger with World News because it mostly seems to be foreign news now. When I was in the Labour party my faith in its impartiality was utterly destroyed, since when I have come to view it as one of the propaganda arms of the establishment elite. I can very easily do without the BBC altogether, in fact I could easily do without TV entirely. And I refuse in any case to keep paying for an organisation which keeps refusing me what I am paying for. Nor do I have any interest in funding establishment propaganda. Good quality dramas that I might want to watch are few are far between and I can easily do without. They can send me all the threatening letters they like. They can send twats to my door. I wont answer it unless I am expecting someone. If I do find myself opening the door to one I will refuse him access as is my right and tell him to fuck off. If he tries to force his way past me I will use greater force to manhandle the twat and physically throw him out. I am quite a big guy and would have little difficulty in doing that to most people (at least not yet whilst Parkinsons is not seriously impairing me). I am not going to take any shit from the pigging BBC.... And so say ALL of us.
Time to bring the BBC down to earth with a thud, we don't need the BBC, the BBC needs us ........ the mug licence fee payers.
STOP paying our licence fees bring a class action law proceedings against them, let's see how they can cope taking on thousands of 'none paying' licence fee households.
They haven't got the money, they will fold up, let's Call their bluff.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 21:24:10 GMT
I have recently discovered the joys of BBC IPlayer and once again I have to both disagree with posters and also point out that there is no other TV service, channel or network which can come anywhere near to comparison for (A) the quality of output, and (B) the price we pay for it.
No other TV service, either terrestrial, Satelite, Cable, Internet or Pay As You View, broadcasts or streams as many British made programmes, without adverts, with the least amount of repeats.
No wonder our BBC is The Tops
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 20, 2023 22:10:15 GMT
I have recently discovered the joys of BBC IPlayer and once again I have to both disagree with posters and also point out that there is no other TV service, channel or network which can come anywhere near to comparison for (A) the quality of output, and (B) the price we pay for it. No other TV service, either terrestrial, Satelite, Cable, Internet or Pay As You View, broadcasts or streams as many British made programmes, without adverts, with the least amount of repeats. No wonder our BBC is The Tops If its as good as you claim then surely there is no issue with it going to a subscription payment model like many other TV services. The only problem that would arise is if it is not as good as you claim...
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Post by borchester on Dec 20, 2023 22:57:08 GMT
I have recently discovered the joys of BBC IPlayer and once again I have to both disagree with posters and also point out that there is no other TV service, channel or network which can come anywhere near to comparison for (A) the quality of output, and (B) the price we pay for it. No other TV service, either terrestrial, Satelite, Cable, Internet or Pay As You View, broadcasts or streams as many British made programmes, without adverts, with the least amount of repeats. No wonder our BBC is The Tops If its as good as you claim then surely there is no issue with it going to a subscription payment model like many other TV services. The only problem that would arise is if it is not as good as you claim... Sounds good.
If Sid likes the BBC and is happy to pay for it well, there you are.
On the other hand, I don't and ain't and won't.
So everyone is happy and how bad is that ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2023 0:21:36 GMT
I have recently discovered the joys of BBC IPlayer and once again I have to both disagree with posters and also point out that there is no other TV service, channel or network which can come anywhere near to comparison for (A) the quality of output, and (B) the price we pay for it. No other TV service, either terrestrial, Satelite, Cable, Internet or Pay As You View, broadcasts or streams as many British made programmes, without adverts, with the least amount of repeats. No wonder our BBC is The Tops If its as good as you claim then surely there is no issue with it going to a subscription payment model like many other TV services. The only problem that would arise is if it is not as good as you claim... Two things to point out here, firstly according to the ratings, the BBC is number 1 when it comes to popularity and viewers, which quite frankly does not surprise me. Secondly, if you think about it, if the BBC became subscription only, its income would fall, therefore its quality would also fall. The point I have been trying to get accross is that the BBC is "Top Of The Pops" and beats all its rivals because it has the funds to produce BETTER programing - reduce its funds and its ability to produce quality output is reduced.
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Post by borchester on Dec 21, 2023 0:41:34 GMT
If its as good as you claim then surely there is no issue with it going to a subscription payment model like many other TV services. The only problem that would arise is if it is not as good as you claim... Two things to point out here, firstly according to the ratings, the BBC is number 1 when it comes to popularity and viewers, which quite frankly does not surprise me. Secondly, if you think about it, if the BBC became subscription only, its income would fall, therefore its quality would also fall. The point I have been trying to get accross is that the BBC is "Top Of The Pops" and beats all its rivals because it has the funds to produce BETTER programing - reduce its funds and its ability to produce quality output is reduced. That is your problem Sid, not ours.
Time to put your money where your mouth is.
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Post by borchester on Dec 21, 2023 1:43:36 GMT
If its as good as you claim then surely there is no issue with it going to a subscription payment model like many other TV services. The only problem that would arise is if it is not as good as you claim... Two things to point out here, firstly according to the ratings, the BBC is number 1 when it comes to popularity and viewers, which quite frankly does not surprise me. Secondly, if you think about it, if the BBC became subscription only, its income would fall, therefore its quality would also fall. The point I have been trying to get accross is that the BBC is "Top Of The Pops" and beats all its rivals because it has the funds to produce BETTER programing - reduce its funds and its ability to produce quality output is reduced. Which comes back to our earlier point, if you want to keep the BBC going, then put your hand in your pocket, because I ain't.
I have just received another threat from the Beeb's licencing department which I have put to good use. We have been getting them on at least a monthly basis for the last fourteen years and no one ever turns up. And it would not matter if they did because we don't actually have a telly. But sending the letters out keeps someone in a job and they are printed on cheap, absorbent paper which, as mentioned earlier, comes in handy.
So everyone wins
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2023 10:17:26 GMT
Anyone able to explain the logic which says the licence fee, which funds the BBC must be paid by anyone who watches any live TV. Why can't people watch ITV, CH4, Sky etc. without a licence?
Answers on a postcard... to BBC Broadcasting House, London W1A 1AA
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Post by patman post on Dec 21, 2023 11:57:50 GMT
Somebody has to pay for the broadcasting transmission infrastructure of around 1500 sites covering the UK from Alexandra Palace to Zouches Farm — these are now operated by Arqiva
Commercial broadcasters fund themselves through advertising and some programmes sales. Even some public service broadcasters are partially funded by advertising. The BBC is funded by the licence and programmes sales, as the theory is/was it should be free from outside coercion and/or influence.
While there are many different proposals on how to remove the licence fee, which contributes towards the transmission infrastructure for radio and TV, so far none have been generally accepted.
Looking up the history and evolution of Arqiva illustrates the funding difficulties for just the technical aspect of devising a free-at-the-point-of-reception model for the UK…
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2023 17:22:01 GMT
I suppose the bottom line is tha I, and many others, value the quality of output from the BBC, and the fact that without the BBC we would be swamped with even more American shite, cheap programmes and endless repeats with long, drawn out commercial breaks.
Some posters are clearly happy for British TV content to be dragged down, and for the BBC to be more or less defunded.
But I will always argue in favour of spending less than the price of a pint of beer per week to keep it, and that it should be mandatory to do so.
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