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Post by Pacifico on Dec 7, 2023 18:20:18 GMT
Here are some facts to consider 1 BBC1 is the most watched TV channel on TV in this country, beating ITV, SKY and all other commercial channels The reason for this is becauuse the BBC can afford to but on better quality programming, which includes less repeats than any other channel, more home made and BRITISH content, and less cheap programming, including imported, cheap foreign programmes. 2 BBC News continues to be the most watched news source in the UK, also the most listened to news source not only in the UK, but across the world. The reason for this is that the funding sources allow the BBC to beat its competitors by producing quality news content, having more correspondents across the world, and as the worlds most trusted source of news, a reputation that the BBC has held for generations. 3 If we do not fund our BBC properly ( by funding in line with inflation ), then it will do considerable harm to British culture. The BBC is now the only British TV station which makes / produces childrens programmes, unless the BBC is properly funded, we are at risk of feeding our children a diet of almost entirely American programming, and the programmes I grew up with, such as Blue Peter, which educates, informs and entertains will be lost. IF YOU MAKE THE BBC INTO A SUBSCRIPTION OR PAY AS YOU WATCH CHANNEL Its income will fall considerably, it will be relegated to just the same as all the other commercial channels, churning out endless repeats, imported programming, cheap content and it would put at risk your local BBC TV News, your local BBC radio station, BBC News & current affairs and it would risk there been no British made childrens programmes. The bottom line here is that if you want our BBC to continue as the market leader, producing the most popular, quality programming, then lets fund it properly. Interesting argument - you have (allegedly) the best TV company in the world making the best programs. But, people will not voluntarily pay for them.. ..are you sure it's as good as you say?  |
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 7, 2023 18:23:06 GMT
The BBC licence fee will rise from £159 to £169.50 next year, a £10.50 increase. Culture Secretary Lucy Frazer said: We know that if we want the BBC to succeed we cannot freeze its income but at the same time we cannot ask households to pay more for the BBC indefinitely. www.gbnews.com/politics/bbc-licence-fee-increaseThe BBC are frightened to go down the pay-per-view or subscription route because they know it would be the end for the BBC because millions of people, particularly young people don't watch BBC tv. And besides, keeping left wing Lineker in the millionaire lifestyle he has become used to isn't cheap. I stopped paying for a licence years ago mate. The BBC can stuff their licence up there lefty woke biased arse. I applaud the sentiment. I grudgingly comply and pay the BBC to watch ITV, for now anyway. |
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Post by dappy on Dec 7, 2023 18:25:18 GMT
As a society Red we have decided we want to have a state broadcaster for all the reasons that have been posted above. You pay tax to fund it. In our society you don’t get an opt out of paying tax for state services you don’t use. I still pay for schools my kids don’t use, I won’t need Neo-Natal services going forwards. I pay huge amounts for boys to play with their toys. Suck it up, it’s part of a civilised society. If you don’t like it go and live in Brussels….
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Post by jonksy on Dec 7, 2023 18:41:20 GMT
Here are some facts to consider 1 BBC1 is the most watched TV channel on TV in this country, beating ITV, SKY and all other commercial channels The reason for this is becauuse the BBC can afford to but on better quality programming, which includes less repeats than any other channel, more home made and BRITISH content, and less cheap programming, including imported, cheap foreign programmes. 2 BBC News continues to be the most watched news source in the UK, also the most listened to news source not only in the UK, but across the world. The reason for this is that the funding sources allow the BBC to beat its competitors by producing quality news content, having more correspondents across the world, and as the worlds most trusted source of news, a reputation that the BBC has held for generations. 3 If we do not fund our BBC properly ( by funding in line with inflation ), then it will do considerable harm to British culture. The BBC is now the only British TV station which makes / produces childrens programmes, unless the BBC is properly funded, we are at risk of feeding our children a diet of almost entirely American programming, and the programmes I grew up with, such as Blue Peter, which educates, informs and entertains will be lost. IF YOU MAKE THE BBC INTO A SUBSCRIPTION OR PAY AS YOU WATCH CHANNEL Its income will fall considerably, it will be relegated to just the same as all the other commercial channels, churning out endless repeats, imported programming, cheap content and it would put at risk your local BBC TV News, your local BBC radio station, BBC News & current affairs and it would risk there been no British made childrens programmes. The bottom line here is that if you want our BBC to continue as the market leader, producing the most popular, quality programming, then lets fund it properly. Why would anyone in their right mind listen to or watch their biased bullshit? |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 7, 2023 18:42:07 GMT
The BBC has never been a “state broadcaster".
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Post by jonksy on Dec 7, 2023 18:45:09 GMT
I stopped paying for a licence years ago mate. The BBC can stuff their licence up there lefty woke biased arse. I applaud the sentiment. I grudgingly comply and pay the BBC to watch ITV, for now anyway. They cannot force you to have a licence mate. There is stacks of info on Utube about avoiding this farce. It's high time the general public statedto fight back. I love a bit of hastle now and then mate...LOL |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 7, 2023 18:47:42 GMT
Imo radio 4 was the jewel in the BBC crown . The rest is much of muchness .
The last few times I’ve listened to Radio 4 it’s been cringingly woke . Every thing has a woke message in there somewhere .
I don’t want to pay for that and I certainly don’t want to pay for it in order to watch commercial television .
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 7, 2023 18:56:27 GMT
I applaud the sentiment. I grudgingly comply and pay the BBC to watch ITV, for now anyway. They cannot force you to have a licence mate. There is stacks of info on Utube about avoiding this farce. It's high time the general public statedto fight back. I love a bit of hastle now and then mate...LOL Yes indeed I've seen some of the info on YouTube ref how to avoid buying a BBC tv licence, but essentially anyone who watches live ITV content, must by law buy a BBC tv licence. It's a racket. www.defundbbc.uk/ |
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 7, 2023 19:03:51 GMT
Imo radio 4 was the jewel in the BBC crown . The rest is much of muchness . The last few times I’ve listened to Radio 4 it’s been cringingly woke . Every thing has a woke message in there somewhere . I don’t want to pay for that and I certainly don’t want to pay for it in order to watch commercial television . I used to listen to R4 all the time, but I eventually got fed up with listening to presenters, many with unpronounceable names, peddling an increasingly left wing woke anti Brit agenda. I don't know whether you have ever complained to the BBC, I have, and it's an utterly pointless exercise. The BBC do not accept criticism. So the only course of action left open to me is to tune out of BBC tv & radio. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2023 19:08:16 GMT
Here are some facts to consider 1 BBC1 is the most watched TV channel on TV in this country, beating ITV, SKY and all other commercial channels The reason for this is becauuse the BBC can afford to but on better quality programming, which includes less repeats than any other channel, more home made and BRITISH content, and less cheap programming, including imported, cheap foreign programmes. 2 BBC News continues to be the most watched news source in the UK, also the most listened to news source not only in the UK, but across the world. The reason for this is that the funding sources allow the BBC to beat its competitors by producing quality news content, having more correspondents across the world, and as the worlds most trusted source of news, a reputation that the BBC has held for generations. 3 If we do not fund our BBC properly ( by funding in line with inflation ), then it will do considerable harm to British culture. The BBC is now the only British TV station which makes / produces childrens programmes, unless the BBC is properly funded, we are at risk of feeding our children a diet of almost entirely American programming, and the programmes I grew up with, such as Blue Peter, which educates, informs and entertains will be lost. IF YOU MAKE THE BBC INTO A SUBSCRIPTION OR PAY AS YOU WATCH CHANNEL Its income will fall considerably, it will be relegated to just the same as all the other commercial channels, churning out endless repeats, imported programming, cheap content and it would put at risk your local BBC TV News, your local BBC radio station, BBC News & current affairs and it would risk there been no British made childrens programmes. The bottom line here is that if you want our BBC to continue as the market leader, producing the most popular, quality programming, then lets fund it properly. The BBC now has adverts, for its own programmes. It should gradually have its share reduced so that it has equal funding with other big channels. What you are proposing is that the BBC should be dragged DOWN to the same level as the commercial stations, with the much poorer quality of programming that would automatically come with it. Endless repeats, cheap programming, and a high rate of imports. No Thank You |
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Post by bancroft on Dec 7, 2023 19:08:37 GMT
Imo radio 4 was the jewel in the BBC crown . The rest is much of muchness . The last few times I’ve listened to Radio 4 it’s been cringingly woke . Every thing has a woke message in there somewhere . I don’t want to pay for that and I certainly don’t want to pay for it in order to watch commercial television . I used to listen to R4 all the time, but I eventually got fed up with listening to presenters, many with unpronounceable names, peddling an increasingly left wing woke anti Brit agenda. I don't know whether you have ever complained to the BBC, I have, and it's an utterly pointless exercise. The BBC do not accept criticism. So the only course of action left open to me is to tune out of BBC tv & radio. I do this with my Dad instead of watching Eastenders I ask if he would rather watch Wheeler Dealers. Wheeler Dealers every time. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 7, 2023 19:13:00 GMT
Imo radio 4 was the jewel in the BBC crown . The rest is much of muchness . The last few times I’ve listened to Radio 4 it’s been cringingly woke . Every thing has a woke message in there somewhere . I don’t want to pay for that and I certainly don’t want to pay for it in order to watch commercial television . I used to listen to R4 all the time, but I eventually got fed up with listening to presenters, many with unpronounceable names, peddling an increasingly left wing woke anti Brit agenda. I don't know whether you have ever complained to the BBC, I have, and it's an utterly pointless exercise. The BBC do not accept criticism. So the only course of action left open to me is to tune out of BBC tv & radio. Imo it was noticeable about 5 years ago but still worth listening to. I just can’t listen to it now. From comedy to ‘ drama’ and ‘ history’ there is always an injection of wokeness. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 7, 2023 20:54:37 GMT
What you are proposing is that the BBC should be dragged DOWN to the same level as the commercial stations, with the much poorer quality of programming that would automatically come with it. Endless repeats, cheap programming, and a high rate of imports. No Thank You It's a bit late in the day to presenting that argument given that ITV was given the go-ahead in 1955.
But there was never any intention that the BBC would feel compelled to compete with commercial television it just turned out that way.
Perhaps funding the state broadcaster from a politically-sensitive license fee was the reason why. In most continental countries they are funded from general taxation and their continuing existence is pretty much a non-issue.
If you want to experience life without something like the BBC (or TF1, or ARD etc) just spend some time in America and let us know how you like the telly offerings there.
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 7, 2023 21:13:13 GMT
I used to listen to R4 all the time, but I eventually got fed up with listening to presenters, many with unpronounceable names, peddling an increasingly left wing woke anti Brit agenda. I don't know whether you have ever complained to the BBC, I have, and it's an utterly pointless exercise. The BBC do not accept criticism. So the only course of action left open to me is to tune out of BBC tv & radio. It might surprise you to learn that the present Controller of Radio 4 (since 2019) is Mohit Bakaya, who turns out to be the brother of the new Chairman of the BBC, Samir Shah.
Then again, it might not.
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 7, 2023 21:18:10 GMT
I used to listen to R4 all the time, but I eventually got fed up with listening to presenters, many with unpronounceable names, peddling an increasingly left wing woke anti Brit agenda. I don't know whether you have ever complained to the BBC, I have, and it's an utterly pointless exercise. The BBC do not accept criticism. So the only course of action left open to me is to tune out of BBC tv & radio. It might surprise you to learn that the present Controller of Radio 4 (since 2019) is Mohit Bakaya, who turns out to be the brother of the new Chairman of the BBC, Samir Shah.
Then again, it might not.
I was unaware of the relationship. I am aware however that a few years ago Samir Shah said there were too many black and Asian faces on TV. I wonder how his appointment as Chairman has gone down with the left wing BBC wokerati. |
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