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Post by Pacifico on Nov 11, 2022 11:42:58 GMT
I cannot see what difference it makes who wants to take the credit, it made no sense, even if you take into account the UK produces less than 1% of the world's pollution. 1% is a false figure. It takes into account only the CO2 produced in the UK and doesn't include the emissions from the products we import. Even ignoring CO2 from imports the UK is still ranked at 15th in the list of the worst polluters. If you calculate CO2 emissions per capita we creep up to 11th and if you include historic emissions we leap up to 5th.
Why would you do that as you cannot put historical emissions back in the bottle. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 11, 2022 11:48:34 GMT
1% is a false figure. It takes into account only the CO2 produced in the UK and doesn't include the emissions from the products we import. Even ignoring CO2 from imports the UK is still ranked at 15th in the list of the worst polluters. If you calculate CO2 emissions per capita we creep up to 11th and if you include historic emissions we leap up to 5th.
Why would you do that as you cannot put historical emissions back in the bottle. To show the UK's true culpability. There are many ways to capture carbon. Planting more trees for example. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 11, 2022 11:50:43 GMT
Why would you do that as you cannot put historical emissions back in the bottle. To show the UK's true culpability. There are many ways to capture carbon. Planting more trees for example.or better still stop cutting down old ones. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 11, 2022 11:56:22 GMT
I cannot see what difference it makes who wants to take the credit, it made no sense, even if you take into account the UK produces less than 1% of the world's pollution. 1% is a false figure. It takes into account only the CO2 produced in the UK and doesn't include the emissions from the products we import. Even ignoring CO2 from imports the UK is still ranked at 15th in the list of the worst polluters. If you calculate CO2 emissions per capita we creep up to 11th and if you include historic emissions we leap up to 5th.
I don't care. I know, I'm a bad man.
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 11, 2022 12:00:22 GMT
1% is a false figure. It takes into account only the CO2 produced in the UK and doesn't include the emissions from the products we import. Even ignoring CO2 from imports the UK is still ranked at 15th in the list of the worst polluters. If you calculate CO2 emissions per capita we creep up to 11th and if you include historic emissions we leap up to 5th.
I don't care. I know, I'm a bad man.
Your children and grandchildren will care. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 11, 2022 12:02:34 GMT
I don't care. I know, I'm a bad man.
Your children and grandchildren will care. They are also taught to believe in Father Christmas, it doesn't mean it is true. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 11, 2022 12:03:42 GMT
I don't care. I know, I'm a bad man.
Your children and grandchildren will care. So I keep getting told.
But I think it more likely that we're going to spend a lot of money and make a lot of people very uncomfortable over a thing that we can actually do nothing about.
And that's assuming that the thing is actually a thing in the first place of which I am not convinced.
And I don't care about young Tarquin-gluing-himself-to-the-road's future either, after all we're hardly going to miss his “contribution” to society.
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Post by Toreador on Nov 11, 2022 12:06:19 GMT
Your children and grandchildren will care. So I keep getting told.
But I think it more likely that we're going to spend a lot of money and make a lot of people very uncomfortable over a thing that we can actually do nothing about.
And that's assuming that the thing is actually a thing in the first place of which I am not convinced.
And I don't care about young Tarquin-gluing-himself-to-the-road's future either, after all we're hardly going to miss his “contribution” to society.
He does it to be close to all that bitumen produced from oil. I'd be tempted to leave him there but for the skid risk.  |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 11, 2022 12:06:58 GMT
Your children and grandchildren will care. So I keep getting told.
But I think it more likely that we're going to spend a lot of money and make a lot of people very uncomfortable over a thing that we can actually do nothing about.
And that's assuming that the thing is actually a thing in the first place of which I am not convinced.
And I don't care about young Tarquin-gluing-himself-to-the-road's future either, after all we're hardly going to miss his “contribution” to society.
You cannot say that we haven't fixed the sun yet, a tall order maybe as long as we throw cash at it, it will be fine, like the weather. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 11, 2022 12:11:17 GMT
That's just what we need - a Sun tax, that'll fix everything. And we can levy it on the poorest in society - for their own good.
Hurrah and Huzzah!
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Post by Toreador on Nov 11, 2022 12:13:26 GMT
That's just what we need - a Sun tax, that'll fix everything. And we can levy it on the poorest in society - for their own good. Hurrah and Huzzah! I'll buy a parasol for tax avoidance. |
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