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Post by sandypine on Dec 9, 2023 20:49:46 GMT
There are about 50 guests at the moment some may be following this thread and observing your antics, by all means you can keep it up if you wish. The evidence is contained in my post about three hours ago which you in totally ignored, by all means refute those points with reasoned debate but you seem to be stuck in 'crackpot theory' mode which I sure does not address any of the points. This is Mind Zone. I'm entitled to ask for evidence to support an argument, particularly when it's so outrageous as the claim that genocide is being committed in the UK. And the 'guests' are bots. They won't mind. Of course you are but it seems rude in the Mind Zone to behave as though it is not presented and as regards the last bit perhaps they are but can you be sure. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 9, 2023 20:51:26 GMT
I never said I don’t believe genocide is happening. I said I never claimed that genocide is happening . As I pointed out in the post you replied to ..you don’t seem bright enough to tell the difference. Hold on! let's look at what you said again. Pay particular attention to the part in bold: ‘So we both agree that I never claimed that genocide was being committed . So why have you repeatedly accused me of claiming this when I have done nothing of the kind ? Did you do this maliciously or was you incapable of following a simple premise ?’
If you actually believe that genocide is being committed, why would it be malicious to say that's what you believe? This never works out for you or Bubbles. Nobody ever believes you when you claim to have said something that you plainly did say. We both know, everyone knows, your above post was an attempt to refute the idea that you believe genocide is occurring. You still don’t seem to know the difference between I don’t believe genocide is happening. and I said I never claimed that genocide is happening. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 9, 2023 20:51:42 GMT
There are about 50 guests at the moment some may be following this thread and observing your antics, by all means you can keep it up if you wish. The evidence is contained in my post about three hours ago which you in totally ignored, by all means refute those points with reasoned debate but you seem to be stuck in 'crackpot theory' mode which I sure does not address any of the points. This is the Mind Zone. I'm entitled to ask for evidence in support an argument, particularly when it's as outrageous as the claim that genocide is being committed in the UK. And the 'guests' are bots. They won't mind. They could be the new English as in replacement for the olde English. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 9, 2023 20:52:22 GMT
This is Mind Zone. I'm entitled to ask for evidence to support an argument, particularly when it's so outrageous as the claim that genocide is being committed in the UK. And the 'guests' are bots. They won't mind. Of course you are but it seems rude in the Mind Zone to behave as though it is not presented and as regards the last bit perhaps they are but can you be sure. Then you must have a different notion of what evidence is. What you have presented as evidence is mere self-serving inference. Humanitarian and economic motivations could be inferred from what you have presented. But, instead, you have decided to go with the outlandish claim that the motivation is genocide. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 9, 2023 20:52:53 GMT
Hold on! let's look at what you said again. Pay particular attention to the part in bold: ‘So we both agree that I never claimed that genocide was being committed . So why have you repeatedly accused me of claiming this when I have done nothing of the kind ? Did you do this maliciously or was you incapable of following a simple premise ?’
If you actually believe that genocide is being committed, why would it be malicious to say that's what you believe? This never works out for you or Bubbles. Nobody ever believes you when you claim to have said something that you plainly did say. We both know, everyone knows, your above post was an attempt to refute the idea that you believe genocide is occurring. You still don’t seem to know the difference between I don’t believe genocide is happening. and I said I never claimed that genocide is happening. You've been caught out in a lie. Own it, and move on. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 9, 2023 20:57:23 GMT
You still don’t seem to know the difference between I don’t believe genocide is happening. and I said I never claimed that genocide is happening. You've been caught out in a lie. Own it, and move on. What lie? |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 9, 2023 20:58:46 GMT
You've been caught out in a lie. Own it, and move on. What lie? You don't believe that genocide is happening in the UK. That's a fact. Any claims you have made to the contrary today are simply not representative of what you actually believe. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 9, 2023 20:59:15 GMT
Of course you are but it seems rude in the Mind Zone to behave as though it is not presented and as regards the last bit perhaps they are but can you be sure. Then you must have a different notion of what evidence is. What you have presented as evidence is mere self-serving inference. Humanitarian and economic motivations could be inferred from what you have presented. But, instead, you have decided to go with the outlandish claim that the motivation is genocide. Circumstantial evidence is still evidence and has resulted in many's a successful prosecution. A reasoned refutation of why the evidence is irrelevant in your view would be a good start however it is not each item in isolation that tells the tale it is the outcome that has ensued that helps the case. There may be no intent anywhere to eradicate something but if the result is still eradication then when it is noted it is stopped and if it is not then intent has to be suspected. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 9, 2023 21:00:44 GMT
You don't believe that genocide is happening in the UK. That's a fact. Any claims you have made to the contrary today are simply not representative of what you actually believe. I repeat You still don’t seem to know the difference between “I don’t believe genocide is happening.” and “I said I never claimed that genocide is happening.” You seem to be making up false claims to cover your inabilities darling .Accept that and move on . |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 9, 2023 21:02:42 GMT
Then you must have a different notion of what evidence is. What you have presented as evidence is mere self-serving inference. Humanitarian and economic motivations could be inferred from what you have presented. But, instead, you have decided to go with the outlandish claim that the motivation is genocide. Circumstantial evidence is still evidence and has resulted in many's a successful prosecution. A reasoned refutation of why the evidence is irrelevant in your view would be a good start however it is not each item in isolation that tells the tale it is the outcome that has ensued that helps the case. There may be no intent anywhere to eradicate something but if the result is still eradication then when it is noted it is stopped and if it is not then intent has to be suspected. What you have presented as evidence is nothing more than self-serving inference. It is irrelevant because no good faith actor could reasonably reach the conclusion that genocide is the intention of a group or groups acting for what they have stated to be humanitarian or economic reasons. The presumption of innocence requires that you adduce something, other than a bigoted opinion, as evidence to support your claim. A bigoted opinion is not, nor has it ever been, circumstantial evidence. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 9, 2023 21:04:22 GMT
You don't believe that genocide is happening in the UK. That's a fact. Any claims you have made to the contrary today are simply not representative of what you actually believe. I repeat You still don’t seem to know the difference between “I don’t believe genocide is happening.” and “I said I never claimed that genocide is happening.” You seem to be making up false claims to cover your inabilities darling .Accept that and move on . You were caught in a self-contradiction. Accept that, and move on. You will doubtless respond with your usual wit that 'you were caught in (insert some nonsense), accept that and move on.' Enjoy! |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 9, 2023 21:05:20 GMT
I repeat You still don’t seem to know the difference between “I don’t believe genocide is happening.” and “I said I never claimed that genocide is happening.” You seem to be making up false claims to cover your inabilities darling .Accept that and move on . You were caught in a self-contradiction. Accept that, and move on. You will doubtless respond with your usual wit that 'you were caught in (insert some nonsense), accept that and move on.' Enjoy! What self contradiction? |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 9, 2023 21:18:13 GMT
You were caught in a self-contradiction. Accept that, and move on. You will doubtless respond with your usual wit that 'you were caught in (insert some nonsense), accept that and move on.' Enjoy! What self contradiction? Looks like the accusation of my ‘self contradiction’ was false then . Ok. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 9, 2023 21:20:00 GMT
Looks like the accusation of my ‘self contradiction’ was false then . Ok. Your defence, if it can be called that, is of your usual calibre. It wouldn't pass the man on the Clapham omnibus test. No big deal. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 9, 2023 21:21:38 GMT
Looks like the accusation of my ‘self contradiction’ was false then . Ok. Your defence, if it can be called that, is of your usual calibre. It wouldn't pass the man on the Clapham omnibus test. No big deal. Ok . What self contradiction? Are you going to support your claim or not ? |
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