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Post by happyhornet on Dec 8, 2023 18:41:31 GMT
I have never claimed that David Lammy was ethnic English, I've said he is English. They can still define themselves as ethnically English wherever they live. I don't think many people would recognise any kids they had after settling abroad as English even though they would be ethnically English. Which is the point he is not English he is British, that is his defined Nationality, legally. Entwining himself into an English identity usurps those who have an English identity. Wanting to be English is not the same as actually being English and English, as we have seen, is defined as the English people, howsoever that is defined mostly by the English. We allow Native Americans to define themselves and who is and is not Native American, we allow Aborigines to define themselves and we allow ethnic groups all over the world to define themselves, the English alone seem to be the sole people who are denied that right. The English were in India for three hundred years, sometimes about a dozen generations were born and bred in India, to the Indians they were still the English and to the English they were still the English. A land of birth does not change ethnicity unless you integrate as a step to allowing assimilation. Again you're conflating ethnicity with nationality which are two different things. There is more to a nation and it's people than ethnicity. Do you deny the existence of English culture, customs, values? Are you saying that Winston Churchill and Boris Johnson are not English? |
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Post by happyhornet on Dec 8, 2023 18:42:44 GMT
Shouldn't your post be in the conspiracy theory section? Conspiracy is akin to religion it is not rooted in any evidence. We have oodles of evidence that a concerted attack on the English as an existing ethnic group is being carried out culturally and historically and by those who claim it is non-existent. If the evidence points to a situation it is not just a theory it passes scientific evaluation. Is there any test or evidence you could present that refutes the theory? What evidence? |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 8, 2023 18:43:20 GMT
Conspiracy is akin to religion it is not rooted in any evidence. We have oodles of evidence that a concerted attack on the English as an existing ethnic group is being carried out culturally and historically and by those who claim it is non-existent. If the evidence points to a situation it is not just a theory it passes scientific evaluation. Is there any test or evidence you could present that refutes the theory? So, you think a group of people got together in a room and decided to wipe out the white race? I think some people have got together and decided that it would be better if there was no white race . In fact I think the same conversations go on in college bars quite frequently. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 8, 2023 18:44:09 GMT
We English don't hold with any of your fancy continental -osophies. Never have and never will.
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Post by happyhornet on Dec 8, 2023 18:44:11 GMT
So, you think a group of people got together in a room and decided to wipe out the white race? It only takes more than one and I have not said 'the white race' I have said 'the English'. If two people think it would be a good wheeze to denigrate English culture it is a conspiracy, not a theory. Why they would do that is more difficult to ascertain but showing it is happening is not a problem, showing it is not happening should be easy if it is only a 'theory'. As far as I can see the person on this thread who has been most dismissive of English culture is you. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 8, 2023 18:44:27 GMT
I think they're trying to sabotage and close down the thread. You would. It is legitimate to ask who is behind the conspiracy. If some form of conspiracy is at the centre of his argument, it would be remiss to simply skirt around that fact. Now you are asking for the criminals and in their absence you say the criminal act is not occurring. It does not work like that, the evidence suggests A is happening, the evidence suggests it is planned in some way. The planning may be in other directions as per the race laws which result in discrimination against white people, the majority of whom are English. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 8, 2023 18:44:35 GMT
No. Once again, you've completely misunderstood. Is a 13-year-old an adult? In some cultures, a 13-year-old is an adult. The defining criterion is the ability to reproduce. In other cultures, a 13-year-old is not an adult. The defining criterion is mental maturity (which is deemed to occur around the age of 18). Which group is correct? Neither is objectively correct. Adulthood is a concept, a social construct, and, as such, it can vary from place to place and time to time. Is someone born with a penis a woman? In some groups someone born with a penis is a woman. The defining criterion is the bio-chemical make-up of the brain. In other groups, someone born with a penis is not a woman. The defining criterion is birth genitalia. Which group is correct? Neither is objectively correct. 'Womanness' is a concept, a social construct, and, as such, it can vary from place to place and time to time. You are like a religious cult member who has studied their own religious dogma for years and keeps telling everyone that THEY don’t understand every time the dogma is has found to be nonsense . We can call up down and down up according to your premise . Dave with a dick isn’t a woman darling . He is a biological man and refutes your idiocy of a totally subjective language thus. I don't think you understand, based on your responses. For instance, nobody has suggested a totally subjective language. A totally subjective language is impossible. |
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Post by happyhornet on Dec 8, 2023 18:45:49 GMT
So, you think a group of people got together in a room and decided to wipe out the white race? I think some people have got together and decided that it would be better if there was no white race . In fact I think the same conversations go on in college bars quite frequently. Someone you trust is one of us. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 8, 2023 18:46:01 GMT
We English don't hold with any of your fancy continental -osophies. Never have and never will. Funny, they should feature on so many university courses, then. Your post wasn't entirely serious, though. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 8, 2023 18:46:16 GMT
It only takes more than one and I have not said 'the white race' I have said 'the English'. If two people think it would be a good wheeze to denigrate English culture it is a conspiracy, not a theory. Why they would do that is more difficult to ascertain but showing it is happening is not a problem, showing it is not happening should be easy if it is only a 'theory'. So, who has decided to wipe out 'the English'? Who formed that plan? As above. Who knows, who cares but the result is plain to see and if your house is burgled you do not need to catch the crooks to know it has happened. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 8, 2023 18:46:28 GMT
I think some people have got together and decided that it would be better if there was no white race . In fact I think the same conversations go on in college bars quite frequently. Someone you trust is one of us. Who? |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 8, 2023 18:47:12 GMT
So, who has decided to wipe out 'the English'? Who formed that plan? As above. Who knows, who cares but the result is plain to see and if your house is burgled you do not need to catch the crooks to know it has happened. So, there is a plan. But you don't know who made that plan or when it was made. That sounds very like a conspiracy theory. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2023 18:47:13 GMT
So, you think a group of people got together in a room and decided to wipe out the white race? It only takes more than one and I have not said 'the white race' I have said 'the English'. If two people think it would be a good wheeze to denigrate English culture it is a conspiracy, not a theory. Why they would do that is more difficult to ascertain but showing it is happening is not a problem, showing it is not happening should be easy if it is only a 'theory'. The cultural genocide, ethnocide or genocide is unavoidable. All they can do is deny reality. |
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Post by happyhornet on Dec 8, 2023 18:47:25 GMT
So, who has decided to wipe out 'the English'? Who formed that plan? As above. Who knows, who cares but the result is plain to see and if your house is burgled you do not need to catch the crooks to know it has happened. What result? Where is your evidence? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 8, 2023 18:47:48 GMT
We English don't hold with any of your fancy continental -osophies. Never have and never will. Funny, they should feature on so many university courses, then. Your post wasn't entirely serious, though. Lots of things appear on university courses that shouldn't. Hadn't you been aware? |
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