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Post by happyhornet on Dec 8, 2023 11:41:38 GMT
Realistically as a Scot looking in so to speak it is a damned disgrace the political, legal and social manipulation that is occurring to dispense with English as an ethnic group. Genocide is disgraceful, but it's basically the approved point of view on these forums. I could say more but I will only be threatened.
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 8, 2023 11:43:59 GMT
No. You've talked about yourself more than enough in this thread, not me. Again you're talking about me and indulging in personal attacks, the debating equivalent of running up the white flag. I haven't made a personal attack. I've made an observation about the way you seem to revolve the topic around you. I've also seen you 'like' disgraceful personal attacks on others posters, so I wouldn't play the moral high ground if I were you. |
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Post by happyhornet on Dec 8, 2023 11:47:11 GMT
Again you're talking about me and indulging in personal attacks, the debating equivalent of running up the white flag. I haven't made a personal attack. I've made an observation about the way you seem to revolve the topic around you. I've also see you 'like' disgraceful personal attacks on others posters, so I wouldn't play the moral high ground if I were you. Still talking about me. |
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 8, 2023 12:04:38 GMT
I haven't made a personal attack. I've made an observation about the way you seem to revolve the topic around you. I've also see you 'like' disgraceful personal attacks on others posters, so I wouldn't play the moral high ground if I were you. Still talking about me. Talking about your adoration for victimhood. You seem to love the attention. Well you've got it. |
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Post by happyhornet on Dec 8, 2023 12:42:49 GMT
Talking about your adoration for victimhood. You seem to love the attention. Well you've got it. Seems you love paying me attention. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 8, 2023 12:56:15 GMT
Of course they are not, I think I have said that about ten times so far which is why I have also said for the purposes of this thread English means English ethnicity. So I repeat ad nauseum that in this thread when I say English it means ethnic English, no different if I said Australian meant aborigine. Apart from that why dodge the question above although not directed specifically at you? This thread is about the English people. David Lammy and I are both English. If you don't like it you do still have the mind your own business option. OK who are the English people? |
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Post by dappy on Dec 8, 2023 13:12:23 GMT
English people are British people who associate themselves most with being English.
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Post by sandypine on Dec 8, 2023 13:15:20 GMT
English people are British people who associate themselves most with being English. What does 'being English' mean? If a Muslim associates himself most with being Muslim he is then not English? |
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Post by happyhornet on Dec 8, 2023 13:17:56 GMT
This thread is about the English people. David Lammy and I are both English. If you don't like it you do still have the mind your own business option. OK who are the English people? I'd say people who were born (or moved to England when they were very young) and raised in England who are culturally English. That's nationality, it in no way denies the existence of ethnic English people. |
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Post by happyhornet on Dec 8, 2023 13:19:21 GMT
English people are British people who associate themselves most with being English. What does 'being English' mean? If a Muslim associates himself most with being Muslim he is then not English? Nationality and religion are two separate things. I know English people of various and no religion, mostly the latter. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 8, 2023 13:20:02 GMT
OK who are the English people? I'd say people who were born (or moved to England when they were very young) and raised in England who are culturally English. That's nationality, it in no way denies the existence of ethnic English people. OK so who are the ethnic English? |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 8, 2023 13:23:23 GMT
What does 'being English' mean? If a Muslim associates himself most with being Muslim he is then not English? Nationality and religion are two separate things. I know English people of various and no religion, mostly the latter. I do not dispute that but I am trying to get a handle on exactly what you mean by 'associates most with being English'. |
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Post by dappy on Dec 8, 2023 13:28:10 GMT
Duplicate post
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Post by dappy on Dec 8, 2023 13:31:13 GMT
English people are British people who associate themselves most with being English. What does 'being English' mean? If a Muslim associates himself most with being Muslim he is then not English? Religion is irrelevant. Odd to bring that in you can be an English Muslim just as much as you can be a French Christian |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 8, 2023 13:32:53 GMT
Someone is English if they are British and associates themselves with being English This is not a trick question I am still trying to get a handle on what you mean by that. Is that purely a self identification thing? I am in England, I was born in England and I do English things therefore I am English. If that is what you mean fair enough, is it? |
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