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Post by buccaneer on Dec 4, 2023 9:39:36 GMT
The only mistake the UK made was not getting out sooner.
Your desperation in wanting the UK back in the EU even though you live in France is telling.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 4, 2023 10:01:28 GMT
The arrow of time and the voice of the people will eventually correct the mistake. Enjoy your brief time in your sunny uplands. The voice of the people has already been heard and the arrow of time might just work against the Europhile pipe dream . The polls are wishful thinking . Let’s see the terms and conditions of re joining the EU first.
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Post by oracle75 on Dec 4, 2023 10:13:31 GMT
Dont be silly. Polls are not wishful thinking. They are verified NUMBERS.
The wishful thinking is on your part.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 4, 2023 10:30:07 GMT
Dont be silly. Polls are not wishful thinking. They are verified NUMBERS. The wishful thinking is on your part. Commission a poll for men asking if they would like a romantic evening with Sofia Vergara and I’m confident that all but a few would say yes . Commission the same poll making it clear that they would have to pay for the whole evening ( including Ms Vergaras taxi home ) and state the costs . You will find the former has a significantly higher positive vote than the latter . Both polls would have verified NUMBERS .
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Post by steppenwolf on Dec 5, 2023 8:15:40 GMT
Dont be silly. Polls are not wishful thinking. They are verified NUMBERS.The wishful thinking is on your part. As I said polls are heavily dependent on the exact question you ask and the sample of people you pick - and its size. Since we don't know any of these FACTS your poll is worthless. But remember that the 2016 referendum returned a result of LEAVE despite the fact that the govt campaign predict economic disaster if we left. We were going to lose almost all of our trade with the EU countries, house prices would crash (not such a bad idea actually), Sterling would crash and household bills would go up by an average of £4,200 per annum. And there would a shortage of food and medicines etc. But none of this happened. In fact not much changed - either bad or good. So what would you campaign on this time Oracle? I've asked on several occasions that the Remainers supply just ONE advantage of being a member of the EU - and I've never had a single reply.
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Post by oracle75 on Dec 5, 2023 10:15:36 GMT
Well the UK has begged and paid for reinclusion into Horizon and Copernicus, kept all the trade deals made by the EU which it had previously agreed to. So your own Brexit appears to see some benefits in EU membership.
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 5, 2023 10:35:49 GMT
Well the UK has begged and paid for reinclusion into Horizon and Copernicus, kept all the trade deals made by the EU which it had previously agreed to. So your own Brexit appears to see some benefits in EU membership. That's cherry picking. That's not being part of a technocratic behemoth.
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Post by piglet on Dec 5, 2023 15:54:40 GMT
I havent read it all but no one has mentioned Van der Lying witholding millions of doses of covid vaccine, Johnson was going to send the troops in to get it out of Holland, it was ours, paid for.
Did Britons die over that?
IT EXPOSES THE TRUE HEART OF EUROPE.
ITS NAZI..........DICTATORIAL EVIL.
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Post by oracle75 on Dec 8, 2023 9:42:51 GMT
I havent read it all but no one has mentioned Van der Lying witholding millions of doses of covid vaccine, Johnson was going to send the troops in to get it out of Holland, it was ours, paid for. Did Britons die over that? IT EXPOSES THE TRUE HEART OF EUROPE. ITS NAZI..........DICTATORIAL EVIL. What is "nazi" about looking after your own population when the legal status of the vaccine was unclear?
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Post by piglet on Dec 8, 2023 12:30:01 GMT
Not on Britains sode then.
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Post by oracle75 on Dec 8, 2023 21:49:37 GMT
The only mistake the UK made was not getting out sooner. Your desperation in wanting the UK back in the EU even though you live in France is telling. The only desperation is by way of those who have no way out of your failing country.
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 8, 2023 22:53:07 GMT
The only mistake the UK made was not getting out sooner. Your desperation in wanting the UK back in the EU even though you live in France is telling. The only desperation is by way of those who have no way out of your failing country. So desperate you are talking gibberish now.
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Post by om15 on Dec 9, 2023 18:16:03 GMT
The simple reason why the British people voted to leave the European Union was because those that championed the Remain campaign were unable to put forward persuasive arguments that the future prospects of the UK population would be best served by being ruled by unelected Germans in Brussels.
The folly of Ms Merkel and the subsequence impotence of Van de Layan in dealing with the rampant invasion of Europe by those that don't live here, and also the failings in the various EU countries economies are quite a sound barrier to those who wish to rejoin.
School children who are subject to relentless propaganda may well think being "European" is desirable, but once they grow up, get jobs, travel and look to their future it is extremely improbable that they will choose to put their well being in the hands of our natural enemies.
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Post by oracle75 on Dec 10, 2023 9:02:34 GMT
The only mistake the UK made was not getting out sooner. Your desperation in wanting the UK back in the EU even though you live in France is telling. Telling you what? Are you now a mindreader as well as a Timelord?
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Post by oracle75 on Dec 10, 2023 9:14:08 GMT
Dont be silly. Polls are not wishful thinking. They are verified NUMBERS.The wishful thinking is on your part. As I said polls are heavily dependent on the exact question you ask and the sample of people you pick - and its size. Since we don't know any of these FACTS your poll is worthless. But remember that the 2016 referendum returned a result of LEAVE despite the fact that the govt campaign predict economic disaster if we left. We were going to lose almost all of our trade with the EU countries, house prices would crash (not such a bad idea actually), Sterling would crash and household bills would go up by an average of £4,200 per annum. And there would a shortage of food and medicines etc. But none of this happened. In fact not much changed - either bad or good. So what would you campaign on this time Oracle? I've asked on several occasions that the Remainers supply just ONE advantage of being a member of the EU - and I've never had a single reply. Two that you have spent trying to recover...Horizon and Copernicus. Regulation on clean water. Agreement on approved sources of foodstuffs. Lack of customs charges and delays. Ease of international investment. All those trade deals you still enjoy were negotiated by the EU. The few you have done independently are laughable. EU support in grants or loans allowing important development of infrastructure. Ease of travel between countries. Is that enough? The fact that you had to ask tells me you dont know what you voted against.
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