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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 5, 2023 0:04:54 GMT
I don't want Chinese spyware in my house. I don't want to fund a human rights abusing Communist dictatorship. Hit China with heavy sanctions. Justice for Tiananmen square. What would they ever want to spy on your for?
Don't over-rate yourself. You are not that important to them.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 5, 2023 5:45:23 GMT
I don't want Chinese spyware in my house. I don't want to fund a human rights abusing Communist dictatorship. Hit China with heavy sanctions. Justice for Tiananmen square. What would they ever want to spy on your for?
Don't over-rate yourself. You are not that important to them.
Our country is big enough to spy on. I prefer Cisco to Huawei crap. The idea of our military , or intelligence services being spied on by their phones or routers is terrifying. Sanctions against China. Best way. It is after all an enemy dictatorship. |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 5, 2023 6:25:27 GMT
What would they ever want to spy on your for?
Don't over-rate yourself. You are not that important to them.
I prefer Cisco to Huawei crap. The idea of our military , or intelligence services being spied on by their phones or routers is terrifying. Sanctions against China. Best way. It is after all an enemy dictatorship. Sellafield nuclear site hacked by groups linked to Russia and China
Russia and China 'hack UK's most dangerous power plant' in major attack on British energy
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Post by Vinny on Dec 5, 2023 6:31:21 GMT
Exactly. Ban all Huawei and other Chinese spy tech.
Foreign made rubbish filled with backdoor exploits for the enemy intelligence services? Ban it outright.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 5, 2023 8:24:23 GMT
I don't want Chinese spyware in my house. I don't want to fund a human rights abusing Communist dictatorship. Hit China with heavy sanctions. Justice for Tiananmen square. What would they ever want to spy on your for?
Don't over-rate yourself. You are not that important to them.
Because like all spying your habits tell them something, advertisers use it all the time, they certainly are not all Chinese or Russian either. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 5, 2023 20:01:44 GMT
This video is not from China but someone who is from Australia and visits China a lot. He is a fan of EVs, but not of any particular type. He runs a video blog on EV technology.
The invention here is from CATL, the battery maker. This is about business and how to make more money in EVs. It's one of those lateral thinking solutions and is indeed a lateral design as well. The problem is, using this chap's figures, it takes 500 000 EVs of a particular model to turn a profit, and most EV makers have never made a profit because their production is under this scale. This is the familiar problem of scale. Everyone likes a different car, but the more variety, the costlier to produce, unless you do what CATL does.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 19, 2023 3:38:04 GMT
This is bloody weird and I'm still uncertain how it works but what we have here is the quantum battery. It's a joint research paper from Beijing and Tokyo University. This is very odd in itself, but funnily enough I've been suggesting to the Chinese they should get on with the Japs and do some tech together.
So what we have is a new type of battery which is said to work on quantum effects and the bottom line is it can store more energy and will store it at a greater efficiency if it is charged slowly. Now how it works is spooky. There is this theory called indefinite causal order, which means that the law of cause and effect can be reversed. Say A causes B to happen, then if we reverse it, we will first of all get the effect B and then we will follow that by the thing that causes it. Now if that is not weird enough, it is further possible to have a superimposed double state where we have A cases B superimposed with B causing A so as I understand it, then when we make an observation of which it is, it can revolve into either way around, as per the normal principle of quantum supposition, but this time we superimpose causality. You think I'm joking right. well in 2017 this paper came out from Vienna which experientially proves this does indeed happen.
It's a very long paper, and i have not had time to read it, but just so you know.
Now using this effect these Chinese and Japs have used it to make a battery store more energy.
We only have the abstract here
or a press release, but neither explain the intricacies of why this effect improves battery performance.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 19, 2023 4:00:08 GMT
This is bloody weird and I'm still uncertain how it works but what we have here is the quantum battery. It's a joint research paper from Beijing and Tokyo University. This is very odd in itself, but funnily enough I've been suggesting to the Chinese they should get on with the Japs and do some tech together.
So what we have is a new type of battery which is said to work on quantum effects and the bottom line is it can store more energy and will store it at a greater efficiency if it is charged slowly. Now how it works is spooky. There is this theory called indefinite causal order, which means that the law of cause and effect can be reversed. Say A causes B to happen, then if we reverse it, we will first of all get the effect B and then we will follow that by the thing that causes it. Now if that is not weird enough, it is further possible to have a superimposed double state where we have A cases B superimposed with B causing A so as I understand it, then when we make an observation of which it is, it can revolve into either way around, as per the normal principle of quantum supposition, but this time we superimpose causality. You think I'm joking right. well in 2017 this paper came out from Vienna which experientially proves this does indeed happen.
It's a very long paper, and i have not had time to read it, but just so you know.
Now using this effect these Chinese and Japs have used it to make a battery store more energy.
We only have the abstract here
or a press release, but neither explain the intricacies of why this effect improves battery performance.
The annaul product of perpetual motion once again. Every year we have this bullshit about batteries than never ever come to fruition BVL and you fall for the BS. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 19, 2023 12:15:33 GMT
This is bloody weird and I'm still uncertain how it works but what we have here is the quantum battery. It's a joint research paper from Beijing and Tokyo University. This is very odd in itself, but funnily enough I've been suggesting to the Chinese they should get on with the Japs and do some tech together.
So what we have is a new type of battery which is said to work on quantum effects and the bottom line is it can store more energy and will store it at a greater efficiency if it is charged slowly. Now how it works is spooky. There is this theory called indefinite causal order, which means that the law of cause and effect can be reversed. Say A causes B to happen, then if we reverse it, we will first of all get the effect B and then we will follow that by the thing that causes it. Now if that is not weird enough, it is further possible to have a superimposed double state where we have A cases B superimposed with B causing A so as I understand it, then when we make an observation of which it is, it can revolve into either way around, as per the normal principle of quantum supposition, but this time we superimpose causality. You think I'm joking right. well in 2017 this paper came out from Vienna which experientially proves this does indeed happen.
It's a very long paper, and i have not had time to read it, but just so you know.
Now using this effect these Chinese and Japs have used it to make a battery store more energy.
We only have the abstract here
or a press release, but neither explain the intricacies of why this effect improves battery performance.
The annaul product of perpetual motion once again. Every year we have this bullshit about batteries than never ever come to fruition BVL and you fall for the BS. Look at the journal it was published in.
By the way, there is another demonstration of this effect in quantum field theory where it looks like a particle breaks the law of conservation of energy until you realise it "borrows energy from the future".
Yes I know it is bloody weird, but that's the world you live in, even if unaware of it. China tech will overtake you and your country due to this unwillingness to investigate stuff.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 19, 2023 12:36:53 GMT
The annaul product of perpetual motion once again. Every year we have this bullshit about batteries than never ever come to fruition BVL and you fall for the BS. I have Baron and I wouldn't give them the light of day. Every year some bullshit is stated that will change the world. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 19, 2023 13:05:29 GMT
Look at the journal it was published in. I have Baron and I wouldn't give them the light of day. Every year some bullshit is stated that will change the world. Well this is what they call fundamental research. China is getting well into this area, which is something our country once did before we went stupid. This causality phenomenon is something which is leading edge, only experimentally proved in 2017. It's interesting the first paper came from Vienna. They also published a paper on room temperature superconductivity in a 2D material a little while back and developed a new type of quantum gate that could be miniaturised onto a chip.
You see the basic idea here is quantum mechanics still has many things which are still yet to be discovered. It is a fertile area of research, but it is also heavy-duty maths. You will see the first paper starts getting mathematical about it. I would love to read and understand the paper on this battery though. I just can't say either way, as I have not read the paper and the rest of the science media is clown-like in its description. You really can't know one way or another unless you check the maths. That's how we do QM. If the maths says it will work, it will work, no matter how much like science fiction it appears to be. I mean you can actually mathematically prove the law of conservation of energy using symmetry.This particular phenomenon I believe comes from the uncertainty principle, which is also derivable using maths. I could explain it to you with a few blackboards of equations. The maths gets rather hairy.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 19, 2023 13:07:39 GMT
I have Baron and I wouldn't give them the light of day. Every year some bullshit is stated that will change the world. Well this is what they call fundamental research. China is getting well into this area, which is something our country once did before we went stupid. This causality phenomenon is something which is leading edge, only experimentally proved in 2017. It's interesting the first paper came from Vienna. They also published a paper on room temperature superconductivity in a 2D material a little while back and developed a new type of quantum gate that could be miniaturised onto a chip.
You see the basic idea here is quantum mechanics still has many things which are still yet to be discovered. It is a fertile area of research, but it is also heavy-duty maths. You will see the first paper starts getting mathematical about it. I would love to read and understand the paper on this battery though. I just can't say either way, as I have not read the paper and the rest of the science media is clown-like in its description. You really can't know one way or another unless you check the maths. That's how we do QM. If the maths says it will work, it will work, no matter how much like science fiction it appears to be. I mean you can actually mathematically prove the law of conservation of energy using symmetry.This particular phenomenon I believe comes from the uncertainty principle, which is also derivable using maths. I could explain it to you with a few blackboards of equations. The maths gets rather hairy.
The lo tech chinese should stick to what they do best and concentrate on producing their monky pox BVL |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 19, 2023 13:36:02 GMT
I think we are the country in greatest risk of going low tech. You are just acting like a bad loser. I mean this effect they have discovered is as they admit, still highly experimental. They are no where near a working battery. This is more at the level of the guy who discovered lithium could be used in batteries. Lithium was not used in batteries for a long time after, because the power output was tiny. Over the years different refinements gradually increased performance and performance is still increasing today with lithium batteries. This though is a completely new path. Whether it yeilds a good battery, no one knows. It's high risk-high return research.
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Post by besoeker3 on Dec 19, 2023 19:51:11 GMT
I think we are the country in greatest risk of going low tech. You are just acting like a bad loser. I mean this effect they have discovered is as they admit, still highly experimental. They are no where near a working battery. This is more at the level of the guy who discovered lithium could be used in batteries. Lithium was not used in batteries for a long time after, because the power output was tiny. Over the years different refinements gradually increased performance and performance is still increasing today with lithium batteries. This though is a completely new path. Whether it yeilds a good battery, no one knows. It's high risk-high return research. I have suggested to you several limes that you should visit China. Then see what it is really like. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 19, 2023 22:41:52 GMT
I think we are the country in greatest risk of going low tech. You are just acting like a bad loser. I mean this effect they have discovered is as they admit, still highly experimental. They are no where near a working battery. This is more at the level of the guy who discovered lithium could be used in batteries. Lithium was not used in batteries for a long time after, because the power output was tiny. Over the years different refinements gradually increased performance and performance is still increasing today with lithium batteries. This though is a completely new path. Whether it yeilds a good battery, no one knows. It's high risk-high return research. I have suggested to you several limes that you should visit China. Then see what it is really like. The other day I got invited to Shanghai by my brother's wife, who has family over there. In due course, when it is convenient for the three of us, we will endeavour to visit. As I have been saying to you for a while, I quite fancy going over there, and Shanghai is a top place to visit. |
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