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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 4, 2023 12:55:08 GMT
I am nether blind dumb or stupid the same CANNOT be said for the remainers. How many remainers have you asked if they have changed their stance? You haven't because if you had you would speak with an echo. Yet Sid supplied actual polling evidence that measured this, which you dismiss as bollocks without actually being able to refute it. Everyone knows Sid will produce graphs and charts that back up his nonsense, and each one of us could produce graphs and charts that would say the opposite, so his 'evidence' is basically wishful thinking. |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 4, 2023 12:56:15 GMT
Yet Sid supplied actual polling evidence that measured this, which you dismiss as bollocks without actually being able to refute it. Unless the people that vote in the polls know the details of the re join deal and the position of the UK at the time then the poll is about a concept . Nothing more . I wonder what bullshit they will come up with next time mate? They can no longer use the bollocks of the EUSSR being a trading block |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 4, 2023 12:57:13 GMT
I somehow doubt the last few years of politicians playing the game with remain will have helped, as when people voted leave they were pointing out also, the politics as usual just wouldn't do. Well all they are getting is politics as usual, so Brexit has appeared to make fuck all difference to that. Well by all means call me stupid Einstein, but it also seems they couldn't fill a village hall between the lot of them. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 4, 2023 12:59:54 GMT
Brexit is uncool. Any male student who makes it known that they support Brexit probably couldn’t get laid .
Lefties have made a good job in falsely linking Brexit to racism and xenophobia.
They used the playground whisper methods to imply it on social media etc.
You can see it when young people like the fat black one on “ I’m a celebrity’ told Farage she knew he was a racist because of ‘ the internet ‘.
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 4, 2023 13:04:56 GMT
Yeah just like the loons protesting in London to rejoin the EU, when asked what they missed about it, the best they come up with was some old dear who could no longer order her German tablecloths FFS.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2023 13:07:05 GMT
It is not a question of hopes but of demographic reality, and harsh though it may be we all die at some point when we get old. And quite clearly when it was mostly the old voting for Brexit, demography and the passage of time is not on your side. And the polling evidence is increasingly showing that. The longer you or I live - for I am no spring chicken myself - the more likely we are to live to see the reversal of Brexit. In your opinion. The EU is an even worse beast than it was when we left. Good luck convincing people they need to lose the pound and accept the Euro in order to rejoin, plus paying the Commission 14bn per annum for the dividend of no growth, and all the other little economic and political catchels the EU snares the UK with. My opinion is supported by the well established demographic reality that many more older people voted for Brexit than younger ones, combined with the fact that older people tend to die out at a much faster rate than younger ones. And my opinion is supported also by the polling evidence supplied by Sid. As for the obstacles you raise, certainly the shrinking minority of Brexiteers would try and win support on such bases and may persuade some. Though that itself relies on an assumption that the EU will insist upon us ditching the pound. It may do. It may not. But that will be debated at the time. As for giving money to the EU, and what we get back, and how much we benefit economically, that will all come up for debate as and when rejoining becomes a popular issue. Any Brexiteers will have to persuade that majority that it is not a good idea. As for economic growth, for the majority of our time in the EU, growth was higher than it was before we joined and higher than it is since we have left, the main exception being the self-inflicted death blow to growth inflicted by our own government via excessive austerity. But thats the Tories for you, whose reputation for sound economic management has clearly proven itself to be wholly unwarranted. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2023 13:09:37 GMT
Yet Sid supplied actual polling evidence that measured this, which you dismiss as bollocks without actually being able to refute it. Everyone knows Sid will produce graphs and charts that back up his nonsense, and each one of us could produce graphs and charts that would say the opposite, so his 'evidence' is basically wishful thinking. Well it is evidence that tends to suggest something unwelcome to you. Dismissing it because you dont like it without offering any evidence to show it is wrong is not very persuasive. If as you claim there is evidence that shows the opposite of his, then instead of simply saying it exists, actually show it to us. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2023 13:12:01 GMT
Yet Sid supplied actual polling evidence that measured this, which you dismiss as bollocks without actually being able to refute it. He supplied figures from pro EUSSR idiots who are still weeping over their defeat. Again, where is your evidence that refutes it? |
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 4, 2023 13:13:50 GMT
In your opinion. The EU is an even worse beast than it was when we left. Good luck convincing people they need to lose the pound and accept the Euro in order to rejoin, plus paying the Commission 14bn per annum for the dividend of no growth, and all the other little economic and political catchels the EU snares the UK with. My opinion is supported by the well established demographic reality that many more older people voted for Brexit than younger ones, combined with the fact that older people tend to die out at a much faster rate than younger ones. And my opinion is supported also by the polling evidence supplied by Sid. As for the obstacles you raise, certainly the shrinking minority of Brexiteers would try and win support on such bases and may persuade some. Though that itself relies on an assumption that the EU will insist upon us ditching the pound. It may do. It may not. But that will be debated at the time. As for giving money to the EU, and what we get back, and how much we benefit economically, that will all come up for debate as and when rejoining becomes a popular issue. Any Brexiteers will have to persuade that majority that it is not a good idea. As for economic growth, for the majority of our time in the EU, growth was higher than it was before we joined and higher than it is since we have left, the main exception being the self-inflicted death blow to growth inflicted by our own government via excessive austerity. But thats the Tories for you, whose reputation for sound economic management has clearly proven itself to be wholly unwarranted. Well, when that time arises give me a shout. Until then, keep harking back to the days of good old membership! |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 4, 2023 13:52:01 GMT
He supplied figures from pro EUSSR idiots who are still weeping over their defeat. Again, where is your evidence that refutes it? You have had the figures. And the kinnock clans numbers were reduced by 1 yesterday so that is another remain vote you have lost. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 4, 2023 14:44:26 GMT
Again, where is your evidence that refutes it? You have had the figures. And the kinnock clans numbers were reduced by 1 yesterday so that is another remain vote you have lost. You certainly are a sicko. Your lack of depth of understanding of just about anything, proved by your reliance on two of the most unreliable and biased news papers, which appears to be quite common amongst Brexit voters, is an insight into how the referendum resulted in Brexit. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2023 15:02:09 GMT
Do you know families where family-members have stopped talking to each other because of opposing views on Brexit? I've heard there are many such cases. If so, not very strong families if some politics causes people to fall out. There was one individual who divorced his wife when he found out she had voted for Brexit. Quite right, too!  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2023 15:03:46 GMT
There was one individual who divorced his wife when he found out she had voted for Brexit. well, there couldn’t have been much holding them together… He said "If you vote remain, I'll divorce you". So she voted Leave and then told him "I voted remain". She hated him. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 4, 2023 15:24:18 GMT
well, there couldn’t have been much holding them together… He said "If you vote remain, I'll divorce you". So she voted Leave and then told him "I voted remain". She hated him. The article is in the i But it wont allow it to be read unless you pay a subscription. I no longer read it. |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 4, 2023 15:38:33 GMT
He said "If you vote remain, I'll divorce you". So she voted Leave and then told him "I voted remain". She hated him. The article is in the i But it wont allow it to be read unless you pay a subscription. I no longer read it.No paywall here.
Or here
https://www.reddit.com/r/brexit/comments/15aztdb/i_left_my_wife_because_she_voted_for_brexit/
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