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Post by sheepy on Nov 29, 2023 8:27:32 GMT
I guess you can only see what you want to see then as usual. Well I want to see an answer to my question - I'll try again. How would you force the Palestinians to accept this peace deal of yours? By not sending billions of dollars to either side without stipulations, one with weapons and the other for rebuilding the same place those weapons has just destroyed yet again. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 10:19:15 GMT
You are now going to be ignored. Goodbye. What is the point of logging on to a 'discussion' forum, to ignore people? Sounds a bit counterintuitive, but hey, it's your choice. Well shut up then. Or I'll ignore you, too. 👅 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 10:25:15 GMT
You are now going to be ignored. Goodbye. What is the point of logging on to a 'discussion' forum, to ignore people? Sounds a bit counterintuitive, but hey, it's your choice. It depends on the individual or individual account. For example, it would be counterintuitive to waste time on the disruptive pathological liars if one didn't want to support or entertain their methods. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 10:26:41 GMT
Well I want to see an answer to my question - I'll try again. How would you force the Palestinians to accept this peace deal of yours? By not sending billions of dollars to either side without stipulations, one with weapons and the other for rebuilding the same place those weapons has just destroyed yet again. I'll look into my crystal ball and see that Israel are about to upset the great Satan and they will cut off all support. Then they will have to fend for themselves, which won't be easy, but they do have nukes, remember. So might Iran. Dangerous place isn't it? |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 29, 2023 11:15:24 GMT
By not sending billions of dollars to either side without stipulations, one with weapons and the other for rebuilding the same place those weapons has just destroyed yet again. I'll look into my crystal ball and see that Israel are about to upset the great Satan and they will cut off all support. Then they will have to fend for themselves, which won't be easy, but they do have nukes, remember. So might Iran. Dangerous place isn't it? Wolf, wolf there's a wolf loose. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 11:35:35 GMT
Acceptable borders through negotiation. We have had numerous negotiations and suggested borders over the decades - the Palestinians have rejected each and. every one of them. In one case they rejected Israel having any land at all. Is that your solution - the destruction of Israel? 1967. Equal rights would be a start. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 12:01:23 GMT
Not once, not ever, have the Israelis offered to hand back The West Bank, the Gaza Strip, or any other STOLEN land such as East Jerusalem or The Golan Heights in order to create an independent Palestine.
The Palestinians have never seen any offer by Israel of an independent, sovereign Palestine, and from where I am sitting it seems evident to me that Israels secret agenda is to make life in these occupied territories as difficult and as intolerable as possible, they are indulging in ethnic cleansing.
The Israeli settlers are stealing more and more land in The West Bank, they often begin by warning Arabs to move out, then comes the pot shots at Arab families, then comes the cutting of electricity cables and often they fill water wells with rocks and sand.
The same ethnic cleansing has been going on for years in East Jerusalem, where property laws are brought in favouring Jewish citizens and detremental to Arabs.
The Israelis have never been serious about a two state solution, they appear happy with the stream of emigration of Palestinians to start a new life somewhere else due to poverty, deprevation and from been treated as second class citizens.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 29, 2023 12:07:35 GMT
We have had numerous negotiations and suggested borders over the decades - the Palestinians have rejected each and. every one of them. In one case they rejected Israel having any land at all. Is that your solution - the destruction of Israel? . Equal rights would be a start. That is what the Palestinians were offered in 2000 and Arafat refused. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 29, 2023 13:02:22 GMT
Anti-Israel is not anti-Semitism no matter how hard people want you to believe it is. And yet the latter often hides behind the former. Are you happy that Israel can hide it's genocide behind it's nations faith? Are you happy that anti-Semites can hide behind endless criticism of Israel? |
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Post by see2 on Nov 29, 2023 15:12:37 GMT
Islamic armies, 'doing God's work' have invaded country after country ever since the 7th century. Even to the extent of taking young Christian males from their families, converting them to Islam and training them as soldiers, the Mamluk, to fight for the spread of Islam. The Muslim raiders from North Africa captured a claimed 1 million Europeans and sold them in the Ottoman Slave Markets. Ended by the French conquest of Algeria. When the Ottoman rulers freed the Jews from the chains of Dhimmitude in 1858, that made Jews in Palestine equal under the law to the Arabs, they unwittingly lit the blue touch paper of the Arab hatred of and conflict with the Jews. If you want to understand the conflicts between the Arabs and the Jews you need to start from that period of history. Yup, Muslims bad, we good.🙄 But the general propaganda picture is the other way around, that the Arabs are always the Victims. And when you ignore the information in my earlier post, you join in with this 'victims' lie. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 29, 2023 15:18:35 GMT
We have had numerous negotiations and suggested borders over the decades - the Palestinians have rejected each and. every one of them. In one case they rejected Israel having any land at all. Is that your solution - the destruction of Israel? 1967. Equal rights would be a start. When did the Israelis have equal rights in that Arab dominated part of the world? |
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Post by see2 on Nov 29, 2023 15:30:17 GMT
Not once, not ever, have the Israelis offered to hand back The West Bank, the Gaza Strip, or any other STOLEN land such as East Jerusalem or The Golan Heights in order to create an independent Palestine. The Palestinians have never seen any offer by Israel of an independent, sovereign Palestine, and from where I am sitting it seems evident to me that Israels secret agenda is to make life in these occupied territories as difficult and as intolerable as possible, they are indulging in ethnic cleansing. The Israeli settlers are stealing more and more land in The West Bank, they often begin by warning Arabs to move out, then comes the pot shots at Arab families, then comes the cutting of electricity cables and often they fill water wells with rocks and sand. The same ethnic cleansing has been going on for years in East Jerusalem, where property laws are brought in favouring Jewish citizens and detremental to Arabs. The Israelis have never been serious about a two state solution, they appear happy with the stream of emigration of Palestinians to start a new life somewhere else due to poverty, deprevation and from been treated as second class citizens. Israel accepted the Two State solution in 1948, the Arabs sent four armies from four Arab countries in order to eliminate Israel. Having lost the war to eliminate Israel the Arabs resorted to years of terrorist suicide bombers and such like plus two more wars in an attempt to annihilate Israel. It is very clear that the Palestinian Arabs are the architects of their own distress. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 8:00:30 GMT
1967. Equal rights would be a start. That is what the Palestinians were offered in 2000 and Arafat refused. They have never been offered equal rights. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 8:02:37 GMT
Anti-Israel is not anti-Semitism no matter how hard people want you to believe it is. And yet the latter often hides behind the former. Are you happy that Israel can hide it's genocide behind it's nations faith? Are you happy that anti-Semites can hide behind endless criticism of Israel? You obviously thing there is nothing to criticise Israel for - how about the 8 year old shot in the head while playing football in Jenin, is it anti-Semitic to criticise that? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 8:03:39 GMT
Yup, Muslims bad, we good.🙄 But the general propaganda picture is the other way around, that the Arabs are always the Victims. And when you ignore the information in my earlier post, you join in with this 'victims' lie. Palestinians were forced from their land to make way for Israel, that makes them victims. |
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