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Post by Pacifico on Nov 27, 2023 18:15:20 GMT
This is what a march for peace looks like. The Jews are not at war. Neither are you yet you still support hate marches.. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2023 18:17:44 GMT
This is what a march for peace looks like. The Jews are not at war. That's one of your sillier comments. 75% of Israelis are Jews. Are you suggesting it is the 25% others that are waging war against Hamas? Of course not. The Israeli government represent their people. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 27, 2023 18:51:49 GMT
You couldn't lie straight in bed, Wonky.
So I won't be taking your word for anything.
Then stay ignorant. I'm happy to stay ignorant of your fascistic fantasies. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2023 21:40:17 GMT
Tommy Robinson is a slimy two face hypocrite, and the only reason he was at the march opposing Anti-Semitism is because he sees it as taking one side in what people of his ilk believe is a binary issue.
The fact that Robinson would never even consider supporting a march opposing Islamophobia says it all, whereas all decent people would oppose ALL forms of racism, no matter who it is directed against, including Jews, including Muslims.
Its funny how things change, back in the 1970s and 1980s the far right in this country was very hostile to Jewish people, particularly the National Front, and also in the earlier days of the BNP.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 27, 2023 21:47:08 GMT
Tommy Robinson is a slimy two face hypocrite, and the only reason he was at the march opposing Anti-Semitism is because he sees it as taking one side in what people of his ilk believe is a binary issue. The fact that Robinson would never even consider supporting a march opposing Islamophobia says it all, whereas all decent people would oppose ALL forms of racism, no matter who it is directed against, including Jews, including Muslims. Its funny how things change, back in the 1970s and 1980s the far right in this country was very hostile to Jewish people, particularly the National Front, and also in the earlier days of the BNP. So people should be subject to legal action because of what you believe they really want. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 27, 2023 21:55:38 GMT
Tommy Robinson is a slimy two face hypocrite, and the only reason he was at the march opposing Anti-Semitism is because he sees it as taking one side in what people of his ilk believe is a binary issue. The fact that Robinson would never even consider supporting a march opposing Islamophobia says it all, whereas all decent people would oppose ALL forms of racism, no matter who it is directed against, including Jews, including Muslims. Its funny how things change, back in the 1970s and 1980s the far right in this country was very hostile to Jewish people, particularly the National Front, and also in the earlier days of the BNP. Were they ? I seem to remember that it was blacks and an Asians in the cross hairs of the NF . Yes Jews were mocked but I’ve never heard of Jews being told to go home to Israel . |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 28, 2023 6:31:55 GMT
Tommy Robinson is a slimy two face hypocrite, and the only reason he was at the march opposing Anti-Semitism is because he sees it as taking one side in what people of his ilk believe is a binary issue. The fact that Robinson would never even consider supporting a march opposing Islamophobia says it all, whereas all decent people would oppose ALL forms of racism, no matter who it is directed against, including Jews, including Muslims. Its funny how things change, back in the 1970s and 1980s the far right in this country was very hostile to Jewish people, particularly the National Front, and also in the earlier days of the BNP. Tommy Robinson (Yaxley-Lennon) is Jewish.
Also the National Front and the BNP are/were left wing, hence their anti-Semitism.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2023 8:36:33 GMT
Neither are you yet you still support hate marches.. By calling them hate marches you are accusing all who attended of being anti-Semites, do you not realise how stupid that makes you look? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2023 8:40:53 GMT
That's one of your sillier comments. 75% of Israelis are Jews. Are you suggesting it is the 25% others that are waging war against Hamas? Of course not. The Israeli government represent their people. That's the point anti-Semitism is a hatred of Jews, Israel are waging the war and are being called out for the slaughter of civilians not the Jewish faith. Are you happy that Israel can hide it's genocide behind it's nations faith? Anti-Israel is not anti-Semitism no matter how hard people want you to believe it is. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 28, 2023 9:20:15 GMT
Do I have to point out that the world did not wake up to the problems of Islamism until the 11th September 2001.
Prior to that time Muslims were just "different" we were told. Multicultural politics were encouraged.
There was a peace process taking place and hopes for a two state solution in the middle east, which had faltered with violence in the Autumn of 2000, and war in Chechnya, we weren't really that aware of the radicalisation of young fighting aged men in our country. Even in 2005 many wanted to say "oh but it's just a tiny minority".
It could be an even smaller majority if we address the issue of indoctrination.
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 28, 2023 9:43:30 GMT
Don't talk daft you are accusing everyone on the march of calling for a jihad and that is just not true, it was very, very few, the Palestinian march was to do with what Israel are doing in Gaza and it is understandable that some idiots lose their heads. As to anti-Semitism, that again unfortunately has become an overused smear where people are losing their livelihoods just for supporting peace and the cessation of a genocide. The anti-Semitism march was nothing to do with what is happening in Gaza but it was unfortunately a reflection of what is happening in the UK and across the western world. In all honesty we shouldn't be having tens of thousands marching for any conflict outside of the UK, if they feel so strongly they should all go back to Israel and Palestine and let their feelings be known there, why should the British public be exposed to hostility from both sides when it's feck all to do with us. Your history on this one is poor. Palestine was a British protectorate. We created the state of Israel. So we can't say nothing to do with us. However saying that, we should not do anything to inflame this, such as taking one side or another. It should be perfectly possible to support the march to stop the war in Gaza AND support the march against antisemitism. Both are wrong. We should have been pushing for a two state solution rather than just just leaving it. But unfortunately that was "feck all to do with us". |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 28, 2023 9:50:30 GMT
"We created the state of Israel."
No we didn't.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 28, 2023 10:01:10 GMT
In all honesty we shouldn't be having tens of thousands marching for any conflict outside of the UK, if they feel so strongly they should all go back to Israel and Palestine and let their feelings be known there, why should the British public be exposed to hostility from both sides when it's feck all to do with us. Your history on this one is poor. Palestine was a British protectorate. We created the state of Israel. So we can't say nothing to do with us. However saying that, we should not do anything to inflame this, such as taking one side or another. It should be perfectly possible to support the march to stop the war in Gaza AND support the march against antisemitism. Both are wrong. We should have been pushing for a two state solution rather than just just leaving it. But unfortunately that was "feck all to do with us". During the mandate the British tried numerous initiatives to get the two sides to co-exist and work together all to no avail. You cannot work with people who have in their midst large numbers of people who hate the other side. It is now nothing to do with us. We can be accused of being Pontious Pilate but sometimes some problems are intractable. The British created nothing as Dan said, we left as both the Jews and the Arabs wished us to do. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 28, 2023 10:21:30 GMT
In all honesty we shouldn't be having tens of thousands marching for any conflict outside of the UK, if they feel so strongly they should all go back to Israel and Palestine and let their feelings be known there, why should the British public be exposed to hostility from both sides when it's feck all to do with us. Your history on this one is poor. Palestine was a British protectorate. We created the state of Israel. So we can't say nothing to do with us. No - that would be the UN and we abstained.. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 28, 2023 10:40:36 GMT
In all honesty we shouldn't be having tens of thousands marching for any conflict outside of the UK, if they feel so strongly they should all go back to Israel and Palestine and let their feelings be known there, why should the British public be exposed to hostility from both sides when it's feck all to do with us. Your history on this one is poor. Palestine was a British protectorate. We created the state of Israel. So we can't say nothing to do with us. However saying that, we should not do anything to inflame this, such as taking one side or another. It should be perfectly possible to support the march to stop the war in Gaza AND support the march against antisemitism. Both are wrong. We should have been pushing for a two state solution rather than just just leaving it. But unfortunately that was "feck all to do with us". We, who is this we you speak of?
Like I said it's feck all to do with us, and I doubt the west poking its usual nose into it will be welcomed by either side.
The last time the west poked their noses in, was the Bush/Blair illegal war in Iraq looking for fictitious WMD, as I said we can voice our opinions on this conflict, raise funds, and other support and help, but filling our cities full of angry bitter protesters is not one of them.
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