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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 30, 2023 16:42:17 GMT
Apart from the Jimmy Savile is this badge real post, this one is a close second.
They 'do not want to be terrorists'?
Well here's a idea ........ don't be a Terrorist.
If they really wanted peace the path has been laid out for them, if they don't take it then they remain ........... Terrorists.
Yes, I had to look twice at that claim. Seems that some believe that people become terrorists against their will..  Yes, Hamas sympathisers. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 18:46:24 GMT
Nobody has said Hamas wants peace but I am sure the individuals that make up the terrorists do not wants to be terrorists.It is up to others to make the peace and not encourage terrorism on both sides. Apart from the Jimmy Savile is this badge real post, this one is a close second.
They 'do not want to be terrorists'?
Well here's a idea ........ don't be a Terrorist.
If they really wanted peace the path has been laid out for them, if they don't take it then they remain ........... Terrorists.
Are you serious? People do not want to be terrorists they become terrorists because they believe they have a cause to fight, whether right or wrong. "If they really wanted peace the path has been laid out for them", you have actually set out the problem with this statement - 'they' are being forced to accept what Israel and it's western supporters want. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 18:47:35 GMT
They are internal refugees, the vast majority of refugees in the world are internal. That still does not explain why refugees in 'Palestine' have a different and special category even when many of the the camps are in Lebanon, Syria and Jordan. If we had kept Ugandan Asians in camps pending a right of return would that have been acceptable? What different and special category? They are displaced people living in refugee camps. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 18:48:52 GMT
Nobody has said Hamas wants peace but I am sure the individuals that make up the terrorists do not wants to be terrorists... You really do talk shite, Wonky. Would you not support your country if it was occupied and fight against the invader? - no perhaps not. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 18:52:13 GMT
Apart from the Jimmy Savile is this badge real post, this one is a close second.
They 'do not want to be terrorists'?
Well here's a idea ........ don't be a Terrorist.
If they really wanted peace the path has been laid out for them, if they don't take it then they remain ........... Terrorists.
Yes, I had to look twice at that claim. Seems that some believe that people become terrorists against their will.. Who says they become terrorists against their will?  That is not what I said and you know it is not. People, in my opinion, can become 'terrorists' out of necessity. Do you thing all the members of the French resistance were forced to use terrorist tactics against the Nazis? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 18:55:33 GMT
Yes, I had to look twice at that claim. Seems that some believe that people become terrorists against their will.. Yes, Hamas sympathisers. There you go again, making up your lies and using the lowest type of insults in a stupid attempt to cover you ignorance. I would have thought accusing someone of terrorist sympathies would not be welcome on a serious debating board, how wrong am I. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 30, 2023 19:05:23 GMT
You really do talk shite, Wonky. Would you not support your country if it was occupied and fight against the invader? - no perhaps not. So you're a Hamas sympathiser, Wonky? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 19:07:01 GMT
Would you not support your country if it was occupied and fight against the invader? - no perhaps not. So you're a Hamas sympathiser, Wonky? It seems like half of the forum is. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 30, 2023 19:07:20 GMT
There you go again, making up your lies and using the lowest type of insults in a stupid attempt to cover you ignorance. I would have thought accusing someone of terrorist sympathies would not be welcome on a serious debating board, how wrong am I. Well how exactly would you describe what you're doing? ...I am sure the individuals that make up the terrorists do not wants to be terrorists...  |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 30, 2023 21:24:41 GMT
That still does not explain why refugees in 'Palestine' have a different and special category even when many of the the camps are in Lebanon, Syria and Jordan. If we had kept Ugandan Asians in camps pending a right of return would that have been acceptable? What different and special category? They are displaced people living in refugee camps. It is a game, they are living in refugee camps to keep the whole right of return alive. There were 700,000 in 1948/49 there are near enough 6 million now despite those people never having been displaced at all. It is a nonsense as Nasser stated quite clearly they refuse to allow resettlement to keep right of return alive. The Arab world is playing a political game with refugees. I ask again if we had kept Ugandan Asians in camps pending a right of return to Uganda would that have been the right thing to do whereby 70,000 people would become 150000 people after several years. There were 8 million ethnic Germans displaced from their homelands after WW2, Europe managed to find homes for them all and the problem is gone, although memories obviously get carried on. It is a political nonsense that is becoming more and more intractable and all to basically stop the Jews having any sort of upper hand. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 30, 2023 21:27:45 GMT
You really do talk shite, Wonky. Would you not support your country if it was occupied and fight against the invader? - no perhaps not. Many object to what is happening here and call it an invasion yet are called racists, bigots and fascists because we consider we have teh same rights as Palestinians to object to an invasion. The left is so hypocritical it takes your breath away. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 30, 2023 21:30:57 GMT
Yes, I had to look twice at that claim. Seems that some believe that people become terrorists against their will.. Who says they become terrorists against their will? That is not what I said and you know it is not. People, in my opinion, can become 'terrorists' out of necessity. Do you thing all the members of the French resistance were forced to use terrorist tactics against the Nazis? I am not sure if killing Frenchmen was a proper way to go about things, a similar case to the ANC in South Africa. Many people in these places just wanted to live their lives in peace and quiet. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 30, 2023 22:02:20 GMT
Yes, I had to look twice at that claim. Seems that some believe that people become terrorists against their will.. Who says they become terrorists against their will? That is not what I said and you know it is not. People, in my opinion, can become 'terrorists' out of necessity.Do you thing all the members of the French resistance were forced to use terrorist tactics against the Nazis? OK - explain what was the necessity to murder a pregnant woman at a Jerusalem bus stop this morning. Take your time.. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2023 7:35:23 GMT
There you go again, making up your lies and using the lowest type of insults in a stupid attempt to cover you ignorance. I would have thought accusing someone of terrorist sympathies would not be welcome on a serious debating board, how wrong am I. Well how exactly would you describe what you're doing? ...I am sure the individuals that make up the terrorists do not wants to be terrorists... Are you completely thick? "I am sure the individuals that make up the terrorists do not wants to be terrorists" in no way suggests that I am a terrorist sympathiser. Do you not understand that committing terrorist actions is usually perpetrated by people that feel they have no other choice. Do you not think they would rather be at home with families living a peaceful life? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2023 7:37:23 GMT
What different and special category? They are displaced people living in refugee camps. It is a game, they are living in refugee camps to keep the whole right of return alive. There were 700,000 in 1948/49 there are near enough 6 million now despite those people never having been displaced at all. It is a nonsense as Nasser stated quite clearly they refuse to allow resettlement to keep right of return alive. The Arab world is playing a political game with refugees. I ask again if we had kept Ugandan Asians in camps pending a right of return to Uganda would that have been the right thing to do whereby 70,000 people would become 150000 people after several years. There were 8 million ethnic Germans displaced from their homelands after WW2, Europe managed to find homes for them all and the problem is gone, although memories obviously get carried on. It is a political nonsense that is becoming more and more intractable and all to basically stop the Jews having any sort of upper hand. You are joking, of course??? Most of the refugees are either people that were displaced or descendants of people that were displaced. The camps are called 'refugee' camps by most of the countries of the world. |
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That is not what I said and you know it is not.
