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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2023 7:40:38 GMT
Would you not support your country if it was occupied and fight against the invader? - no perhaps not. Many object to what is happening here and call it an invasion yet are called racists, bigots and fascists because we consider we have teh same rights as Palestinians to object to an invasion. The left is so hypocritical it takes your breath away. 🤣 You are buying into Braverman's ridiculous notion that we are being invaded by men, women and children who are fleeing persecution. You do realise that people crossing in boats is a Tory plan to keep the loonies in this country 'entertained' and that they make up a very small percentage of total immigration, don't you? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 1, 2023 7:46:27 GMT
"I am sure the individuals that make up the terrorists do not wants to be terrorists" in no way suggests that I am a terrorist sympathiser. Yes, it does. Quite literally you are sympathising with an imaginary plight. And you would have to be monumentally thick not to recognise it. Do you not think they would rather be at home with families living a peaceful life? Nope. And neither would you if you'd ever met a radicalised individual. (Although I'm beginning to wonder if you are one). |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2023 7:47:23 GMT
Who says they become terrorists against their will?  That is not what I said and you know it is not. People, in my opinion, can become 'terrorists' out of necessity.Do you thing all the members of the French resistance were forced to use terrorist tactics against the Nazis? OK - explain what was the necessity to murder a pregnant woman at a Jerusalem bus stop this morning. Take your time.. They are terrorists, they carry out acts of terrorism, simple really. "Hamas took responsibility for the attack, which it said was carried out by two members of its military wing, the Qassam Brigades. The group celebrated the shooting as an act of heroism and said it was in response to the Israeli killing of women and children in the West Bank and Gaza." Do I think it was right is the question you are really asking me and the answer is no I do not, (see I even answer questions you have not actually asked.) Neither do I think the murder of an 8 year old playing football is right. Why are Hamas terrorists but those that murder children are not? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Dec 1, 2023 7:58:00 GMT
Palestinian "imaginary plight"?
I don't know if that was said out of wilful ignorance or just as a wind up, but I think that's the point at which I leave this forum.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 1, 2023 7:59:34 GMT
Palestinian "imaginary plight"? I don't know if that was said out of wilful ignorance or just as a wind up, but I think that's the point at which I leave this forum. Try reading the thread next time, and don't let the door hit you on the way out. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 1, 2023 8:07:18 GMT
Palestinian "imaginary plight"? I don't know if that was said out of wilful ignorance or just as a wind up, but I think that's the point at which I leave this forum. The keyboards are smoking today, its over which terrorist is my terrorist, doesn't change the fact they are all terrorists. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2023 8:16:32 GMT
Palestinian "imaginary plight"? I don't know if that was said out of wilful ignorance or just as a wind up, but I think that's the point at which I leave this forum. The keyboards are smoking today, its it over which terrorist is my terrorist, doesn't change the fact they are all terrorists. Incorrect. Hamas are terrorists, Israel are at war with terrorists who are hiding amongst people. Israel is at war against Hamas. The issue I have with that is that Hamas wanted this, and that Israel doesn't seem to have much of a choice if it wants to survive. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2023 8:17:11 GMT
"I am sure the individuals that make up the terrorists do not wants to be terrorists" in no way suggests that I am a terrorist sympathiser. Yes, it does. Quite literally you are sympathising with an imaginary plight. And you would have to be monumentally thick not to recognise it. Do you not think they would rather be at home with families living a peaceful life? Nope. And neither would you if you'd ever met a radicalised individual. (Although I'm beginning to wonder if you are one). How do you know they are radicalised? How do you know, rightly or wrongly, that they are not doing the only thing they think they can to fight against occupation? Intimating that you believe I could be radicalise is such a weak statement. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 1, 2023 8:18:00 GMT
OK - explain what was the necessity to murder a pregnant woman at a Jerusalem bus stop this morning. Take your time.. They are terrorists, they carry out acts of terrorism, simple really. "Hamas took responsibility for the attack, which it said was carried out by two members of its military wing, the Qassam Brigades. The group celebrated the shooting as an act of heroism and said it was in response to the Israeli killing of women and children in the West Bank and Gaza." Do I think it was right is the question you are really asking me and the answer is no I do not, (see I even answer questions you have not actually asked.) Neither do I think the murder of an 8 year old playing football is right. Why are Hamas terrorists but those that murder children are not? Because the the world isn't a fair place. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 1, 2023 8:19:54 GMT
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Post by wapentake on Dec 1, 2023 8:21:09 GMT
Palestinian "imaginary plight"? I don't know if that was said out of wilful ignorance or just as a wind up, but I think that's the point at which I leave this forum. The keyboards are smoking today, it’s it over which terrorist is my terrorist, doesn't change the fact they are all terrorists. Correct Sheeps the fact that some in Israel think exactly the same and are in power. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 1, 2023 8:25:12 GMT
How do you know they are radicalised? Self-evident. How do you know, rightly or wrongly, that they are not doing the only thing they think they can to fight against occupation? Another loaded question assuming a one-sided version of events. Intimating that you believe I could be radicalise is such a weak statement. Possibly. But looking more likely with every post that you make. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 1, 2023 8:27:57 GMT
The keyboards are smoking today, it’s it over which terrorist is my terrorist, doesn't change the fact they are all terrorists. Correct Sheeps the fact that some in Israel think exactly the same and are in power. I would suggest somebody gives them a mirror and their followers as well. They will be a long-time dead so now might be a good time to think on what they have created. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2023 8:30:40 GMT
How do you know they are radicalised? Self-evident. How do you know, rightly or wrongly, that they are not doing the only thing they think they can to fight against occupation? Another loaded question assuming a one-sided version of events. Intimating that you believe I could be radicalise is such a weak statement. Possibly. But looking more likely with every post that you make. Self evident is not an answer, it's a cop out. Do you believe terrorists are terrorists because they want to be terrorists? Only because you cannot, in fairness, answer the posts that I make. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 1, 2023 8:32:21 GMT
OK - explain what was the necessity to murder a pregnant woman at a Jerusalem bus stop this morning. Take your time..
"Hamas took responsibility for the attack, which it said was carried out by two members of its military wing, the Qassam Brigades. The group celebrated the shooting as an act of heroism and said it was in response to the Israeli killing of women and children in the West Bank and Gaza." Do I think it was right is the question you are really asking me and the answer is no I do not, (see I even answer questions you have not actually asked.) Neither do I think the murder of an 8 year old playing football is right. Why are Hamas terrorists but those that murder children are not? But that does not answer why it was necessary to become a terrorist and murder a pregnant woman waiting for a bus.. nobody (I hope) is denying that Hamas are terrorists (except the BBC of course). |
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That is not what I said and you know it is not.
