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Post by Bentley on Nov 10, 2022 14:47:59 GMT
And you know that vast vast majority of fat nurses do this , how? Most nurses are not fat, you are attempting to malign good honest, hard workers with some sort of shaming trope. Shame. Change of goalpost alert . No one said most were fat . You are making that up because you claimed that the vast , vast majority of fat nurse see a doctor (“ The vast, vast majority do.“ ) and can’t support it . |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 10, 2022 14:48:52 GMT
I think the 17% there demanding is a bit stupid but they should have a pay rise in line with inflation.
The 3% there offered is scandaless
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Post by Bentley on Nov 10, 2022 14:49:40 GMT
No. I think no one should ever be cruel to kittens too. Do you think it would be in everyone’s interest for everyone in both private and public sectors to immediately get a large pay rise ? You seem to think they should . I think I have made myself clear but for you I will say Y E S.
I had to make sure that you actually claimed that everyone should have a large pay rise . I thought that no one could be that daft . How wrong I was . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 10, 2022 14:50:08 GMT
Many of these nurses also receive 'working tax credits' & 'family working tax credits', this boosts their incomes considerably, so you're not seeing the bigger picture. MY GOD, "Many of these nurses also receive 'working tax credits' & 'family working tax credits" did you really say that and not understand that that means they are not getting enough just by working. No you fool, the tax credits boost incomes to what the 'law says' is the minimum income floor.
The law says ...
minimum income floor 2022?
Examples based on 35 hours for 2022/23: Age 23+ is 35 x £9.50 = £332.50 a week (£1,440.83 a month) Age 21-22 is 35 x £9.18 = £321.30 a week (£1392.30 a month) Age 18-20 is 35 x £6.836 = £239.05 a week (£1,035.88 a month)
Tax credits make sure you don't fall below this ^^ level, but people want inflation busting pay rises, and why should one set of people get more than others, every worker is a 'valued' worker.
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Post by patman post on Nov 10, 2022 15:02:03 GMT
I replied to: My daughter told me that bank work for scrub nurses was very well paid but scrub nurses lose some nursing skill over time so she wanted to leave theatres after a while and train to be a district nurse . However a position of district ( community) nurse near her home turned up soon after she qualified and she went for it . Point is that NHS nurses are reasonable well paid , have the option of free training ,promotion, diversity ,bank work and flexible working . Check… So how does that equate to HCA s getting crap wages . YOU ..”Free training (for recognisable qualifications after up to four years) on a crap wage doesn’t even compare to the training offered to military recruits, where it’s highlighted as a reason to sign up…” Check mate . OK — show where I’ve replied to any of your posts before 1:24pm yesterday in which HCA has been written and I’ll concede I’ve missed it… |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 15:16:05 GMT
MY GOD, "Many of these nurses also receive 'working tax credits' & 'family working tax credits" did you really say that and not understand that that means they are not getting enough just by working. No you fool, the tax credits boost incomes to what the 'law says' is the minimum income floor.
The law says ...
minimum income floor 2022?
Examples based on 35 hours for 2022/23: Age 23+ is 35 x £9.50 = £332.50 a week (£1,440.83 a month) Age 21-22 is 35 x £9.18 = £321.30 a week (£1392.30 a month) Age 18-20 is 35 x £6.836 = £239.05 a week (£1,035.88 a month)
Tax credits make sure you don't fall below this ^^ level, but people want inflation busting pay rises, and why should one set of people get more than others, every worker is a 'valued' worker.
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 10, 2022 15:18:08 GMT
No you fool, the tax credits boost incomes to what the 'law says' is the minimum income floor.
The law says ...
minimum income floor 2022?
Examples based on 35 hours for 2022/23: Age 23+ is 35 x £9.50 = £332.50 a week (£1,440.83 a month) Age 21-22 is 35 x £9.18 = £321.30 a week (£1392.30 a month) Age 18-20 is 35 x £6.836 = £239.05 a week (£1,035.88 a month)
Tax credits make sure you don't fall below this ^^ level, but people want inflation busting pay rises, and why should one set of people get more than others, every worker is a 'valued' worker.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 15:25:13 GMT
Most nurses are not fat, you are attempting to malign good honest, hard workers with some sort of shaming trope. Shame. Change of goalpost alert . No one said most were fat . You are making that up because you claimed that the vast , vast majority of fat nurse see a doctor (“ The vast, vast majority do.“ ) and can’t support it . The "vast, vast majority of fat nurses see a doctor" means just that "the vast, vast majority of fat nurse see a doctor". Neither did I in fact I clearly stated "fat nurses", your attempt to change it goes nowhere. Why do you not believe that nurses see a doctor every day? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 15:26:24 GMT
I think I have made myself clear but for you I will say Y E S.
I had to make sure that you actually claimed that everyone should have a large pay rise . I thought that no one could be that daft . How wrong I was . Do you think decent wages are impossible or do you just have an idea that people should be poor? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 10, 2022 15:36:55 GMT
I had to make sure that you actually claimed that everyone should have a large pay rise . I thought that no one could be that daft . How wrong I was . Do you think decent wages are impossible or do you just have an idea that people should be poor? The NHS is tax payer funded, they are public servants paid for by us the tax payers, any pay rise should be approved by the people who fund them me, you, and all tax payers, they just can't help themselves to public money, it's not FREE, we all work hard to keep them in jobs.
Private employees can't afford to pay their staff inflation busting pay rises because they have to find the money to fund it, hence the reason they go BUST or out of business or have to reduce their staff, it's unfair the both civil servants and public servants who's incomes are tax payer funded think they can help themselves to OUR money because it's FREE.
It's not fuckin FREE people are working hard to to pay the wages of civil servants and public servants, not to mention the management who have lucrative Gold-plated pension pots.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 10, 2022 15:39:47 GMT
So how does that equate to HCA s getting crap wages . YOU ..”Free training (for recognisable qualifications after up to four years) on a crap wage doesn’t even compare to the training offered to military recruits, where it’s highlighted as a reason to sign up…” Check mate . OK — show where I’ve replied to any of your posts before 1:24pm yesterday in which HCA has been written and I’ll concede I’ve missed it… I don’t give a shift if you concede or not . I never said HCA wages were crap . You posted “..”Free training (for recognisable qualifications after up to four years) on a CRAP wage doesn’t even compare to the training offered to military recruits, where it’s highlighted as a reason to sign up…”. in response to my post regarding HCA training . So unless you didn’t understand what you posted , it must replied to my post . Hence you said HCAs wages were crap . Not me. |
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Post by jaydee on Nov 10, 2022 15:40:13 GMT
MY GOD, "Many of these nurses also receive 'working tax credits' & 'family working tax credits" did you really say that and not understand that that means they are not getting enough just by working. No you fool, the tax credits boost incomes to what the 'law says' is the minimum income floor.
The law says ...
minimum income floor 2022?
Examples based on 35 hours for 2022/23: Age 23+ is 35 x £9.50 = £332.50 a week (£1,440.83 a month) Age 21-22 is 35 x £9.18 = £321.30 a week (£1392.30 a month) Age 18-20 is 35 x £6.836 = £239.05 a week (£1,035.88 a month)
Tax credits make sure you don't fall below this ^^ level, but people want inflation busting pay rises, and why should one set of people get more than others, every worker is a 'valued' worker.
Every body is a fool but the £84,000 a year man. In real terms, adjusted for inflation, average NHS pay remains below where it was in 2010. For most groups, this drop happened largely during the period of public sector austerity up to about 2017, with some recovery after that. Nurses, for example, reached a low point of a 9% real-terms drop in pay from 2010 to 2017: their average pay now is around 5% less than a decade ago. It is now around 11%. So perhaps the £84,000 a year man, who calls everybody else a fool, can explain with tax credits the take home pay is now in region of 11%. Now inflation and cost of living crises is down to the wankers in Westminster who you are a apologist for. They got the country into this mess . And are clearly totally incapable of sorting it out. By the way do you actually work as you spend all day on here waffling and calling all asunder idiots, clowns etc. Could I suggest you Buy a mirror. . As you defend a state of affairs of nurses having to use food banks. You make that clear with you economics migrant drivel. It is quite simple to sort out. Emergency services like the police should not be allowed to strikes. That would include Fireman nurses Ambulance drivers etc. . I am not taking about plumbers in the hospital and the like. Or Albanian Criminals working as cleaners. Then introduce some sort of system adopted by Lord Edmund Davies, in the 70's. It is the same shit different century. Or has it been installed in your head the nurses are your new enemy this week to hate. I realise you have a difficulty in understanding economics. In the link for Police add nurses and other emergency services. The starting rate of pay for all those services is a separate issue. That would require agreement. But the pay rise under Davies would be idem. Lower or higher depending on pay grade agreed.. The recommendation by Davies was between 30% - 45% Brokered by James Callaghan and accepted by Margaret Thatcher when she took power. I am sure you do not have a clue what I am talking about. www.polfed.org/news/latest-news/2022/why-do-police-need-lord-edmund-davies-now-more-than-before/discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3033 |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 10, 2022 15:42:54 GMT
Change of goalpost alert . No one said most were fat . You are making that up because you claimed that the vast , vast majority of fat nurse see a doctor (“ The vast, vast majority do.“ ) and can’t support it . The "vast, vast majority of fat nurses see a doctor" means just that "the vast, vast majority of fat nurse see a doctor". Neither did I in fact I clearly stated "fat nurses", your attempt to change it goes nowhere. Why do you not believe that nurses see a doctor every day? Who said I did or didn’t . The post was a humorous one. “ They should see a doctor “ ..they work in a hospital… Geddit ? I was referring to fat nurses . You said “ The vast , vast majority do” in response to my post . Why dint you read the post you reply to? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 10, 2022 15:47:03 GMT
Not to mention how much that fuckin poison woman in Scotland rips off the English tax payers, short ares little runt.
Oliver Twisted Sturgeon, she's always got her cap out begging for money...
First Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon -
SALARY
Annual: £163,229.00
Monthly: £13,602.42
Weekly: £3,139.02
Daily: £627.8
That's what the English tax payers pay this twerp ^^
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Post by Bentley on Nov 10, 2022 15:47:25 GMT
I had to make sure that you actually claimed that everyone should have a large pay rise . I thought that no one could be that daft . How wrong I was . Do you think decent wages are impossible or do you just have an idea that people should be poor? Wow! You think that me laughing at you for claiming everyone should have a large wage rise means I think people should be poor and or decent wages are impossible . I can’t decide what is worse . The idiotic assumption that giving everyone a large rise is sustainable, the virtue signalling or the constant jumping of conclusions that come with it . |
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