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Post by Bentley on Nov 10, 2022 14:22:26 GMT
Well if you insist ok then, you set the date? Ok . So according to you we should give the nurses a large pay rise and give everyone in the public sector a large pay rise for parity . After that everyone in the private sector should have a large pay rise to obtain parity with the public sector. 🤔 |
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Post by Toreador on Nov 10, 2022 14:22:45 GMT
Maybe they should see a doctor . The vast, vast majority do. Only when they're trundling down the ward. Nurse obesity is a scandal. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 10, 2022 14:26:37 GMT
There are many causes of weight problem and women potentially suffer the most. Pregnancy is one cause of weight gain in women. Water retention is another as are eating disorders. Being overweight can be a debilitating medic |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 10, 2022 14:35:30 GMT
There were no overweight people in Belsen. Fairsiciety think that Is a rather sick comment can you delete it pleasey You need to delete yours now. |
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Post by patman post on Nov 10, 2022 14:35:42 GMT
I may be missing something here, but the first mention of HCA seems to be in one of your posts Yes you are missing something. Your own post. YOU “ Free training (for recognisable qualifications after up to four years) on a crap wage doesn’t even compare to the training offered to military recruits, where it’s highlighted as a reason to sign up…“ This was after I said that HCAs can get free training . So you obviously was claiming that HCAs are on crap wages because I never said it . I replied to: My daughter told me that bank work for scrub nurses was very well paid but scrub nurses lose some nursing skill over time so she wanted to leave theatres after a while and train to be a district nurse . However a position of district ( community) nurse near her home turned up soon after she qualified and she went for it . Point is that NHS nurses are reasonable well paid , have the option of free training ,promotion, diversity ,bank work and flexible working . Check… |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 14:37:22 GMT
Well if you insist ok then, you set the date? Ok . So according to you we should give the nurses a large pay rise and give everyone in the public sector a large pay rise for parity . After that everyone in the private sector should have a large pay rise to obtain parity with the public sector. 🤔 You are really coming on, well done. Do you object to people getting a fair day's pay for a fair day's work? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 14:38:16 GMT
The vast, vast majority do. And you know that vast vast majority of fat nurses do this , how? Err, think about it.  |
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Post by dodgydave on Nov 10, 2022 14:40:03 GMT
dodgydave >> Really... go and ask a person at random if you think a nurse earning an average of ÂŁ34k should get a 15% pay rise (ÂŁ5100)... at a cost to the taxpayer of ÂŁ3.5b. My missus is a nurse, we would love it if she got a 15% pay rise... I'm struggling to believe many people would support her wage going up by ÂŁ8,000 during a financial crisis though. ----------------------------------------- Seems to me that you fail to grasp the gravity of the appaling situation within the NHS and the years of pay freezes and below inflation pay rises, do you not think that the evidence speaks for itself ? - the chronic staff shortages. My own wife is a doctor, a consultant, highly qualified, on the board of the local NHS Trust, a committee member of one of the Royal Colleges. My wife has got used to working in departments that are understaffed, its now a permanent feature of work, but she s going to do what so many others have done, and plan to do - GET OUT as soon as possible. You wont fix a growing staff shortage situation by telling people they are lucky to be earning so much, even though their pay has been going down and down. The government have a choice, say goodbye to the NHS or invest in it properly Is it really the pay or is the end of the bursaries, and forcing them to get a degree that is causing the shortages? Shortages breed more shortages, as the situation just spirals out of control. Give them inflation and then concentrate on getting more people trained, bursaries, and if you must have a degree make it free. The problem is if you give them the 17% they are now demanding... the police, fire brigade, civil services will all demand 17%. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 10, 2022 14:40:15 GMT
Ok . So according to you we should give the nurses a large pay rise and give everyone in the public sector a large pay rise for parity . After that everyone in the private sector should have a large pay rise to obtain parity with the public sector. 🤔 You are really coming on, well done. Do you object to people getting a fair day's pay for a fair day's work? No. I think no one should ever be cruel to kittens too. Do you think it would be in everyone’s interest for everyone in both private and public sectors to immediately get a large pay rise ? You seem to think they should . |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 10, 2022 14:40:45 GMT
And you know that vast vast majority of fat nurses do this , how? Err, think about it. I’d rather you think about it and then maybe give an answer. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 14:41:45 GMT
The vast, vast majority do. And you know that vast vast majority of fat nurses do this , how? Most nurses are not fat, you are attempting to malign good honest, hard workers with some sort of shaming trope. Shame. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 10, 2022 14:41:57 GMT
Ok . So according to you we should give the nurses a large pay rise and give everyone in the public sector a large pay rise for parity . After that everyone in the private sector should have a large pay rise to obtain parity with the public sector. 🤔 You are really coming on, well done. Do you object to people getting a fair day's pay for a fair day's work? Many of these nurses also receive 'working tax credits' & 'family working tax credits', this boosts their incomes considerably, so you're not seeing the bigger picture. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 10, 2022 14:43:17 GMT
Yes you are missing something. Your own post. YOU “ Free training (for recognisable qualifications after up to four years) on a crap wage doesn’t even compare to the training offered to military recruits, where it’s highlighted as a reason to sign up…“ This was after I said that HCAs can get free training . So you obviously was claiming that HCAs are on crap wages because I never said it . I replied to: My daughter told me that bank work for scrub nurses was very well paid but scrub nurses lose some nursing skill over time so she wanted to leave theatres after a while and train to be a district nurse . However a position of district ( community) nurse near her home turned up soon after she qualified and she went for it . Point is that NHS nurses are reasonable well paid , have the option of free training ,promotion, diversity ,bank work and flexible working . Check… So how does that equate to HCA s getting crap wages . YOU ..”Free training (for recognisable qualifications after up to four years) on a crap wage doesn’t even compare to the training offered to military recruits, where it’s highlighted as a reason to sign up…” Check mate . |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 14:43:30 GMT
You are really coming on, well done. Do you object to people getting a fair day's pay for a fair day's work? No. I think no one should ever be cruel to kittens too. Do you think it would be in everyone’s interest for everyone in both private and public sectors to immediately get a large pay rise ? You seem to think they should . I think I have made myself clear but for you I will say Y E S.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 14:45:19 GMT
You are really coming on, well done. Do you object to people getting a fair day's pay for a fair day's work? Many of these nurses also receive 'working tax credits' & 'family working tax credits', this boosts their incomes considerably, so you're not seeing the bigger picture. MY GOD, "Many of these nurses also receive 'working tax credits' & 'family working tax credits" did you really say that and not understand that that means they are not getting enough just by working. |
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