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Post by Vinny on Nov 27, 2023 16:05:59 GMT
Bilateral free trade agreements work better as they are tailored to the needs of specific partners.
The EU is one size fits none and the drawbacks outweigh the benefits.
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Post by oracle75 on Nov 27, 2023 18:56:18 GMT
Bilateral free trade agreements work better as they are tailored to the needs of specific partners. The EU is one size fits none and the drawbacks outweigh the benefits. Which is why, of course, the UK has kept most of the EU deals and new "tailored" ones are at best neutral, at worst costing the UK money. The last one was I believe, w9th Florida. "The US is the UK’s largest trading partner and the biggest investor in the UK. Every day more than one million people get up and go to work for British companies in America, and almost 1.5 million people do the same for American companies in the UK." www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-florida-sign-pact-to-boost-trade#:~:text=The%20UK%20and%20Florida%20sign,to%20boost%20trade%20and%20investment.&text=GDP%20of%20Germany-,Business%20and%20Trade%20Secretary%20Kemi%20Badenoch%20and%20Florida%20Governor%20Ron,between%20the%20UK%20and%20Florida. The UK can already invest anywhere in the US. And VV. What is all the fuss about? |
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 28, 2023 7:54:25 GMT
You seem to have forgotten that the public voted for Brexit. And the govt ministers (and PMs) who were booted out were trying to implement Brexit against fierce opposition. So Priti Patel was booted out for "bullying" - as was Raab. In both cases it was a blob conspiracy that got rid of them. Zahawi was also booted. Boris was ousted by partly a Civil Service attack - Lord Macdonald claimed that Boris was told that Pincher was a shirtlifter and went on the BBC "Today" to call Boris a liar. It was also by a plot from within the Tory party to oust Boris. Dominic Cummings himself said - even on the BBC - that Boris was just the PM to get Brexit done, but that he would be replaced by Sunak. IDS has said that he was ousted by Cummings and Gove. Truss was ousted by a concerted attack from the BoE, the Treasury (because she sacked Tom Scholar), Sunak and Gove/Cummings, and various remainers in the Tory party supported by the EU. This is all pretty well established. It's a long history of people who favour Brexit being removed by one method or another. With IDS it was "Betsygate" and with Boris it was "Partygate" - neither of which had a shred of truth in them. The only thing left to explain is why Sunak should be pursuing a policy that will lose him the election. The answer is that Sunak is just using his role as British PM as a stepping stone to being an "International stateman" probably based in the USA. H ehas no interest in the UK - which is why he is granting vast numbers of visas to Indians. He needs the likes of Modi on side. This is all pretty well doumented stuff srb. The "alternate reality" is yours - that the EU doesn't plot to undermine the UK and that politicians just do their job. Anyone invoking "the blob"" loses credibility with me. Our disagreements are in any case becoming increasingly pointless. Have you changed your mind one single iota in response to me? I very much doubt it, and know I havent in response to you. And all we are really doing is saying the same things to each other in different combinations of words. So I am more inclined at this point to to just agree to differ. As for elections, we are likely to get another one before very long, giving you and any other member of the public the power to express your disapproval with or for anyone by voting against them. There will likely be an array of candidates in your constituency. Labour, Lib Dem and Tory almost certainly, but probably also Green and Reform and maybe more. And you can research the candidates to see where they stand on things. And if enough of your local constituency agree with you, your preferred candidate will win. If not, you will just have been outvoted by a larger number of people voting for some other candidate whom they prefer over your choice. Either way, it will be the voice of democracy speaking. I think your views are formed from a willful ignorance of the facts, srb. And if you don't know the facts you can't have a view on "reality" - "alternate" or not. BTW, the blob is the civil service. They're quite important when analysing what's going on in politics nowadays. Since 2016 what's going on politically is best understood as a fight between the Tories and the blob (to get the blob to actually do what they're told). And it looks like the blob has won - in that anyone who crosses them gets ousted via various means (dirty tricks, accusations of bullying etc). And the blob now can't even be bothered to turn up to work. No wonder asylum claims are running a waiting list of about 175,000 and rising. Mind you they seem to be pretty quick at issuing visas for foreigners and their extended families to come here.  I think I need to update my list of people who are trying to destroy this country. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 29, 2023 9:19:31 GMT
Bilateral free trade agreements work better as they are tailored to the needs of specific partners. The EU is one size fits none and the drawbacks outweigh the benefits. They are conditional on the needs of specific partners. |
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