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Post by zanygame on Nov 15, 2023 18:09:14 GMT
James Cleverly supported and campaigned for it, he is now Home Secretary. Braverman did something stupid the other week, she suggested taking tents from the homeless. And at the weekend, she offended the BBC and the Met. She was right about the Met, and the BBC, but became a liability in the media. As for Sunak he campaigned for leave and proved a good Chancellor of the Exchequer. But he was part of a government that made rules for others it didn't follow itself. I thought she referred to rough sleepers as opposed to homeless and said rough sleeping was a choice for some. Somewhere that was reported as homeless. They are not the same. Oh please do tell me the difference between a rough sleeper and a homeless person. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 15, 2023 18:11:12 GMT
Indeed. You can substantially see what the future will be by looking dispassionately at current, settled trends. Nobody who wants to increase liberty or the accountability of authority and decision making is able to hold on to any power, anywhere for long - they sometimes end up with bank account closures. Note the police's refusal to do their job and their demands for spurious extra powers, also that society has been familiarised with the notion that their elected leaders are mere subjects to an external, unaccountable discretion. Only the most radical reform will stop a disaster now (imho) Why do you Righties always want the right to pick on minorities while screaming your rights are being removed. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 15, 2023 18:14:55 GMT
I thought she referred to rough sleepers as opposed to homeless and said rough sleeping was a choice for some. Somewhere that was reported as homeless. They are not the same. Oh please do tell me the difference between a rough sleeper and a homeless person. surely rough sleepers are those that sleep on the streets - you can be homeless and sleep in a B&B, a hostel or even on a friends couch |
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Post by bancroft on Nov 15, 2023 18:17:14 GMT
When Truss was deemed to be a disaster following the recently run part leader contest Sunak was second, I see that as a fair timely replacement.
Lets recall Truss won the vote as she promised tax cuts to the paying Tory members the vast majority of which were businessmen.
In recent times post COV-ID our debt to GDP ratio was over 100%
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 18:30:15 GMT
Indeed. You can substantially see what the future will be by looking dispassionately at current, settled trends. Nobody who wants to increase liberty or the accountability of authority and decision making is able to hold on to any power, anywhere for long - they sometimes end up with bank account closures. Note the police's refusal to do their job and their demands for spurious extra powers, also that society has been familiarised with the notion that their elected leaders are mere subjects to an external, unaccountable discretion. Only the most radical reform will stop a disaster now (imho) Why do you Righties always want the right to pick on minorities while screaming your rights are being removed. Why are the police threatening to arrest people who call men, men, when it's actually a biological reality? Appeasing the mentally unhinged and persecuting normal people is worth standing up to, especially when Starmer wants to send people to prison for calling a man, a man.
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Post by ratcliff on Nov 15, 2023 18:44:52 GMT
I thought she referred to rough sleepers as opposed to homeless and said rough sleeping was a choice for some. Somewhere that was reported as homeless. They are not the same. Oh please do tell me the difference between a rough sleeper and a homeless person. Rough sleeper sleeps in the street/under bridges/in doorways homeless :https://england.shelter.org.uk/professional_resources/legal/homelessness_applications/homelessness_and_threatened_homelessness/legal_definition_of_homelessness_and_threatened_homelessness#:~:text=Who%20is%20legally%20homeless%3F,to%20secure%20entry%20to%20accommodation The definition of homelessness and threatened homelessness for someone making a homeless application to a local authority in England. Who is threatened with homelessness? Who is legally homeless? No accommodation available to occupy Risk of violence or domestic abuse Accommodation that is not reasonable to continue to occupy Unable to secure entry to accommodation No legal right to occupy accommodation Mobile homes, caravans and houseboats Applications by people from abroad |
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Post by Orac on Nov 15, 2023 19:14:45 GMT
Indeed. You can substantially see what the future will be by looking dispassionately at current, settled trends. Nobody who wants to increase liberty or the accountability of authority and decision making is able to hold on to any power, anywhere for long - they sometimes end up with bank account closures. Note the police's refusal to do their job and their demands for spurious extra powers, also that society has been familiarised with the notion that their elected leaders are mere subjects to an external, unaccountable discretion. Only the most radical reform will stop a disaster now (imho) Why do you Righties always want the right to pick on minorities while screaming your rights are being removed. What imaginary nonsense are you whining about now? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 20:03:02 GMT
I thought she referred to rough sleepers as opposed to homeless and said rough sleeping was a choice for some. Somewhere that was reported as homeless. They are not the same. Oh please do tell me the difference between a rough sleeper and a homeless person. Most people registered as homeless are not sleeping on the streets. Did you realise that? |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 15, 2023 20:19:20 GMT
I thought she referred to rough sleepers as opposed to homeless and said rough sleeping was a choice for some. Somewhere that was reported as homeless. They are not the same. Oh please do tell me the difference between a rough sleeper and a homeless person. Rough sleepers may not be homeless and homeless people may not be sleeping rough. I would have thought that was obvious but hey ho let us tell some lies as regards Suella. |
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Post by wapentake on Nov 15, 2023 20:37:12 GMT
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 15, 2023 20:43:47 GMT
JOG I am rather ashamed to have to admit that a forebear voted in the 1966 General Election for the Tory candidate Geoffrey Wilson, under the misapprehension that she was voting for Harold Wilson to become Labour Prime Minister.  as a resident in his constituency, i was one of about 50,000 who were actually entitled to vote for the prime minister as Callaghan was the constituency MP for Richmond Road Cardiff. I chose not to, but my hoped for candidate, Lord David Sutch, did not stsnd there, choosing at the last minute to stand against Thatcher. I think i voted on that occasion for a woman (i use the term loosely) known to my mother, who stood on a platform of taking the troops out of Iteland and leaving the thugs to battle each other. It was a while ago now but i think i helped her retain her deposit Without doubt the most excellent result i ever had a hand in was my vote in a council / county council election a year or two later. For the Bring A Bottle party candidate. There was no deposit at stake but i was among those who contributed to their 8% of tbe popular vote that would have saved theirs had it been at risk. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 15, 2023 20:50:20 GMT
I thought she referred to rough sleepers as opposed to homeless and said rough sleeping was a choice for some. Somewhere that was reported as homeless. They are not the same. Oh please do tell me the difference between a rough sleeper and a homeless person. Come to Newport. The council boasted the 10% hike in MY council tax was used to clear the streets of ALL of them. Then eight of those re-housed abandoned their cosy new accommodations and fucked off back to the streets, living in tents adjacent to, and pissing and shitting in the doorway of, the magistrates court. For them it very much IS a lifestyle choice. The bastard council wont refund me the wasted council tax though |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 15, 2023 22:04:55 GMT
The UK population in 1990 was 57 Million - now its 67 million - entirely driven by immigration.
What did people expect?
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Post by zanygame on Nov 15, 2023 23:16:53 GMT
The UK population in 1990 was 57 Million - now its 67 million - entirely driven by immigration. What did people expect? 10 million more homes! |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 15, 2023 23:18:59 GMT
Oh please do tell me the difference between a rough sleeper and a homeless person. Rough sleepers may not be homeless and homeless people may not be sleeping rough. I would have thought that was obvious but hey ho let us tell some lies as regards Suella. Have you any idea how stupid that sounds. People living in tents on the street. |
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