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Post by Orac on Nov 14, 2023 9:02:09 GMT
Basically it looks like Tory party have sidelined almost everyone who supported Brexit. Our MPs NEVER accepted that the will of the people was to leave the EU. But it looks like there's some higher power operating here. Sunak is obviously a puppet and Cameron has been installed as the "adult" to control the party. Braverman had to go because she was saying that if the Supreme Court rejected the Rwanda plan she wanted to leave the ECHR. I'm guessing that tomorrow the court will say we can't send illegals to Rwanda. And Cleverly has already said that he doesn't want to leave the ECHR. So that's the end of any chance of stopping the boats. And no one is going to speak out against all the law breaking on the weekly marches so this'll just continue as anti-semitism is accepted as normal in Britain. I'm just wondering who the puppet master is now. I'm sure the EU is in there somewhere - they still exert a huge amount of influence in our politics despite the fact that they shouldn't. I'd like to see how many of the Establishment are on their payroll. In particular I'm wondering if Nadine Dorries's "Dr No" is someone from the EU. She's said that he's someone who it is "dangerous" to upset - which is why she won't name him. We were more or less trapped from the point we allowed the establishment / public sector to soft-coup Boris. Boris is not a noble cause, but the fact he was elected in a landslide meant that with him gone all further argument about legitimacy went. We should have stuck out on principle and hoped that Boris got a clue and decided to take bloody and spectacular revenge after a (alternate timeline) failed attempt to dethrone him. Democracy is all but meaningless now, we are pretty well in Soviet Union territory. By allowing this to happen and then happen again, we chose devious, un-accountable technocracy over democracy (twice) |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 14, 2023 9:09:21 GMT
Basically it looks like Tory party have sidelined almost everyone who supported Brexit. Our MPs NEVER accepted that the will of the people was to leave the EU. But it looks like there's some higher power operating here. Sunak is obviously a puppet and Cameron has been installed as the "adult" to control the party. Braverman had to go because she was saying that if the Supreme Court rejected the Rwanda plan she wanted to leave the ECHR. I'm guessing that tomorrow the court will say we can't send illegals to Rwanda. And Cleverly has already said that he doesn't want to leave the ECHR. So that's the end of any chance of stopping the boats. And no one is going to speak out against all the law breaking on the weekly marches so this'll just continue as anti-semitism is accepted as normal in Britain. I'm just wondering who the puppet master is now. I'm sure the EU is in there somewhere - they still exert a huge amount of influence in our politics despite the fact that they shouldn't. I'd like to see how many of the Establishment are on their payroll. In particular I'm wondering if Nadine Dorries's "Dr No" is someone from the EU. She's said that he's someone who it is "dangerous" to upset - which is why she won't name him. James Cleverly supported and campaigned for it, he is now Home Secretary. Braverman did something stupid the other week, she suggested taking tents from the homeless. And at the weekend, she offended the BBC and the Met. She was right about the Met, and the BBC, but became a liability in the media. As for Sunak he campaigned for leave and proved a good Chancellor of the Exchequer. But he was part of a government that made rules for others it didn't follow itself. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2023 9:15:13 GMT
Basically it looks like Tory party have sidelined almost everyone who supported Brexit. Our MPs NEVER accepted that the will of the people was to leave the EU. But it looks like there's some higher power operating here. Sunak is obviously a puppet and Cameron has been installed as the "adult" to control the party. Braverman had to go because she was saying that if the Supreme Court rejected the Rwanda plan she wanted to leave the ECHR. I'm guessing that tomorrow the court will say we can't send illegals to Rwanda. And Cleverly has already said that he doesn't want to leave the ECHR. So that's the end of any chance of stopping the boats. And no one is going to speak out against all the law breaking on the weekly marches so this'll just continue as anti-semitism is accepted as normal in Britain. I'm just wondering who the puppet master is now. I'm sure the EU is in there somewhere - they still exert a huge amount of influence in our politics despite the fact that they shouldn't. I'd like to see how many of the Establishment are on their payroll. In particular I'm wondering if Nadine Dorries's "Dr No" is someone from the EU. She's said that he's someone who it is "dangerous" to upset - which is why she won't name him. This is another clear example of how a conspiracy theory is now necessary to make the facts fit the imagined reality of many right wingers. And anyone taking Nadine Dorries seriously needs to give themself a reality check. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2023 9:22:55 GMT
Basically it looks like Tory party have sidelined almost everyone who supported Brexit. Our MPs NEVER accepted that the will of the people was to leave the EU. But it looks like there's some higher power operating here. Sunak is obviously a puppet and Cameron has been installed as the "adult" to control the party. Braverman had to go because she was saying that if the Supreme Court rejected the Rwanda plan she wanted to leave the ECHR. I'm guessing that tomorrow the court will say we can't send illegals to Rwanda. And Cleverly has already said that he doesn't want to leave the ECHR. So that's the end of any chance of stopping the boats. And no one is going to speak out against all the law breaking on the weekly marches so this'll just continue as anti-semitism is accepted as normal in Britain. I'm just wondering who the puppet master is now. I'm sure the EU is in there somewhere - they still exert a huge amount of influence in our politics despite the fact that they shouldn't. I'd like to see how many of the Establishment are on their payroll. In particular I'm wondering if Nadine Dorries's "Dr No" is someone from the EU. She's said that he's someone who it is "dangerous" to upset - which is why she won't name him. We were more or less trapped from the point we allowed the establishment / public sector to soft-coup Boris. Boris is not a noble cause, but the fact he was elected in a landslide meant that with him gone all further argument about legitimacy went. We should have stuck out on principle and hoped that Boris got a clue and decided to take bloody and spectacular revenge after a (alternate timeline) failed attempt to dethrone him. Democracy is all but meaningless now, we are pretty well in Soviet Union territory.By allowing this to happen and then happen again, we chose devious, un-accountable technocracy over democracy (twice) Another typically glaring piece of nonsense from a right winger, believing in shite in their own heads. If we really were in Soviet Union territory, you'd be in a prison, an asylum, a gulag, or a grave for saying that. But you know of course that you are actually free to spout such nonsense without any such negative consequences. And thats because you are of course talking utter shite. When people start likening us to the Soviet Union, we know they have lost touch with reality and are inhabiting an alternate reality that exists only in their own fervid imaginations. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 14, 2023 14:38:28 GMT
No it’s not . It’s just your biased opinion. TBH very few take any notice of what you point out . No that is your biased opinion projected onto me. More projection from you but as this is the mindzone , ❤️ |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 14, 2023 15:10:16 GMT
Basically it looks like Tory party have sidelined almost everyone who supported Brexit. Our MPs NEVER accepted that the will of the people was to leave the EU. But it looks like there's some higher power operating here. Sunak is obviously a puppet and Cameron has been installed as the "adult" to control the party. Braverman had to go because she was saying that if the Supreme Court rejected the Rwanda plan she wanted to leave the ECHR. I'm guessing that tomorrow the court will say we can't send illegals to Rwanda. And Cleverly has already said that he doesn't want to leave the ECHR. So that's the end of any chance of stopping the boats. And no one is going to speak out against all the law breaking on the weekly marches so this'll just continue as anti-semitism is accepted as normal in Britain. I'm just wondering who the puppet master is now. I'm sure the EU is in there somewhere - they still exert a huge amount of influence in our politics despite the fact that they shouldn't. I'd like to see how many of the Establishment are on their payroll. In particular I'm wondering if Nadine Dorries's "Dr No" is someone from the EU. She's said that he's someone who it is "dangerous" to upset - which is why she won't name him. James Cleverly supported and campaigned for it, he is now Home Secretary. Braverman did something stupid the other week, she suggested taking tents from the homeless. And at the weekend, she offended the BBC and the Met. She was right about the Met, and the BBC, but became a liability in the media. As for Sunak he campaigned for leave and proved a good Chancellor of the Exchequer. But he was part of a government that made rules for others it didn't follow itself. I thought she referred to rough sleepers as opposed to homeless and said rough sleeping was a choice for some. Somewhere that was reported as homeless. They are not the same. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 14, 2023 16:16:53 GMT
No that is your biased opinion projected onto me. More projection from you but as this is the mindzone , ❤️ At least my post was honest. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 14, 2023 16:48:24 GMT
More projection from you but as this is the mindzone , ❤️ At least my post was honest. Nope.♥️ |
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Post by Orac on Nov 14, 2023 16:49:48 GMT
We were more or less trapped from the point we allowed the establishment / public sector to soft-coup Boris. Boris is not a noble cause, but the fact he was elected in a landslide meant that with him gone all further argument about legitimacy went. We should have stuck out on principle and hoped that Boris got a clue and decided to take bloody and spectacular revenge after a (alternate timeline) failed attempt to dethrone him. Democracy is all but meaningless now, we are pretty well in Soviet Union territory.By allowing this to happen and then happen again, we chose devious, un-accountable technocracy over democracy (twice) Another typically glaring piece of nonsense from a right winger, believing in shite in their own heads. If we really were in Soviet Union territory, you'd be in a prison, an asylum, a gulag, or a grave for saying that. No. 'Soviet Unions' can develop over time and we are not at the explicit gulag stage yet. However, i believe their have been mumbling in some influential quarters about the necessity for political 're-education'. In a small way this has already started. At the moment, the unaccountable bureaucracy is simply removing all alternatives to its rule. The cattle cars come a bit later. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 14, 2023 17:03:16 GMT
Another typically glaring piece of nonsense from a right winger, believing in shite in their own heads. If we really were in Soviet Union territory, you'd be in a prison, an asylum, a gulag, or a grave for saying that. No. 'Soviet Unions' can develop over time and we are not at the explicit gulag stage yet. However, i believe their have been mumbling in some influential quarters about the necessity for political 're-education'. In a small way this has already started. At the moment, the unaccountable bureaucracy is simply removing all alternatives to its rule. The cattle cars come a bit later. Racial awareness courses. Mandatory staff training. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2023 22:54:12 GMT
Another typically glaring piece of nonsense from a right winger, believing in shite in their own heads. If we really were in Soviet Union territory, you'd be in a prison, an asylum, a gulag, or a grave for saying that. No. 'Soviet Unions' can develop over time and we are not at the explicit gulag stage yet. However, i believe their have been mumbling in some influential quarters about the necessity for political 're-education'. In a small way this has already started. At the moment, the unaccountable bureaucracy is simply removing all alternatives to its rule. The cattle cars come a bit later. I'd rush out to the shops if I were you in case you find yourself without any tin foil. |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 14, 2023 23:29:45 GMT
No. 'Soviet Unions' can develop over time and we are not at the explicit gulag stage yet. However, i believe their have been mumbling in some influential quarters about the necessity for political 're-education'. In a small way this has already started. At the moment, the unaccountable bureaucracy is simply removing all alternatives to its rule. The cattle cars come a bit later. I'd rush out to the shops if I were you in case you find yourself without any tin foil. "The Police are still witch-hunting gender critical women" www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/13/the-police-are-still-witch-hunting-gender-critical-women/Read the article. You can be arrested in Soviet Britain for being factually and biologically correct, but if you do that and manage to offend someone in the process expect law enforcement to police your speech. From little things big things grow; pull your head out your arse! |
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Post by see2 on Nov 15, 2023 6:43:10 GMT
At least my post was honest. Nope.♥️ A stonewalling poster ^^^ ha ha ha, you are so funny. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 15, 2023 7:59:25 GMT
Basically it looks like Tory party have sidelined almost everyone who supported Brexit. Our MPs NEVER accepted that the will of the people was to leave the EU. But it looks like there's some higher power operating here. Sunak is obviously a puppet and Cameron has been installed as the "adult" to control the party. Braverman had to go because she was saying that if the Supreme Court rejected the Rwanda plan she wanted to leave the ECHR. I'm guessing that tomorrow the court will say we can't send illegals to Rwanda. And Cleverly has already said that he doesn't want to leave the ECHR. So that's the end of any chance of stopping the boats. And no one is going to speak out against all the law breaking on the weekly marches so this'll just continue as anti-semitism is accepted as normal in Britain. I'm just wondering who the puppet master is now. I'm sure the EU is in there somewhere - they still exert a huge amount of influence in our politics despite the fact that they shouldn't. I'd like to see how many of the Establishment are on their payroll. In particular I'm wondering if Nadine Dorries's "Dr No" is someone from the EU. She's said that he's someone who it is "dangerous" to upset - which is why she won't name him. James Cleverly supported and campaigned for it, he is now Home Secretary. Braverman did something stupid the other week, she suggested taking tents from the homeless. And at the weekend, she offended the BBC and the Met. She was right about the Met, and the BBC, but became a liability in the media. As for Sunak he campaigned for leave and proved a good Chancellor of the Exchequer. But he was part of a government that made rules for others it didn't follow itself. I think here remarks about tents being a life style were referring to LA and San Francisco. Still she should have known that no one takes any notice of context when choose to attack you. However I don't think Braverman had become a liability among people who want to hear their politicians telling the truth. There is a problem here in that Braverman was the only one who has pointed out that these hate marches can NOT go on indefinitely - the police have said they're not sustainable because of the cost of policing them. So at some point our politicians are going to have to grasp the nettle. As for Sunak being a good chancellor you must be joking. He wasted over £400 billion on supporting lockdowns and furlough - and the £%0 billion on the ludicrous bounce back loans that were mainly given to fraudsters. And this was all because he was building up his popularity for the "Ready for Rishi" campaign that he spent most of his time on. He is the architect of a lot of our current cash problems. And the people who actually DID campaign for Brexit say that Sunak NEVER did any campaigning at all. He's NOT an honest politician. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 15, 2023 8:07:28 GMT
Basically it looks like Tory party have sidelined almost everyone who supported Brexit. Our MPs NEVER accepted that the will of the people was to leave the EU. But it looks like there's some higher power operating here. Sunak is obviously a puppet and Cameron has been installed as the "adult" to control the party. Braverman had to go because she was saying that if the Supreme Court rejected the Rwanda plan she wanted to leave the ECHR. I'm guessing that tomorrow the court will say we can't send illegals to Rwanda. And Cleverly has already said that he doesn't want to leave the ECHR. So that's the end of any chance of stopping the boats. And no one is going to speak out against all the law breaking on the weekly marches so this'll just continue as anti-semitism is accepted as normal in Britain. I'm just wondering who the puppet master is now. I'm sure the EU is in there somewhere - they still exert a huge amount of influence in our politics despite the fact that they shouldn't. I'd like to see how many of the Establishment are on their payroll. In particular I'm wondering if Nadine Dorries's "Dr No" is someone from the EU. She's said that he's someone who it is "dangerous" to upset - which is why she won't name him. This is another clear example of how a conspiracy theory is now necessary to make the facts fit the imagined reality of many right wingers. And anyone taking Nadine Dorries seriously needs to give themself a reality check. And why is that? Because she grew up on a council estate and didn't go to Oxbridge and Eton? I've read the serialisation of her book and what she says does make a lot of sense of what's been going on for the last few years. And ALL of what she said has been corroborated by the various people who were caught up in the games played by Cummings, Gove and Smith. IDS himself has corroborated what he said on TV. It's actually quite brave of Dorries to say reveal all this stuff because she's making a lot of very powerful enemies. |
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