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Post by buccaneer on Nov 14, 2023 22:45:09 GMT
That's already been posted. ^^ Do keep up.
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Post by see2 on Nov 14, 2023 23:14:17 GMT
We tried right wing popularism and it failed dreadfully. 5 PMs and 7 Home secretaries since shooting ourselves in the foot in 2016. Going back to the centre will be a relief.we have had the centre for last 13 years monte - name one thing thing that the Tories have done that would be a conservative policy? New Labour would have found your remark hilarious. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 14, 2023 23:17:49 GMT
So why was Blix and the UN inspectors still looking for them in March 2003? Because they hadn’t found them ffs. Things that aren’t there are very hard to find 🙄 Because the Inspectors were not allowed to do their job. How long does it take for that to sink in? |
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Post by see2 on Nov 14, 2023 23:23:11 GMT
The Army asked Blair for "unequivocal legal authority," It was given by the UK Attorney General, who in early March 2003 asked Blix if Saddam was in compliance with UN Res. 1441. Blix replied "no", that was the final piece of information that led the Attorney General to rule invasion would be legal. He didn't have the support from the security council. He had less than half of the support he required. He misled parliament and went ahead using false information, which even Colin Powell later admitted to.
Blair didn't have proper unequivocal legal authority and relied on terror to get his own way, which led to him accumulating a lot of wealth in the middle east.
I thought you might be interested in this "UN Res. 1483 22 May 2003. Vote 14-0-0. Recognized the US and the UK as occupying powers under international law, with legitimate authority in Iraq. Removed economic sanctions imposed during the Gulf War. Syria did not vote on the measure. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 15, 2023 0:31:45 GMT
We tried right wing popularism and it failed dreadfully. 5 PMs and 7 Home secretaries since shooting ourselves in the foot in 2016. Going back to the centre will be a relief.we have had the centre for last 13 years monte - name one thing thing that the Tories have done that would be a conservative policy? Austerity. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 15, 2023 0:53:01 GMT
we have had the centre for last 13 years monte - name one thing thing that the Tories have done that would be a conservative policy? Austerity. The alternative being defaulting which would have affected the poor a damned sight more than anyone else. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 15, 2023 1:00:15 GMT
The alternative being defaulting which would have affected the poor a damned sight more than anyone else. Non the less it is a conservative policy. Labour usually argue for a policy of spending their way out of a recession. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 15, 2023 1:18:39 GMT
The alternative being defaulting which would have affected the poor a damned sight more than anyone else. Non the less it is a conservative policy. Labour usually argue for a policy of spending their way out of a recession. Indeed they do. Regardless of inflation, borrowing more and more is the socialist way. Remind me, how many Labour councils have declared bankruptcy? |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 15, 2023 1:29:59 GMT
Non the less it is a conservative policy. Labour usually argue for a policy of spending their way out of a recession. Indeed they do. Regardless of inflation, borrowing more and more is the socialist way. Remind me, how many Labour councils have declared bankruptcy? Anything that reduces consumption is OK by me. |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 15, 2023 5:20:28 GMT
we have had the centre for last 13 years monte - name one thing thing that the Tories have done that would be a conservative policy? Austerity. But you don't mind it when the EU Commision impose austerity. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 15, 2023 6:51:09 GMT
The alternative being defaulting which would have affected the poor a damned sight more than anyone else. Non the less it is a conservative policy. Labour usually argue for a policy of spending their way out of a recession. At the G20 2010, Brown and Obama called for austerity and growth side by side. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 15, 2023 6:58:59 GMT
But you don't mind it when the EU Commision impose austerity. IIRC the EU began austerity and growth in 2012. The Commission cannot impose anything, they can only back up decisions that have gone through the system and have been accepted. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 15, 2023 7:04:43 GMT
Non the less it is a conservative policy. Labour usually argue for a policy of spending their way out of a recession. Indeed they do. Regardless of inflation, borrowing more and more is the socialist way. Remind me, how many Labour councils have declared bankruptcy? Perhaps you can remind readers on the forum. And remind people that Labour usually run the low paid and often high unemployed areas of the country. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 15, 2023 7:25:48 GMT
Indeed they do. Regardless of inflation, borrowing more and more is the socialist way. Remind me, how many Labour councils have declared bankruptcy? Perhaps you can remind readers on the forum. And remind people that Labour usually run the low paid and often high unemployed areas of the country. Run them even further into the ground. Labour are no friends of the working class or the poor. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 15, 2023 7:38:52 GMT
we have had the centre for last 13 years monte - name one thing thing that the Tories have done that would be a conservative policy? Austerity. The 2010 manifestos from both main Parties were promising similar levels of spending reductions. In the event we know there no actual significant spending cuts. |
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