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Post by sheepy on Nov 13, 2023 12:46:40 GMT
Cameron and Blair a comedy gold double act  Now I know the country is stuffed They are putting themselves up as doing something about it, I fear for the sanity of what is left of the Palestinians. |
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Post by om15 on Nov 13, 2023 13:00:37 GMT
I have just looked at a live Daily Express poll, 82% of readers do not support the return of Cameron, it seems that Ricky manages to get every single thing wrong, I do hope Graham Brady gets a full postbag pretty quickly.
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Post by om15 on Nov 13, 2023 13:23:40 GMT
Mr Cameron writes in the Daily Telegraph today,
Bit rich coming from the person who created mayhem and walked away without even trying to sort it out, I remember immediately after the NO vote he was reported as saying "why should I do the hard shit", some leader he is, we now have a Prime Minister, a Chancellor and a Foreign Secretary that share the same status as never having been elected by anybody to their positions.
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 13, 2023 13:26:35 GMT
I have just looked at a live Daily Express poll, 82% of readers do not support the return of Cameron, it seems that Ricky manages to get every single thing wrong, I do hope Graham Brady gets a full postbag pretty quickly. He's out to destroy the Tory party, this is revenge for Brexit, and just to wind us all up he's brought back Cameron, who ran off when he fucked up, and left us without a leader, the shithouse rat. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 13, 2023 14:23:51 GMT
He’s going to team up with Blair solve all the problems in the Middle East (like hell they will) and when it all goes tits up they are going to run away together and create the Camblair institute for global cock ups.lol Introducing Blair is pure biased nonsense on your part. Proving just how easily led you are by the propaganda against him. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 13, 2023 14:27:09 GMT
He’s going to team up with Blair solve all the problems in the Middle East (like hell they will) and when it all goes tits up they are going to run away together and create the Camblair institute for global cock ups.lol lol Laughing at politically biased nonsense is for the more immature amongst us. |
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Post by ratcliff on Nov 13, 2023 14:33:55 GMT
He'll probably make a good foreign secretary, however, he's not elected. I really hate appointing members of the Lords to Cabinet jobs. They've hundreds of MPs to choose from. This is lazy. Or desperate ego massaging Mandy was made a Lord for the same reason |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 13, 2023 14:50:40 GMT
It is indeed extraordinary reflecting the utter chaos this shambolic Government has been in. It seems they have run out of vaguely competent ministers and are having to go round again.... Being objective however, much as I want to laugh at the Tories, this might actually make some sense for them. Cameron, while a dinosaur, is experienced and credible. They don't intend foreign policy to be high profile between now and the election and I suspect the aim here is to park a vaguely credible figure in post to deal with anything that comes up while focusing elsewhere. Cleverley, while I don't agree with his politics, does appear to me to be competent and more interested in resolving problems than in gaining tabloid headlines. He has a very difficult job sorting out the utter shambles the incompetent Braverman has left but if he does I suspect he will become the obvious choice for next Tory leader. Whether the Tory civil war can be held in check for a year until an election next October seems very doubtful, however. I wonder if this is the first step in a move to an early election. I see it as Sunak setting the battle lines for the upcoming civil war within the party. He is dragging the cabinet back to the centre where it is more electable and discarding those on the right wing. Whatever you think of Cameron he knows how to win an election. He did it twice and compared to the shower we've had since he stepped down he's seen as a grown up. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 13, 2023 14:55:46 GMT
It is indeed extraordinary reflecting the utter chaos this shambolic Government has been in. It seems they have run out of vaguely competent ministers and are having to go round again.... Being objective however, much as I want to laugh at the Tories, this might actually make some sense for them. Cameron, while a dinosaur, is experienced and credible. They don't intend foreign policy to be high profile between now and the election and I suspect the aim here is to park a vaguely credible figure in post to deal with anything that comes up while focusing elsewhere. Cleverley, while I don't agree with his politics, does appear to me to be competent and more interested in resolving problems than in gaining tabloid headlines. He has a very difficult job sorting out the utter shambles the incompetent Braverman has left but if he does I suspect he will become the obvious choice for next Tory leader. Whether the Tory civil war can be held in check for a year until an election next October seems very doubtful, however. I wonder if this is the first step in a move to an early election. I see it as Sunak setting the battle lines for the upcoming civil war within the party. He is dragging the cabinet back to the centre where it is more electable and discarding those on the right wing. Whatever you think of Cameron he knows how to win an election. He did it twice and compared to the shower we've had since he stepped down he's seen as a grown up. Ah the old ‘ grown up’ rhetorical device again. Grown ups do not walk away from the damage of their own hubris . Cameron called the EU referendum because he thought the leavers would lose. When they won Cameron run away . |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 14:58:05 GMT
It is indeed extraordinary reflecting the utter chaos this shambolic Government has been in. It seems they have run out of vaguely competent ministers and are having to go round again.... Being objective however, much as I want to laugh at the Tories, this might actually make some sense for them. Cameron, while a dinosaur, is experienced and credible. They don't intend foreign policy to be high profile between now and the election and I suspect the aim here is to park a vaguely credible figure in post to deal with anything that comes up while focusing elsewhere. Cleverley, while I don't agree with his politics, does appear to me to be competent and more interested in resolving problems than in gaining tabloid headlines. He has a very difficult job sorting out the utter shambles the incompetent Braverman has left but if he does I suspect he will become the obvious choice for next Tory leader. Whether the Tory civil war can be held in check for a year until an election next October seems very doubtful, however. I wonder if this is the first step in a move to an early election. I see it as Sunak setting the battle lines for the upcoming civil war within the party. He is dragging the cabinet back to the centre where it is more electable and discarding those on the right wing. Whatever you think of Cameron he knows how to win an election. He did it twice and compared to the shower we've had since he stepped down he's seen as a grown up. Hilarious, he defeated Brown and Miliband, which even I could do, and lost the referendum. Imagine wanting two identical parties and calling that a democratic choice. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 15:05:33 GMT
Cameron ran from Downing St when he chickened out from doing any real work after the referendum. Then many let the cat out of the bag that he was more show than effort while at No10. He was certainly proved to be fairly spinless both in Brussels and here. Is there any evidence that this man has learned his lesson that chillaxing and Government don't mix, or are Foreign Affairs simply going to be put on a back burner while we fund his pointless trips around the world for the next year to watch him glad-handing his future earning potential?
He is inclined to China as is the Chancellor I guess we can write this Government off.
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 13, 2023 15:15:00 GMT
Whatever you think of Cameron he knows how to win an election. He did it twice and compared to the shower we've had since he stepped down he's seen as a grown up. Technically he only won in 2015. ;-) |
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Post by patman post on Nov 13, 2023 15:20:24 GMT
Good news — at last the possibility of some sanity and cohesive competence being brought back into the Conservative administration!!!
Hopefully, Cameron's return is the start of a real campaign to get the Conservatives back to being an electable party. But a few more figures need to be neutralised, and their influence spiked.
Unfortunately, those Tory MPs who look like they'd be more at home in Reclaim, Reform, or Ukip, are unlikely to jump ship before the election, because they realise such actions would lessen even more their chances of being returned to parliament...
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 13, 2023 15:45:15 GMT
Have they made Sir John Major Brexit minister yet?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 13, 2023 15:53:01 GMT
Hilarious, he defeated Brown and Miliband, which even I could do, and lost the referendum. Imagine wanting two identical parties and calling that a democratic choice. Yep, we now have a choice of Labour or Labour. Marvellous. Shame that PR will never happen - it's the only way to break the deadlock. |
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