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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 15, 2023 10:47:44 GMT
If Farage wanted to play dirty guts, and only campaigned in Labour constituencies, Labour would be wiped out.
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 15, 2023 11:12:04 GMT
If Farage wanted to play dirty guts, and only campaigned in Labour constituencies, Labour would be wiped out. Farage is too busy jungling. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 15, 2023 11:14:26 GMT
If Farage wanted to play dirty guts, and only campaigned in Labour constituencies, Labour would be wiped out. Farage is too busy jungling. Unlike some he can multi task. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 15, 2023 11:16:36 GMT
Farage is too busy jungling. Unlike some he can multi task. I get the feeling that fat pay check might well be his undoing. He isn't in the world of politics in that jungle. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 15, 2023 11:17:47 GMT
If Farage wanted to play dirty guts, and only campaigned in Labour constituencies, Labour would be wiped out. Farage is too busy jungling. I think he's playing a blinder, the lefties have portrayed him as that nasty 'racist', and its stuck.
When in fact he's not in the least bit racists, he was saying then what everyone is saying now ........ Stop illegal migrants.
He'll be stuck in a jungle with a load of lefty dumb thick arse luvvies, who haven't got the foggiest idea about politics, they just spout out the usual crap... Farage is racist.
I've got this sneaky suspicion Farage will come out of the jungle smelling of Roses.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 15, 2023 11:24:19 GMT
Farage is too busy jungling. I think he's playing a blinder, the lefties have portrayed him as that nasty 'racist', and its stuck.
When in fact he's not in the least bit racists, he was saying then what everyone is saying now ........ Stop illegal migrants.
He'll be stuck in a jungle with a load of lefty dumb thick arse luvvies, who haven't got the foggiest idea about politics, they just spout out the usual crap... Farage is racist.
I've got this sneaky suspicion Farage will come out of the jungle smelling of Roses.
I would take another guess viewing figures will be very good. |
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Post by Hutchyns on Nov 15, 2023 11:37:31 GMT
andrewbrown
As Peter Hitchens has been advocating for the last decade or two, the British voting public must abandon the Conservative Party completely if they ever wish a proper right of centre Political Party to emerge for them to vote for. If an actual Left Wing Government might be the price we have to pay short term, then maybe that's the short sharp shock we need, in that there is a huge proportion of the electorate that haven't witnessed what a Left Wing Government actually gives you in reality .... they're aware of the theory and quite like the sound of it, but can only be cured by experiencing the harsh reality ...... a lesson that I fear has to be learned the hard way or not at all.
Even if the Tories could be cleared off the scene, is a Left Wing Government a likelihood ? ...... under Jezza's leadership you could probably truthfully have answered 'yes' for Labour. While a Starmer regime might well prove frighteningly authoritarian as far as diminishing our civil liberties goes, will traditional left wing economics and wholesale nationalisations materialize ? .... I doubt it. And our Foreign Policy will continue to be typed out and handed to us by the USA, just as it is at present, so no change there.
The current Tory Party has reached such a state of rottenness it must not be revived again. Kill it off properly and have something much better and worthwhile as its replacement.
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Post by om15 on Nov 15, 2023 11:38:21 GMT
When we see unelected Judges preventing laws made legally by elected Members of Parliament, when we see open anti semitism on the streets, when we see the education, judiciary, police, civil service and oddly increasingly industry being taken over by the left woke brigade, I don't really think it matters who we vote for, we will end up having no say anyway.
Once the Tories are rejected and Labour takes over they will very swiftly put in place steps to ensure they can't be dislodged, they will ramp up immigration, give school children the vote and destroy any shreds of small businesses that might be left.
If by any chance there are any school leavers capable of thought left, they will swiftly emigrate and get out of it, Labour will quickly get through our savings by sky high taxes and rampant inflation to pay for union demanded pay rises.
I wonder when it will dawn on those who rejoice at the prospect of a Labour victory just what they have brought upon themselves, I doubt many of them remember the 1970s, I do and it wasn't very good, but if they get in again I can't see even someone like Thatcher being able to sort it out.
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Post by see2 on Nov 15, 2023 13:56:29 GMT
I don’t follow your logic, please can you explain? Are you thinking that Reform will win the election? Well it seems they are picking up the disalutioned Tory voters more than labour are. So the denser side of the not so bright party are moving to the right, that's OK just as long as they stay divided. That's called getting ones own back. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 13:59:10 GMT
Never seen a poll like this one
As someone who takes a keen interest in Opinion Polling, in particular the trends, rather than any one particular poll, I was quite shocked to see this particular one published only last night ......
LAB: 49%
CON: 19%
REF: 11%
LDEM: 9%
GRN: 7%
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@peoplepolling
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I dont think I have ever seen any major polling organisation show a thirty point lead in a Westminster voting intention poll, not even in the run-up to the 1997 general election. Of course this could be an "outliner" with possible calculating or methodology errors, but still.
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Post by see2 on Nov 15, 2023 14:00:44 GMT
In which case how did you come to the conclusion : "And labour will be next to be wiped out if Reform wins the day." Because Reform will be a true representative of right-wing, Conservative and Libertarian values, and Labour will just be a Woke lunatic asylum made up of people who groom the young?
I still believe this is a mostly Conservative country, which is currently lacking political representation outside of a few hand waving gestures around election time.
We have already experienced 11 years of "Conservative and Libertarian values" under Thatcher and just look at the mess she made of the economy and her so called social justice. |
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Post by om15 on Nov 15, 2023 15:41:37 GMT
You should have been around before she arrived if you wanted to see what a mess the economy was, we were labelled "the sick man of Europe" due to workshy union workers, insipid management and craven Labour politicians.
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Post by om15 on Nov 15, 2023 15:44:22 GMT
Sid, what is interesting is that reform are only 8 points behind the Tories, I suspect that Reform are going to give us an outstanding Labour victory, it is very difficult to see how the current problems are going to get resolved.
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Post by see2 on Nov 15, 2023 20:59:06 GMT
You should have been around before she arrived if you wanted to see what a mess the economy was, we were labelled "the sick man of Europe" due to workshy union workers, insipid management and craven Labour politicians. I was around then, and I heard Thatcher's LIES about the Unions and nationalisation being to blame for the countries problems. This country's economy never recovered from the "largest trading deficit ever recorded" (to that date), that was inherited by Labour in 1964. In fact the economy never perked up until North Sea Oil began to come ashore in the late 1970s. Thatcher ended up selling off our oil along with the rest of the family silver. In the second half of the 1970s the TUC agreed with the government to hold pay claims at 5%. It was pissed off workers that refused to take the 5% limit starting with the lowest paid workers protesting. France and Germany were ploughing ahead with Nationalised High Speed Railways While British Rail was being seriously underfunded. It seems that you fell for the propaganda, while missing the reality. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 15, 2023 21:03:58 GMT
Indeed. It’s probably going to be the Monster Raving Labour Party. I wonder how many Hamas Labour MPs they will have left by then. i would expect not many while their leader is a self confessed zionist and a Friend Of Israel… |
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