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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 12, 2023 12:24:56 GMT
Not sure maths is that posters strongpoint, Andrew. Actually anyway the premise behind this reported phenomenon is very questionable. The last election outcome and the average of recent polls (which have been remarkably static for a while) are Tory. 44%. 26% -18% Labour 32% 46% +14% Lib 12% 11% -1% Green 3% 6% +3% Reform 2% 6%+ 4% Other 7% 5% -2% The Tories have (according to polls) lost 18% with Reform gaining 4%. The other 14% have gone elsewhere. Polls schmolls. There's only one that matters. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 12, 2023 13:27:02 GMT
I agree that's true, but how do you think it's going to affect the outcome of the election? I don't know. I only have the media to go by. In which case how did you come to the conclusion : "And labour will be next to be wiped out if Reform wins the day." |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2023 13:32:54 GMT
I don't know. I only have the media to go by. In which case how did you come to the conclusion : "And labour will be next to be wiped out if Reform wins the day." Because Reform will be a true representative of right-wing, Conservative and Libertarian values, and Labour will just be a Woke lunatic asylum made up of people who groom the young?
I still believe this is a mostly Conservative country, which is currently lacking political representation outside of a few hand waving gestures around election time.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2023 14:10:44 GMT
Reform UK have about as much chance of forming the next government as the Monster Raving Loony Party, its not even worth debating. There is only one possible contender as an alternative to the chaos of the Tory government, and most voters know it. Indeed. It’s probably going to be the Monster Raving Labour Party. They couldn't do any worse than this shower of shit or labour. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 12, 2023 14:14:25 GMT
I don't know. I only have the media to go by. "And labour will be next to be wiped out if Reform wins the day." Labour are a waste of space and the majority of this country know that. Look at the fucking mess they left in their wake the last time they infested No 10. There are still a great many in the UK that can remember PFI and FOM. Why would any sane person vote for that? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 12, 2023 18:47:38 GMT
I know you don't like Labour, but that really wasn't the question I was asking.
What do you mean by :
A) Reform winning the day and
B) Labour being wiped out.
Are you referring to the election after next?
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Post by sheepy on Nov 12, 2023 18:56:43 GMT
Who in their right mind would support a bunch of arseholes who can call one side violent terrorists and another who are committing out and out atrocities defending themselves. You might be next in line.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2023 19:32:27 GMT
I don't think reform have a cat's chance in hell of being elected. Come the general election the plebs generally return to base and vote for the Con/Lib/Lab lot.
I'm not voting for the Lab/Lib/Con. I can feel another spoiled ballot paper coming on. They read those spoiled papers and will get the message and do nothing because they think they are safe.
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Post by walterpaisley on Nov 12, 2023 22:54:31 GMT
They read those spoiled papers and will get the message and do nothing because they think they are safe. By "they", I assume you're referring to the bank tellers and low-level council workers picking up a bit of overtime at the count? That'll stick it to the Man.. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2023 22:59:20 GMT
I don't think reform have a cat's chance in hell of being elected. Come the general election the plebs generally return to base and vote for the Con/Lib/Lab lot. I'm not voting for the Lab/Lib/Con. I can feel another spoiled ballot paper coming on. They read those spoiled papers and will get the message and do nothing because they think they are safe. Why not just tick Reform if the option is available? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 4:58:21 GMT
Why would Labour want Tory voters that desert their normal voting habit and decide Reform are the way to go?  |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 15, 2023 6:20:16 GMT
Reform UK sees staggering rise to double-digits in polls as Tice accuses Sunak of lying to Britons
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 15, 2023 8:08:13 GMT
Like I said earlier though the aim of Richard Tice is to destroy the Tories. The outcome of this though would be a left wing government of whatever description.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 15, 2023 10:44:39 GMT
Like I said earlier though the aim of Richard Tice is to destroy the Tories. The outcome of this though would be a left wing government of whatever description. They are alll left wing apart from reform.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 15, 2023 10:46:58 GMT
Like I said earlier though the aim of Richard Tice is to destroy the Tories. The outcome of this though would be a left wing government of whatever description. I think they are trying to tempt a few MP's across, if it was anything like the last effort it will end in a disaster for them who do. |
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